20.4.6 Release Notes

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  1. Feb 1, 2015 #421 of 1154
    RoyK

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    Actually you could almost exactly duplicate the function of a second SP except the recorded programs would present in separate folders from the OP recorded shows. I could live with that but it sure isn't pretty.
     
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    bradleys

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    Setting up a test where 5 of my six tuners are being used and a higher priority 1P re-run does not allow a lower priority First showing to record.

    First I have to setup the scenerio where a OnePass with a rerun has a higher priority than a OnePass with new episode.

    Then I need to allocate all of the remaining tuners.

    If it is easy, go ahead and run the test.
     
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    If I had cable, I would prefer the provider's box to any Tivo. In my experience the latest equipment from DirecTV, Comcast, and Charter is every bit as good as Tivo. The OnePass update integrating streaming and DVR content is actually the only feature I know of unique to TiVo.

    The ONLY reason I don't have a cable box (or cable) is the fees:
    Vs. OTA:
     
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    I use Tivo for 3 reasons,

    1. Saves me $5 a month over what I would be paying for a single cable company DVR
    On top of that...
    2. FREE whole house. (this would be an additional $10 for the WH box +$8 a month for every TV I wanted it on) Tivo is a one time $130 charge for a mini.
    3. The software is so superious to Time warner / brighthouse. Their drvices are extremely slow and the interfaces clunky. Not to mention the TiVo smart phone app is 100x better than Bright house's.
     
  7. Feb 1, 2015 #427 of 1154
    bradleys

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    It is unique and I aplaud tivo just for that fact. I need to use it a little longer before I will start developing specific opinions about what tivo did well and where it needs some work.

    Sorting in the top level "My Shows" is one item that I am still on the fence with.
     
  8. Feb 1, 2015 #428 of 1154
    bradleys

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    I still have a Premiere in my mix. I have no desire to ever go ota, and if something changed dramatically in my life, I could simply sell the Pro and purchase a base.

    No reason to base decisions like that on very unlikely scenerios.
     
  9. Feb 1, 2015 #429 of 1154
    DoubleDAZ

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    Look, I don't know why this is such a big deal. I was simply making the distinction between "breaking" something from a "programmers" perspective because some people were calling the programmers idiots. As I said in another reply, I could be wrong, but I seem to recall seeing unintended duplicate SPs in my list. I can't go back and check, but if I did have dupes, that tells me the program logic was not very sophisticated and didn't check to see if there was already an SP. If I'm wrong, fine. If they did check for SPs though and asked if you wanted to create another one, then it was a supported feature and they "broke" it. If the Tivo simply offered the option to "Create a Season Pass" and that's what it did, then it just happened to work for those who wanted multiple SPs for different options. I will grant that they apparently did think about allowing multiple 1Ps and nixed the idea. If that's true, then I think they made the wrong decision.

    I don't agree with those who want to continue using multiple devices to accomplish something that can be done with a single device. Users want access to Netflix, Amazon and other services. I don't want to have to flip back and forth between the Tivo, it's apps, a Roku or even another input on my "smart" TV to see if what I'm searching for is available for one of them. I want my Tivo DVR to be the single catalog for all content. It's unfortunate they messed up the multiple 1Ps to get there and I hope they provide an alternative option.
     
  10. Feb 1, 2015 #430 of 1154
    DoubleDAZ

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    If that's the case, then I stand corrected. I was just trying to distinguish between breaking a feature vs messing up how some were using a feature for unintended purposes. I should have picked a better example, like my editing metadata to get movies uploaded to groups. I can't believe someone didn't point this out earlier. ;)
     
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  12. Feb 1, 2015 #432 of 1154
    bradleys

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    I own a Chromecast, but only really use it for travel... If tivo actually delivers a client app for one of these streaming devices - I will pick one up in a heartbeat!

    The big thing I am waiting for is the new implementation of HBOgo, and I hope tivo is able to get that included as a streaming provider!
     
  13. Feb 1, 2015 #433 of 1154
    HarperVision

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    You can sideload the TiVo app on a FireTV unit already.
     
  14. Feb 1, 2015 #434 of 1154
    bradleys

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    I am sure tivo is reading the feedback and a leadership team has been sitting around a table trying to decifer valuable feedback from passionate noise.

    Changing OnePass specifically isn't likely - it is just not aligned with the base ideology of OnePass. Coming up with enhancements to either wish lists or even suggestions, might be possible. Ensuring that reruns don't get a higher priority than first runs is another option.

    I have been around that same kind of table, and it isn't an easy conversation. A lot of disappointment from a team perspective based on the reaction from something you are really proud of. Making a decision to react or wait for the current functionality to absorb into the user base.

    Not a fun time at tivo this week, I am sure.
     
  15. Feb 1, 2015 #435 of 1154
    RoyK

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    Oh? Well I currently have family visiting and a granddaughter expressed interest in seeing the very first episode of Dr. Who.
    It took approximately 15 seconds to find it on Netflix (and AMazon Prime) and start it playing for her ON THE PRE OnePass Roamio. No flipping back and forth involved. No Passes (one or otherwise) required either.
     
  16. Feb 1, 2015 #436 of 1154
    DoubleDAZ

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    That may be the problem. With On Demand, streaming, etc., there is not near as much need for a DVR beyond time-shifting new content. The youth of today probably don't even now what a TV is anymore, they watch on tablets and phones. :eek: I'm relatively new to Tivo and I remember being angry with them because they were satellite and OTA only back in the beginning. Then, when DirecTV started making their own, they "lowered" themselves to compete for cable subscribers. Now that Roku, AppleTV, smart TVs, etc., are out there, they see the retail market declining even further, so they begin catering to the MSOs. MSOs know that people are no longer content with just what's on now or On Demand, they want streaming. MSOs also know that internet delivery is probably the future for all content and in order for MSOs to survive, they need to offer a single solution for TV, internet, phone, security and whatever else comes along. It's only natural for Tivo to want a piece of that, especially since their patents are expiring and the competition is only going to increase.
     
  17. Feb 1, 2015 #437 of 1154
    bradleys

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    I know, and I have considered playing with that - just haven't gotten around to it. I am hoping tivo delivers a supported product.

    I am really looking forward to seeing reaction to the new android app! The one you guys have is basically a reported IOS app by design. The new one uses android design queues and is distinctly different that the IOS app.

    (Hopefully, this was in preparation for a fire TV app)
     
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  19. Feb 1, 2015 #439 of 1154
    bradleys

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    Especially with Netflix, they almost completely eliminate branding differences - that is very cool. Select a streaming show and it goes directly too it... No stopping at profiles, no episode splash page, tivo My Shows to streaming content!

    Now that is cool!!!

    Saying what tivo has provided doesn't bring value, I think is a little disingenuous.

    The move to several distinct and unrelated streaming services has done more to complicate the viewing experience than anything in recent memory. Tivo at least attempting to bring continuity across platforms has to be appreciated.
     
  20. Feb 1, 2015 #440 of 1154
    HarperVision

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    Last I checked this was the Release notes thread, not the OnePass thread :rolleyes:

    Maybe try not using cheap Chinese rip offs?
     

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