20.4.6 Release Notes

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by TiVoMargret, Jan 28, 2015.

  1. Feb 19, 2015 #961 of 1154
    CG_Allred

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    Instead of "somewhat more cumbersome" try "an exercise in nightly frustration". I've seen other folks on this thread express surprise at those of us who watch shows in broadcast order, labelling it an "archaic" way of watching TV. But it is still a valid way of doing things, even with up to 154 hours of HD programming (as my Roamio Plus is reporting).

    When my wife gets back from her business trip and I have to explain to her why the way we've been watching TV for years is no longer going to work I'm going to get the "technology problems are somehow your fault" look, I just know it. :(
     
  2. Feb 19, 2015 #962 of 1154
    dianebrat

    dianebrat wait.. I did what? TCF Club

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    I think you're misinterpreting, they're not saying that watching episodes in broadcast order is "archaic" it was in response to saying they watch multiple series in order of recording like "Mondays shows first, Tuesdays shows second, Wednesdays shows third, etc. I also find that a bit different,

    I watch my favorites first and then the shows lower in the pecking order. I do watch shows that I follow recaps online closer to recording dates so I can participate in social discussions about them.
     
  3. Feb 19, 2015 #963 of 1154
    RoyK

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    I watch in order of how the mood strikes also but one in my family belongs to the Monday then Tuesday club. The day before yesterday she was perfectly happy. Now quite frustrated.
     
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    JoeKustra

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    This may sound stupid, but I watch them in network order. That doesn't apply to a season of saved episodes, but I find that network shows usually fit a mold that their shows fall into and that let's my mind get used to them. CBS is usually serious, ABC not so much. BTW, I record prime time during the week and watch the recordings on weekends. And it's just me doing the watching so I only have make myself happy. Call me a slightly "insane" binge watcher. But in my defense I don't use Netflix or Amazon.
     
  5. Feb 19, 2015 #965 of 1154
    slowbiscuit

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    And we see one at least monthly, for the so-called 'monthly' tests. More importantly, they completely trash the recording when it happens. And that's not even counting the regular Amber alerts.
     
  6. Feb 19, 2015 #966 of 1154
    gregbennett

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    Add me to the group that misses being able to ungroup shows. I basically record everything and then transfer a lot of it off the TiVo for later editing and watching. After I transfer the shows I turn groups off and go down the My Shows list and hit delete in a matter of seconds. Now I have to go into each shows folder to delete them.

    Luckily my Premiere has not been updated yet so I can still get the Roamio's ungrouped list there.
     
  7. Feb 19, 2015 #967 of 1154
    L David Matheny

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    Interestingly, when I view my Premiere's My Shows list from within my Roamio's My Shows list, I can still ungroup those shows, but the setting doesn't seem to stick, since backing out to the Roamio's shows and then reentering turns grouping back on. And I assume this ungrouping ability will go away when the Premiere finally receives the 20.4.6 update.

    It almost looks like TiVo just arbitrarily disabled the deselection of grouping. I don't know what would happen if groups were enabled together with streaming options, but I'm guessing that the Roamio wouldn't catch fire or anything. As others have suggested, I wish TiVo could allow the "C" button to ungroup shows and simply not display streaming items in that view. It sounds pretty simple anyway.
     
  8. Feb 19, 2015 #968 of 1154
    GmanTiVo

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    After reading this whole thread I do not wish to upgrade to 20.4.6 at the present time.

    I have a simple question: can I block the update / upgrade?

    Gman
     
  9. Feb 19, 2015 #969 of 1154
    RoyK

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    I'm with you. I have it and would go back in a heartbeat were it possible. Unfortunately the answer is no
     
  10. Feb 19, 2015 #970 of 1154
    JoeKustra

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    I wish too. I see a slowdown on the Mini when the Roamio is in standby due to power saver. It is probably just the standby, but I won't be using it anymore.
     
  11. Feb 19, 2015 #971 of 1154
    dianebrat

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    It stumps me to even think someone would do that, but then that's why there's chocolate and vanilla, I LOVE.. LOVE the fact that I can watch higher value items like Peggy Carter same day sans commercials, then get to Castle later in the week, it'd never make sense to me to watch Castle first just because it was broadcast a day earlier.

    Wasn't "TV your way" a onetime Tivo tag line?
     
  12. Feb 19, 2015 #972 of 1154
    RoyK

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    Yep where I'd go straight for Castle and Agent Carter would have a couple of thumbs down.

    Seems to me that they did. Or maybe it was Burger King with something similar. :D
     
  13. Feb 19, 2015 #973 of 1154
    wmcbrine

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    Standby has never been worthless, and is less so now than ever. Here's another benefit, with 20.4.6: Reduced noise level. My Roamio is in my bedroom, so I value this.

    What I don't get is why the new Power Savings Settings screen says you can enter Standby manually by going to "Settings & Messages > Settings > DVR & Accessories > Power Saving Settings" -- which isn't even right -- when really it's just "Settings & Messages > Standby". (Which is still one level too many, but anyway.)
     
  14. Feb 19, 2015 #974 of 1154
    Arcady

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    To me it is more worthless these days. If I want to watch XOD on a Mini, and the Roamio is sleeping, I can't. That's just dumb.

    I don't remember the last time I looked at the Roamio and the record light was not on. It is almost always recording something.

    I don't really get the point anyway. All this fuss to save $10 a year in power bills? Who cares?
     
  15. Feb 19, 2015 #975 of 1154
    DeltaOne

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    I've been okay with the 20.4.6 changes but now have two empty folders I can't delete. They were new OnePass entries that I inadvertently created with "recordings and streaming" when I meant only "recordings."

    I've re-read most of this thread but don't see how to delete these empty folders. I've changed the OnePass entries to recordings only. Do I need to force a connection to TiVo HQ? Reboot the Roamio? Sacrifice a chicken?
     
  16. Feb 19, 2015 #976 of 1154
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    It should just drop away... That is weird, I have change and changed back several. You could go into manage OnePass and delete it all together and recreate it, but if you don't have streaming selected it should drop on its own.

    Do you have the IOS app? Can you take a screen shot of the 1P settings?
     
  17. Feb 19, 2015 #977 of 1154
    wmcbrine

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    I had to look up "XOD" -- Xfinity on Demand? That sounds like a bug, and a real reason to avoid Standby, yes. But, it doesn't apply to me.

    And I don't get the point of people taking more time to post about how worthless Standby supposedly is, than it would to put their TiVos in Standby. It's no fuss at all. I do it automatically, every time I leave my TiVo, and I have done for years. I've even trained my mother to do it. It only takes a few seconds. I mean, I know people are lazy, but come on.
     
  18. Feb 19, 2015 #978 of 1154
    DeltaOne

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    I deleted one of the OnePass entries. Here's the other one, for the Durst show on HBO.

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  19. Feb 19, 2015 #979 of 1154
    Arcady

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    Nope.
    I want the buffer there when I turn on the TV.
    I want the TiVo alive when I connect to it from a network app.
    I want guests to be able to use it without asking questions.
    I want the Mini to work without waiting for the host to wake up.
    I want my hard drive to not be ruined by unnecessary parking.
     
  20. Feb 19, 2015 #980 of 1154
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Is the folder just on your phone or on your main TiVo box as well. I noticed it took a few moments for the folder to delete when I tried it right now on my iPad.

    I assume the folder went away for the 1P you deleted all together?

    That is a weird bug. It looks like you are doing everything correctly.
     

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