20/20 prostitution in america....

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  1. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

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    If I had a daughter, I wouldn't want her to be an alcoholic either, so I guess we should bring back Prohibition. :rolleyes:

    Seriously, that is such an old, tired and cliched argument; did you really think there weren't answers available for it already?

    How about this? Whether or not you think prostitution is appropriate for your daughter is between you and your daughter. If the only way you can keep your daughter from turning tricks is to have the government make it illegal, then that doesn't speak particularly highly of your parenting skills.

    Or this? One of the working girls on the HBO Cathouse series talks about how she's open with her mother about her chosen profession and the mother is happy for her and encouraging her. We even listen to a phone call between her and her mother when she calls to tell her about her first "party". So, whose parental choices is it the government's responsibility to instill into legislation. Hers or yours?


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  2. Joules1111

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    I didn't see the show.

    But it DOES hurt people other than those that are participating. A lot of these men are married, paying extra to not use condoms, and going home and giving their wives god knows what incurable or deadly disease they have gotten from their "consenting on both sides" romp. I'm all for two consenting adults doing whatever they want, but it is beyond disgusting when married guys risk someone else's health like this. :thumbsdown:
     
  3. dimented

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    Well put. Very well put.

    I wouldn't want my daughters hooking. But there are many other legal things that I wouldn't want them doing either. I don't see any circumstance in which she is a victim. Other than being forced to do it, and that is covered under enslavement, so no need for another law.
     
  4. dimented

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    True, but that can happen if they pay for sex or just meet someone at the corner bar. Paying for sex isn't the problem in this scenario, it is the cheating bastards that are the problem. And you are going to have that no matter if prostitution is legal, illegal, or completely removed from existence.
     
  5. Joules1111

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    Yes, I see your point. It just really squeems me out is all.

    BTW, I'm not necessarily against prostitution. Legalization and government regulation (which I'm assuming includes medical testing and maybe even enforced condom usage) would do away with my scenario. Still cheating bastards, of course. But at least they aren't affecting the other persons health.
     
  6. anom

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    I didn't see the show either.


    You're clearly against adultery. Should it be illegal?

    The behavior you described is disgusting, and I haven't heard anyone advocate it. And although I think prostitution should be legal, I also think it should be tightly regulated. That means no street prostitution, which affects the quality of life of a lot of people, and it means mandatory STD screenings, which would protect the health of the people you're talking about.

    I have a great deal of sympathy for streetwalkers who live a very dangerous life because they have no financial alternative of have a drug addiction they can't overcome. It's a problem I'd like to see eradicated.
     
  7. Joules1111

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    Adultery is illegal in some states including Florida, where I live (or at least that's what a quick internet search turns up). Also, I think you might have started typing right before I posted above you. I agree with much of what you say.
     
  8. scottykempf

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    An interesting side note to this is the part they showed about the legal place in Nevada. They said that they test for diseases and had not had one case ever.
     
  9. aindik

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    It's also worth considering that perhaps streetwalkers wouldn't even exist if prostitution were legal.

    It's also worth considering whether streetwalkers would exist if drugs were legal.

    (By "wouldn't exist" I don't mean the women would die, I mean the vocation might no longer exist in that form).
     
  10. loubob57

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    I didn't see this episode of 20/20 but did see one of the segments elsewhere (GMA maybe). However, I recently watched an episode of Penn & Teller's BS from Showtime that was about prostitution. One of their biggest points is that a lot of what makes prostitution exploitive and dangerous to the women is a direct result of it being illegal.
     
  11. busyba

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    I'd think that Lawrence v. Texas, while not directly on point, will likely support the overturn on appeal of any convictions for adultery, assuming any DA's office would want the PR nightmare of trying to prosecute such a case in the first place.
     
  12. busyba

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    Replace "prostitution" in that sentence with "drugs" or "gambling" (or even "alcohol", back in the day), and it would still be true.

    Such is the problem with all these "morality" laws.
     
  13. Weaselboy

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    Not a valid analogy. Alcohol, when used in moderation (not "abused"), causes no ill effects either physically or psychologically. Prohibition was primarily promoted by religious zealots who believed any alcohol use at all was immoral. That is not the argument I am making against prostitution, I am simply saying prostitution is not a good thing for the young women involved in it.

    Having a tough time discussing an issue without resorting to a personal attack? :confused:

    So we should just legalize heroin also and make it easy for young people to obtain and become addicted to the drug... and just hope parents are successful explaining the dangers of heroin? I am not suggesting the government raise our children for us, but I am suggesting if the government can reasonably take steps to make it easier on us to do so, that can be a good thing.

    See above.

    Another personal attack. :rolleyes:
     
  14. dimented

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    If you think those are personal attacks, you may want to grow a thicker skin. Neither were personal attacks in my opinion. For a personal attack to be personal it needs to be made personal. Neither of those were made personal, they had nothing to do with who said them and everything to with what was actually said.


    Now with that out of the way. I fail to see where a girls is anymore a victim in prostitution as she is in any other undesirable activity she may engage in. She was not forced to hook. It was a decision she made. Legal or illegal she made that choice and was not forced into it. How is that a victim?
     
  15. Jebberwocky!

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    I was going to say pretty much the same thing. Lighten up Francis :D
     
  16. acvthree

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    >>>So we should just legalize heroin also and make it easy for young people to obtain

    So, how does legalizing heroin make it any easier to obtain?

    It is being illegal that drives a multi-billion dollar business that, as a side effect, is used to fund lots of nice things like terrorism.

    You are not going to get rid of drugs. Making them legal and regulated gets rid of the crime.

    Al
     
  17. SnakeEyes

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    The Nevada Department of Health and Center for Disease Control has not had a single report of a transmitted STD from a legal brothel in Nevada with the adoption of condoms and extensive weekly testing.
     
  18. jeff125va

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    In theory, I agree. In practice, however, they are sometimes victimized when a pimp, for example, uses force or the threat of force against them in any number of ways.

    Still, that furthers the point that the victimization is a result of the illegality. If it were legal, she'd have some recourse. She can't exactly sue her pimp for breach of contract if she wants to go independent, find another pimp, or just simply quit.
     
  19. SnakeEyes

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    Streetwalkers will still exist just as we will always have homeless people. However it is dramatically reduced where there is legal prostitution. It is almost nill near the legal NV brothels. However, the further you get away from the legal areas the more there are streetwalkers. This especially is true in Vegas where out of towners think prostitution is legal everywhere in NV.
     
  20. dimented

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    I see where you are coming from, but she is still not a victim in my eyes. She is making the choice to be there and be in that occupation and situation. If you are making a choice to do something, you can't be a victim. She is choosing to be a prostitute. There is always a choice. The alternative may not be good either, but there is always a choice, and having that choice is what prevents her from being a victim.
     

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