Ah, yes, I forgot that with the Roamio, it's been $49 for a new box, with transfer of PLS. I called it, on what they would do (except they didn't explicitly state you fried your tuner with a hot signal), but got the cost wrong. Before the Roamio it was $199 and a refurb w/transfer of PLS, and that was only for some customers, within certain variables. At some point, I'd bet they start sending Roamio refurbs, when they have more of them in stock, than they can sell in promo offers. Good luck, and now back to our regularly scheduled programming... ETA: It appears that they are now sending refurbs, as you confirmed 20 minutes after this post.