20.5.6 Release Notes (Roamio)

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by TiVoMargret, Nov 30, 2015.

  1. moonscape

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    I got RC21 and am having an annoying issue. I keep the Video Window off, but since RC21 sometimes get audio for it even though it is turned off and not displaying video.

    If I go into settings (don't have to go deeper than that), and then back to Tivo Central, the audio is blessedly gone.

    Major annoying!
     
  2. mrizzo80

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    Hitting Pause may be a quicker workaround.
     
  3. Cozmo85

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    Are the netflix restart issues fixed yet?

    I cant exit netflix without the romio ota rebooting.
     
  4. billp30

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    My Roamio + reboots when I switch to my Roku 3 box. This started after I got the RC21 update the second time. All HDMI connnections run thru Anthem D2v to TV
     
  5. Feb 2, 2016 #625 of 663
    JoeKustra

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    Add TNT to the list of wrong network logos. Check zap2it.
     
  6. Feb 2, 2016 #626 of 663
    KillerBeagle

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    I had RC14 previously on my Roamio OTA with no real issues. I got the update message last week and now I'm on RC21. RC21 introduced a whole new very bad behavior that took me a while to isolate.

    I have both the HDMI and composite outputs on the OTA connected. The HDMI feeds a TV in the same room. The composite output feeds an RF modulator and distributes it to several other rooms. What I have found is that when the composite output is in use, but the HDMI-connected TV is off, the Roamio slows to speeds between extremely annoying and totally unusable.

    In this case (HDMI unused, but composite in use), there are any number of symptoms:
    • the audio tone indicating a remote command happens almost immediately, but the response onscreen takes up to 5 seconds
    • "screen painting" is so slow that you can actually watch the different components being displayed over a duration of 5-15 seconds
    • for example, clicking select on "my shows" from Tivo Central, it takes 10-15 seconds to bring up the list of shows
    • Trying to watch Netflix last night, each painful screen update at 5+ seconds, after finally selecting "play" on a show, the audio started playing, but the video did not change, and finally went and stayed blank

    As soon as I turn the HDMI-connected TV back on, the OTA responds normally.

    Does anyone know of a good workaround? I suppose I could add a powered HDMI splitter to make the OTA believe the TV is on all the time, but that seems excessive.

    Is this something I need to contact Tivo support about?
     
  7. Feb 2, 2016 #627 of 663
    MikeBear

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    Check your tv set for an HDMI-CEC setting, and try turning it OFF for now, to see what happens. You don't say the brand name of your tv set, so I can't tell you what it's called on your tv. Might be something like "anynet" "aquoslink" "Simplink", etc
     
  8. Feb 2, 2016 #628 of 663
    Johncv

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    Not how it was done, unlike Netflix, Amazon is design for purchases of single episodes. That why it take you to the episode page for you to initiate the playback.
     
  9. Feb 3, 2016 #629 of 663
    Schmye Bubbula

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    Once in a while my Roamio loses its place when exiting playback before completion, and the next time I play, it starts at the beginning. I haven't picked-up on a pattern to it; seems random. But it's done that before 20.5.6, ever since I bought it Jan 23, 2014.
     
  10. Feb 3, 2016 #630 of 663
    samccfl99

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    It usually will keep the Resume Point IF you get out with the Live Button. If you are 5-7 minutes before the end it will always be back at Play. It has always been like this and have complained about it for 3 years, but to no avail. Try it, you'll like it...:D
     
  11. Feb 3, 2016 #631 of 663
    Schmye Bubbula

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    ^ Yes, I'm aware of the reset-to-beginning behavior with 5-7 minutes remaining, but it happens to me anywhere before that.... And you say, "usually"—are you confirming my finding for before 5-7 minutes remaining?... And are you saying that it remembers its place better getting out with the Live TV button than with the Back, Left Arrow, and TiVo home buttons? If so, is that authoritatively known?
     
  12. Feb 3, 2016 #632 of 663
    KillerBeagle

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    I got a reply back from Tivo support: "Unfortunately the TiVo Roamio OTA is not made to be split into many rooms and can cause issues. Because we this is not tested or supported we are not able to troubleshoot this issue."

    So, basically it appears that this may have been a deliberate "fix" to sell more Minis.
     
  13. Feb 3, 2016 #633 of 663
    Jed1

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    I found out that the RCN MSO TiVos also received the new update at the same time us retail owners did. This is something that TiVo never done before as the MSO units were always one update behind.
    The rollout started in early December for the MSO units.

    One T6 user reports he got Quickmode but there is no mention of SkipMode.
    The TiVo Q users also report the units switching to SD menus after the update was applied.

    The MSO units are now getting RC21.
    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r30454434-TiVo-Winter-2015-TiVo-Update
     
  14. Feb 3, 2016 #634 of 663
    hytekjosh

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    Deliberate? Sorry but what cable operator or box manufacturer supports that?
     
  15. Feb 3, 2016 #635 of 663
    KillerBeagle

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    Note I did say "may have been deliberate" - but any time a widely-used feature gets disabled, it makes me suspicious. You can find in many places on this forum that both HDMI and composite outputs work simultaneously - in fact it's one of the reasons I switched to a Roamio - but the last firmware change has severely restricted that. It does me no good to have composite work correctly only when the HDMI port is connected to a "live" TV.
     
  16. Feb 3, 2016 #636 of 663
    tampa8

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    DISH Network specifically supports that. They have simultaneous active HDMI and Component (or composite) and installers will install two TV's if you wish from the one receiver. (Both must watch the same channel of course)
    They also have a receiver with two tuner outputs that can feed multiple TV's.
     
  17. Feb 3, 2016 #637 of 663
    mattack

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    How are you exiting playback? That matters... (Though I admit I can't think of exactly the situation at the moment.)

    e.g. Tivo, LEFT, live TV (someone else mentioned this), etc...?

    It won't go back to the _beginning_, but if something else brings you to the menus (an ad, using the guide then "One Pass and other options..", etc..), going back will NOT be at the right place..

    Also, if you watched the show _from the live buffer_, while it was recording, your place will NOT be saved. This is the one that I seem to run into most often.. e.g. hit live TV, bring up the menu to switch to another tuner.. (in the relatively rare case where I happen to want to watch something that's recording now).. and watch.. then go back to the menus.. Start playing again, and it's at the beginning.
     
  18. Feb 4, 2016 #638 of 663
    mattack

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    OK, it sure is (very MINORLY) irritating for Skip Mode to not happen on some shows, especially when the same show did a week earlier.
     
  19. Feb 5, 2016 #639 of 663
    samccfl99

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    What exactly does the phrase above in bold mean??? As I thought you said, if you are recording something AND are playing the recording (not the live buffer), getting out with the LIVE button WILL save the resume point. A long time ago it took me a while to figure it out. I was a systems analyst for many years and know how to test fairly well. As far as "authoritatively known", if you mean Tivo will say that...HA! But actually they have. I reported it in 2012, 2013...and they said that was the behavior and that's that. AS EXPECTED...:rolleyes:. Have you tried it yet? It works!
     
  20. Feb 5, 2016 #640 of 663
    keenanSR

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    Like Suits for example? There was also a show on Syfy about a week ago that was missing SkipMode, I think it was Syfy anyway.
     

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