20.4.2 UI hard to read - need the old Font back!

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by Tony Chick, Jul 9, 2014.

  1. jay_winter

    jay_winter P4+P4XL+Mini+FIOS

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    Here's one: Like so many of us, I still have one of those 200-lb flat-screen glass CRT behemoths that shrinks the display to 16:9 for 1080i, but displays the full 4:3 screen for 480p. So, when viewing one of the SD channels, its nice to have it use the entire screen. But, in 4:3 480p, the old SD menu is easier to read.
     
  2. slowbiscuit

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    I'll never understand the folks that shell out premium dollars for an HD Tivo then saddle it to an old CRT.
     
  3. NorthAlabama

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    i agree. if the hdui is hard to see on an sdtv, maybe the problem isn't with tivo.
     
  4. b_scott

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    serious question, original poster - how old are you?
     
  5. b_scott

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    agreed to a point. I understand why yellow is easier to see for NEW stuff - but I think the blue looks so much nicer.....
     
  6. Tony Chick

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    Sherman...
    I'm 62 with decent distance vision & don't need a prescription according to my optician but I use x1.25 readers for working on the computer and reading. I have no problem seeing the TV or most of the UI on this or my Roku, Apple TV etc., its just the thin tightly grouped white letters in the guide and info screens that give me a problem where before I had none. It won't kill me or stop me using it, its just less good than before.
     
  7. b_scott

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    I see. That's unfortunate. Personally I don't see much of a difference, only stylistic. But I'm 32.
     
  8. larrs

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    Everyone in my house likes the new UI.
     
  9. Jackamus

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    Me too.
     
  10. sharkster

    sharkster Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    One of my Tivos has the update now and I rather like it. I'm late 50s and legally blind with glasses. I think it looks pretty cool and don't find it problematic at all.

    I hope those who are having a hard time with are able to get used to it because I don't think there is any going back. I'd be up for choices, though. I'd love to be able to get rid of those stupid 4 little screens at the top (on the Tivo Central page) with suggestions. I'd also like to make folders without having them add their own (like that stupid HD folder).

    I also wish we could have On Demand, but I guess that's up to Charter.
     
  11. JoeKustra

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    The font isn't so bad. I've adjusted after three days. However, the font, when used with the bright yellow highlight is much harder to see. If the yellow was turned down a bit it wouldn't be a factor.
     
  12. TexasGrillChef

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    I would like to know a few things, all of which have en effect on viewing ability.

    1. What size is your tv?
    2. Are you using hdmi cables outputting at 1080i/p?
    3. Is your tv HD?

    All of this can have an effect. I have poor eyesight, I have a 80" HDTV, and my TiVo outputs is set to auto, and I have a high grade video scaler in my receiver does a great job of upconverting everything to 1080p. A better job then the TiVo does when watching video that isn't 1080p

    I love the new fonts.

    I do agree about colour, wish we had the capability to have "themes" for fonts backgrounds etc. just like you can with Roku, and some bluray players.

    TGC
     
  13. phone man

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    I like the new font but my wife who uses readers for computer and reading commented she thought the old font was clearer. Maybe something to this?
     
  14. NorthAlabama

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    the new font is a little more difficult to read on smaller screens or from a distance, but it's not a deal breaker for me, and hasn't caused me to move closer to a screen to read.
     
  15. katm

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    I agree. I am watching SD on a small TV and it is more difficult to read. Though I don't know if it is the font itself or just the contrast between the darker blue background and a very bright text color. It is almost like the effect you get from watching an on-air personality wearing black and white stripes on TV. Not a deal breaker, but I miss the old, lighter blue color.

    Since I don't use the HD menus (on a 4:3 tv) and all the benefits there, my only benefit is less readable type!
     
  16. Tony Chick

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    Sherman...
    Its definitely not my setup, its a 47" LG that is properly setup, the Tivo outputs 1080i and my Yamaha receiver kicks it up to 1080p, HDMI all the way. The picture is very good, and I only sit 5' away. As someone else mentioned, its almost an optical illusion and either different colors or a different font would fix it, as I said, I just want the choice. Everyone that likes the new font should be able to choose that also.
     

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