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Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by TiVoMargret, Sep 9, 2014.
Me too and I don't even have FiOS.
After my Premiere Elite/XL4 with SD menus updated to v20.4.4a, paging up and down through the My Shows list is excruciatingly slow with Groups turned on. And when I turn Groups off, the highlight bar jumps to another row with no user input whenever a new program begins recording or transferring. Are all SDUI users experiencing these frustrations?
Yes, I want the TiVo guy dancing around, doing the Moonwalk, maybe some old soft shoe, tap dancing, etc.
The cable card screens come from the card itself, so their UI is controlled by the cable company and/or the manufacturer of the card and will likely never be in HD.
I mainly don't like how the settings screens flip back and forth. It's annoying to transverse them and constantly have my screen go black for a second as it switches back and forth.
The old UI backgrounds were actually just short MPEG-2 video clips, they weren't animated on the fly. The graphics hardware in older units prior to the Premiere was pretty rudimentary. It could basically overlay pre-made images and text over video. They were able to crudely animate the overlay elements so they would slide into view in sync with the video, but it was jerky by comparison.
Flash is vector based so the graphics for the HDUI are actually being drawn on the fly. Animating them smoothly would take quite a bit more horsepower. I'm not sure even with Haxe they'll be able to do that. Plus I think that sort of animation in UIs has fallen out of style, so I don't think they'd bring it back even if they could.
I hate the audio dropout. Don't even think it needs to happen. Pulling up guide with guide button, no dropout. Dismiss guide with guide button, no dropout. Use back button to dismiss guide, dropout. Tivo Central dropouts are far longer when watching something recorded. I suspect if they ever complete the HD gui, they'll likely get rid of these Dropouts since they obviously don't have to be there.
I get the same audio dropout when I'm watching live TV at the time a recording starts on that same channel (there is no dropout at the start of the recording as near as I can tell).
so you're both using the sdui?
Yeah, I'm sure that was what we were saying....
Of course TiVo isn't going to win with people on the HDUI at this point. Even if every screen was HD tomorrow, all you'd likely see on here would not be thanks, but rather choruses of 'took them long enough!' and 'it's about time!'.
1) This is the Roamio forum, and
2) *shrug* switch to the HDUI, it's better now on Premieres
+1. The app>>>>>>>>the TiVo itself.
...which would be true.
Well after waiting 3 days and trying the old connect to service and reboot for the HSN App to show up I decided to contact Margret by email today. I sent her a short message and my TSNs and surprisingly she responded back and had me connect to the service and do a reboot and the App showed up.
If I remember correctly I had this same issue back in January with the Opera App store. That never showed up with the Winter update and after about two weeks of waiting and doing the old connect to service and rebooting, I had to contact Margret to have it sent to my TiVos.
I noticed with this update that coming back to live TV from TiVo Central is much faster than before. I used to have a 3 to 5 second delay and now it is only about a second or two.
Rebooted my premieres today because, why not, and the HSN app showed up. Pretty cool.
It doesn't annoy me so much as baffle me. It seems like at the very least, they could take the exact same menu items and display them in the HDUI without a terrible amount of effort. Could they do more, like rearranging the entire menu structure? Sure, but that could be done independently of moving 100% to the HDUI.
It just seems to me that it would make the TiVo Central more uniform, and feel more "complete," to have all the same UI. There's enough of a difference between the SD and HDUIs that it's kind of glaring when you have to jump back and forth between them.
Yes, I too agree that there are higher priority items... but it seems (to this outsider, with no access to the codebase) like moving to the HDUI could be something they could have an intern do.
Any chance you guys have any ideas for getting my Roamio Plus and my Mini to catch the update? I have been connecting to Tivo daily, multiple times in a row and have yet to see the pending restart.
I know this isn't something you'll want to hear, but be patient and it will come. Did you sign up for the priority update? http://www.tivo.com/priority20.4.4
Did you put your TSN in the priority update?
I just put my TSNs in. Guess I have to be an adult and wait. Lol
lol bah! When has being an adult ever been any fun?