20.4.4 Release Notes

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by TiVoMargret, Sep 9, 2014.

  1. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

    May 14, 2013


    Me too and I don't even have FiOS.
  2. MHunter1

    MHunter1 TiVo Bug Hunter

    Oct 11, 2007
    Silicon Valley
    After my Premiere Elite/XL4 with SD menus updated to v20.4.4a, paging up and down through the My Shows list is excruciatingly slow with Groups turned on. And when I turn Groups off, the highlight bar jumps to another row with no user input whenever a new program begins recording or transferring. Are all SDUI users experiencing these frustrations?
  3. pig_man

    pig_man Member

    Jun 4, 2009
    Yes, I want the TiVo guy dancing around, doing the Moonwalk, maybe some old soft shoe, tap dancing, etc.
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    The cable card screens come from the card itself, so their UI is controlled by the cable company and/or the manufacturer of the card and will likely never be in HD. :D

    I mainly don't like how the settings screens flip back and forth. It's annoying to transverse them and constantly have my screen go black for a second as it switches back and forth.

    The old UI backgrounds were actually just short MPEG-2 video clips, they weren't animated on the fly. The graphics hardware in older units prior to the Premiere was pretty rudimentary. It could basically overlay pre-made images and text over video. They were able to crudely animate the overlay elements so they would slide into view in sync with the video, but it was jerky by comparison.

    Flash is vector based so the graphics for the HDUI are actually being drawn on the fly. Animating them smoothly would take quite a bit more horsepower. I'm not sure even with Haxe they'll be able to do that. Plus I think that sort of animation in UIs has fallen out of style, so I don't think they'd bring it back even if they could.
  5. FitzAusTex

    FitzAusTex Member

    May 7, 2014


    I hate the audio dropout. Don't even think it needs to happen. Pulling up guide with guide button, no dropout. Dismiss guide with guide button, no dropout. Use back button to dismiss guide, dropout. Tivo Central dropouts are far longer when watching something recorded. I suspect if they ever complete the HD gui, they'll likely get rid of these Dropouts since they obviously don't have to be there.
  6. tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Well-Known Member

    Jul 22, 2010
    I get the same audio dropout when I'm watching live TV at the time a recording starts on that same channel (there is no dropout at the start of the recording as near as I can tell).
  7. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

    Apr 19, 2012
    sweet home, al
    so you're both using the sdui?
  8. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    Yeah, I'm sure that was what we were saying....:confused:
  9. NJ Webel

    NJ Webel Member

    Dec 7, 2004
    Richmond, VA
    Of course TiVo isn't going to win with people on the HDUI at this point. Even if every screen was HD tomorrow, all you'd likely see on here would not be thanks, but rather choruses of 'took them long enough!' and 'it's about time!'.
  10. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    1) This is the Roamio forum, and
    2) *shrug* switch to the HDUI, it's better now on Premieres
  11. anthonymoody

    anthonymoody Member

    Apr 29, 2008

    +1. The app>>>>>>>>the TiVo itself.


    ...which would be true.
  12. Jed1

    Jed1 Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2013
    Frackville, PA.
    Well after waiting 3 days and trying the old connect to service and reboot for the HSN App to show up I decided to contact Margret by email today. I sent her a short message and my TSNs and surprisingly she responded back and had me connect to the service and do a reboot and the App showed up.

    If I remember correctly I had this same issue back in January with the Opera App store. That never showed up with the Winter update and after about two weeks of waiting and doing the old connect to service and rebooting, I had to contact Margret to have it sent to my TiVos.

    I noticed with this update that coming back to live TV from TiVo Central is much faster than before. I used to have a 3 to 5 second delay and now it is only about a second or two.
  13. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

    May 14, 2013
    +3 :up:
  14. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

    May 14, 2013
    Rebooted my premieres today because, why not, and the HSN app showed up. Pretty cool.
  15. LoadStar

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

    Jul 24, 2001
    Milwaukee, WI
    It doesn't annoy me so much as baffle me. It seems like at the very least, they could take the exact same menu items and display them in the HDUI without a terrible amount of effort. Could they do more, like rearranging the entire menu structure? Sure, but that could be done independently of moving 100% to the HDUI.

    It just seems to me that it would make the TiVo Central more uniform, and feel more "complete," to have all the same UI. There's enough of a difference between the SD and HDUIs that it's kind of glaring when you have to jump back and forth between them.

    Yes, I too agree that there are higher priority items... but it seems (to this outsider, with no access to the codebase) like moving to the HDUI could be something they could have an intern do.
  16. akwing12

    akwing12 New Member

    Sep 13, 2014
    Any chance you guys have any ideas for getting my Roamio Plus and my Mini to catch the update? I have been connecting to Tivo daily, multiple times in a row and have yet to see the pending restart.
  17. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

    May 14, 2013
  18. ShayL

    ShayL Member

    Jul 17, 2007
    Dallas, TX

    Did you put your TSN in the priority update?
  19. akwing12

    akwing12 New Member

    Sep 13, 2014
    I just put my TSNs in. Guess I have to be an adult and wait. Lol
  20. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

    May 14, 2013
    lol bah! When has being an adult ever been any fun? :p

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