20.4.6 Release Notes

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by TiVoMargret, Jan 28, 2015.

  1. Feb 8, 2015 #881 of 1154
    59er

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    Although you CAN use the 2-pane view, the more crowded NPL may give you more reason to want the categories there. I use the TV Series category far more with the new software than ever before.
     
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  3. Feb 8, 2015 #883 of 1154
    moonscape

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    Season. I would expect that to mean by season first, episode second ... and for recording and streaming not to have any duplicating entries.
     
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    You're welcome. I like to further the discussion, in hopes that TiVoMargaret and her people will find a way to fix things.
     
  5. Feb 8, 2015 #885 of 1154
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    I only record series from TV (no movies), so the categories are useless to me.
     
  6. Feb 9, 2015 #886 of 1154
    Leon WIlkinson

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    Most duplicating I see is caused by ratings in prime v netflix, other data differences will do the same.
     
  7. Feb 9, 2015 #887 of 1154
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    It's funny that the website orders folders and shows fine by date under "My Shows" in your account, when you view what is on your Roamio. At least it is a somewhat simple working around for those of us with a lot of programs recorded.

    Hopefully they leave the website alone...
     
  8. Feb 9, 2015 #888 of 1154
    Diana Collins

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    Nope...just woke up our Pro that has the high power saving mode enabled and the 6 tuners where all tuned to different channels. They look like the channels that were in use when it went into standby last night, and one tuner was set to MSNBC, which was used by the Mini in the bedroom early this morning.

    Perhaps this behavior is dependent on the cablecard? We have Motorola cards from Verizon.
     
  9. Feb 9, 2015 #889 of 1154
    aaronwt

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    I'm on FiOS too with a Motorola Cable Card. I have seen the same behavior as you. Which is the expected behavior.
     
  10. Feb 9, 2015 #890 of 1154
    lpwcomp

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    According to the text on the "Power Saving Settings" screen, all the different levels control is the amount of idle time the TiVo waits before automatically going into standby.
     
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    Arcady

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    Not really. They also control if the TiVo will wake up the record suggestions or not. Did you read them?
     
  12. Feb 9, 2015 #892 of 1154
    lpwcomp

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    Actually, I didn't read the text for the individual settings, just the global one. I turn off suggestions anyway. For those that do want suggestions recorded, it doesn't say is what it does if you put the TiVo in standby manually.
     
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    If you reset your TiVo this will do a soft reset of the CableCard and when the box restarts all the tuners will be on the channel it was tuned to before the reset.
    If all the tuners is on the lowest channel in the CableCard line up then the box lost power for more than a minute which in turn does a hard reset on the CableCard. The reason it does this is once the power is removed the card will become unpaired from the host as the OOB (Out of Band) messages has stopped. Once the power is restored then the card will receive the OOB messages from the head end and will repair the card and it will start to function.

    There is two ways to see the uptime of the card.
    1. Go to the DVR diagnostics and go past all the data for the tuners and in the look for the "time from OOB tune start". It will show the time in seconds.
    2. Go to the CableCard diagnostics and select the Status menu. On the top line you will see "uptime". This will tell the days, hours, minutes that the card has been up and running since the last soft or hard reset.
    If you go to the Network section of the CableCard menu you can see the OOB message counter. You can make the counter update by continuously hitting the select button. If you loss the OOB messages then the card will no longer function.

    I am wondering if this problem is only happening on the base Roamio model as it has an external power supply. Those that say they have no issue are using the Plus/Pro Roamios which has an internal power supply.
    If it is only the base model then TiVo will have to disable this feature or have a new unit made with an internal power supply.

    Power loss is the only explanation that I can think of that will cause the card to do a hard reset, so I would safely speculate that the issue is related to a power supply problem caused by the new power saving software.
     
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    nooneuknow

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    The only thing that will cause all the tuners to be tuned to the lowest channel is a power loss that is long enough to cause the CableCard to do a hard reset.
    Other than that it will be somebody doing the hard reset at the cable company.
    Since people are reporting this with the new software then it has to be related to the box losing power long enough to have the hard reset occur.
    Of the people that say they do not have this issue when using the power saving features, they all have the Plus/Pro models.
    This makes me wonder if this is related to the base model since it has an external power supply.
    I am not saying this is the problem but suggesting that this maybe the issue.
     
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    I do not plan to use any of the low power modes, but as a test I decided to see what happens after standby. My Roamio Pro goes back to all of the same channels it was on before standby. When there is a reboot, all tuners are on the same channel, which is usually a low numbered channel. (I haven't determined if this was the last viewed channel or not.) I do not have power loss, because I use a UPS, like everyone with a TiVo should do.

    I have a Motorola M card and no tuning adapter in both of my TiVos. By the way, my Elite/XL4 does the same thing with the channels for standby and reboot.
     
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    Arcady

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    Lowest in "channels you receive." Not actual lowest.
     

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