20/20 The Bruce Jenner interview

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  1. Apr 26, 2015 #41 of 149

    jsmeeker Notable Member TCF Club

    Apr 2, 2001


    I remember something about the referrals. But for some reason, I had thought Bruce had said he still wasn't sure and didn't have specific plans for that surgery at that time.
  2. Apr 26, 2015 #42 of 149

    MonsterJoe Travels for Food

    Feb 19, 2003
    Central MA
    I've always liked him since iwas a kid and always thought his family treated him like crap, as far as one can tell from a TV show.

    I sort of didn't want to watch this and feed in to the media thing, but my curiosity prevailed.

    What a genuine and nice person. I hope he's OK and this goes as smoothly for as is possible.
  3. Apr 26, 2015 #43 of 149

    megory Advanced TiVoOligan

    Jan 22, 2003
    I wish there were a way to thumbs up all of your comments, because I agree with you all and appreciate that you have so much insight.

    I don't have anything to add except

    (I am only allowed to enter 8 thumbs up).
  4. Apr 26, 2015 #44 of 149

    jsmeeker Notable Member TCF Club

    Apr 2, 2001
    In the little bits of Keeping up with the Kardashians I saw, Bruce was usually being marginalized. Usually, by Kris. But now, really, some of what we saw all adds up now. When he moved out to get his own place, while still being married, that now really seems to be a part of the transition. At the time, it really looked like Kris was kicking him out. Maybe it wasn't exactly like that.
  5. Apr 26, 2015 #45 of 149

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003


    Then I'm not sure what you meant by this:

    By the time the family had the opportunity to do the TV show, he had been part of the family for sixteen years, and based on the way the roles are depicted on the Kardashian show, I don't think Bruce had much choice about whether he could agree to participate or not. Kris and the girls were going to capitalize on their fame regardless of what he thought. He largely steers clear of the limelight, and now after seeing this interview, I understand why.

    I'm sure this interview didn't hurt in that regard, but if that were the primary reason, the interview would have been a week or two before the documentary series premieres, not several months before. Besides, ABC News has no stake in the documentary show, so why would they agree to participate in something that's purely for promotional purposes?
  6. Apr 26, 2015 #46 of 149

    Sapphire Xtal substance

    Sep 9, 2002
    You know what, I wondered this myself.

    I am going to have to go with no.

    First, he went to a competing network. I believe there was internal strife within NBCUniversal about it (E! is a NBCUniversal property).

    Secondly, Jenner seemed genuine and almost embarrassed to be on there. You could tell Jenner was a bit nervous. Coming out for a trans person is a very personal and nerve wracking thing. Even worse is doing it on national TV.
  7. Apr 26, 2015 #47 of 149

    getreal postcrastinator

    Sep 29, 2003
    I'm gonna predict Bruce's new name when she reemerges: Jenny Bruce. You read it here first folks! :cool:

    Sure, why not? But since he has been tormented by this since he was 7 or 8, and attempted hormone therapy about 35 years ago before losing his nerve, he gets a pass. The time is right ... in progressive thinking and in his level of maturity to handle it.

    Note: I'm still referring to him as "he" since he addressed that in the interview. That'll change when SHE (i.e., Jenny Bruce) emerges in public.
  8. Apr 26, 2015 #48 of 149

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

    Apr 19, 2012
    sweet home, al
    it was an overall response to comments questioning his motivation for participating in the family reality show, especially in light of how he was treated - was he seeking personal fame and attention?

    based on the interview comments about hardship, i figured it might have boiled down to something much simpler...the money, and how it would help the family, not his personal desire to seek fame or publicity. sure, things had been getting better since the 80s, but the reality show made a big difference.
  9. Apr 26, 2015 #49 of 149

    jilter Not.

    Oct 4, 2002
    Where can I see the whole 2 hour interview?
  10. Apr 27, 2015 #50 of 149

    StevesWeb Grumpy Old Geek

    Dec 26, 2008
    Geek Hill,...
    This is my position too. What a terrible thing for a person to feel their body is all wrong.

    Years ago I had a friend who was transitioning, and it clearly was a central source of agony in her life.

    Compassion is the keystone of civilization, it should be held in high regard.
  11. Apr 27, 2015 #51 of 149

    lambertman Chris Lambert, man

    Dec 20, 2002
  12. Apr 27, 2015 #52 of 149

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

    Apr 19, 2012
    sweet home, al
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2015
  13. Apr 27, 2015 #53 of 149

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

    Apr 13, 2004
    Hartsville, SC
    People like watching a train wreck?
  14. Apr 27, 2015 #54 of 149

    DouglasPHill Cynical old guy

    Feb 10, 2005
    St Louis, MO
    There's no accounting for taste.
  15. Apr 27, 2015 #55 of 149

    hummingbird_206 Retired

    Aug 22, 2007
    Valley of...
    I thought it was a very interesting interview. I hope all those comedians who have been making fun of him are proud of themselves. I also wonder if what were assumed to be botched plastic surgeries were really part of his transition and weren't botched at all?

    I do find it interesting that he doesn't yet want to be called she. Especially since he says he has the signed recommendations for the sex change operation if he decides to get it.

    I think he's really worried about how this is impacting his family. I had read he was having a crew film/document his transition, but that he has full rights over what/when/how or even if it is ever shown.

    I also found it interesting that they stressed in the show that gender identity and sexual orientation are different things. I've never heard that before, but it certainly makes sense given that so many people are married to someone of the opposite sex before they transition.
  16. Apr 27, 2015 #56 of 149

    Jstkiddn Shutity up up up

    Oct 15, 2003
    Look....agree with the guy or not, but there is no denying that in the vast patchwork of humanity, there are people out there just like him.

    Historically, these people have been ridiculed and shunned by society, which probably accounts for a big part of that crazy high suicide statistic that was given. What was it....40 -something percent of transgender people actually ATTEMPT suicide? Not consider it. Not think about it. Attempt it.

    If you have a high profile guy like him.....an elite athlete......who is brave enough to come out and give an honest dialog about this subject in hopes that it will help others like him, then more power to him.

    I have never watched any of the Kardashian things on TV, nor do I plan to start, but I did find him to be honest, forthright and willing to openly talk about something that potentially can help others. I didn't think I cared anything about watching the interview and actually told my friend that I was going to tune in for a bit, but I could not imagine anything Bruce Jenner had to say that I would want to hear for 2 hours.

    I was very wrong. I watched the whole thing and I can honestly say that I feel that I now have a better understanding of what transgender people go through. I just don't see the negative to this. I wish he and his family well.
  17. Apr 27, 2015 #57 of 149

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

    Jan 5, 2002
    Berkeley CA
    I posted earlier that I hoped Jenner's interview would help the community. In the interest of fairness, here's another opinion saying this interview may not be so helpful:

    Trans people need an icon. But Bruce Jenner is the worst possible choice.

    I suppose at some point I'm going to have to watch the interview, but I'm not looking forward to 2 hours of Diane Sawyer's earnestness. Ugh.
  18. Apr 27, 2015 #58 of 149

    MonsterJoe Travels for Food

    Feb 19, 2003
    Central MA
    I think calling him the worst possible choice is extremely narrow minded in that it marginalizes his experience and shows the same lack of compassion and understanding that people living this life need to be free of
  19. Apr 27, 2015 #59 of 149

    kettledrum Active Member

    Nov 17, 2003
    Fishers, IN
    I haven't seen the interview. I'm under 40, have never seen any TV show having to do with the Kardashians, and know of Bruce Jenner being a former Olympic decathlon gold medal winner.

    However, now after reading this thread, I wish I had recorded it at least.
  20. Apr 27, 2015 #60 of 149

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

    Apr 19, 2012
    sweet home, al
    i'm not particularly a diane sawyer fan, my experience was the first hour went quickly, and once i'd made it to the halfway point, the second hour wasn't a big deal.

    overall impressions of the interview did leave me feeling as if the better interactions were purposely drawn out in order to make it last the full two hours.

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