20/20 prostitution in america....

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by emandbri, Mar 21, 2008.

  1. Peter000

    Peter000 Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Apr 15, 2002
    Red Wing, MN


    FWIW, The FBI wasn't going after Spitzer because they thought he was buying hookers, they were investigating purely because of some weird banking transactions. They thought he was bribing someone.

    What is the FBI supposed to be doing, in your opinion? Not all crime is serial killers and child porn. I can't fault them for investigating suspicious activities.

    Anyway, back to the original topic. Sorry for the hijack.
  2. acvthree

    acvthree Active Member

    Jan 17, 2004
    >>>FWIW, The FBI wasn't going after Spitzer because they thought he was buying hookers, they were investigating purely because of some weird banking transactions. They thought he was bribing someone.

    A very wealthy man moved more that $10,000 between accounts. Any movement of $10,000 or more is reported to the government. From what has been reported that was the only "suspicious" thing about it.

    Back to the topic...

    I didn't watch the show, but the timing seemed to me to be related to Spitzer which had to do with something completely different from street hookers.

    The comments above have said "prostitution" and not "street hookers" so I was responding to that. There was also a comment about 'exploited women" and "fantasy". There is not much of a fantasy to street hooking so I'm not sure how that relates. These are often very tragic people being exploited because of their expensive drug problems.
  3. daperlman

    daperlman check the rhime

    Jan 25, 2002
    In GA there are a ton of places with enslaved girls working there. Not sure how they get from North Korea and China to here... but it is not a desirable lot in life. I have this show waiting for me ... haven't watched it yet. But the story makes it look like it profiles local drug addicted street walkers.
  4. Amnesia

    Amnesia The Question

    Jan 30, 2005
    Boston, MA
    Well, obviously slavery is illegal, no matter what the slaves are forced to do.

    But that has little in common with two consenting adults engaging in commerce...
  5. marksman

    marksman ID-10-T

    Mar 4, 2002


    I agree. The law of making it illegal to buy but not illegal to sell is an attempt to protect the girls from pimps.

    However, even though I am not a big fan of prostitution, I see no reason why it should not be regulated and controlled and made much safer. Sure you would still have underground hos who would not qualify to work legally, but then you would only have psychotic cheapskates going to them as customers.

    I just think it is a business transaction between two adults and there are no "victims", when the system is managed properly.
  6. marksman

    marksman ID-10-T

    Mar 4, 2002
    ABC has been working on this hooker special for over 2 years. Some of the interviews go back as far as 2005. They were not done with it yet. The Spitzer ordeal gave them the motivation to rush it on air and take advantage of the current discussion of prostitutes.

    Part of me says it was a dumb move, and another part of me says why are they taking so long making this special. It seems like it easily could have been done in the last few months instead of years.
  7. acvthree

    acvthree Active Member

    Jan 17, 2004
    Thanks. I didn't know that.

    I have to say, I dissmissed it as just exploiting the current news cycle. If I had know this was something that was more researched, I may have watched.
  8. MickeS

    MickeS Well-Known Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Prostitution used to be legal in Sweden, but "pimping" was illegal. I remember as a kid I used to see the prostitutes lined up on one of the streets in Stockholm, that was the established "prostitute lane". I think that was a pretty good compromise myself, there was enough of a social stigma attached to it that people generally didn't do it, but it was also legal so it didn't have to be done completely out of sight of the law.
    Then they made it illegal to buy sex too, in order to get rid of it and to protect the girls. I thought that was pretty stupid, as IMO all it will do is drive it further underground.
    I don't know if the change in the legislation helped reduce prostitution or if it just helped hide it, but I do remember it got rid of the prostitutes on the street. I suspect that getting it out of sight is enough for many of the politicians and others who pushed for this.
  9. emandbri

    emandbri TV junkie!

    Jul 5, 2004
    St. Louis MO
    So the guys didn't seem bothered by the show, what about women? Did any women here see it?
  10. Kablemodem

    Kablemodem Get the ketchup.

    May 26, 2001
    Especially my parties.
  11. Combat Medic

    Combat Medic No guts, no glory

    Sep 6, 2001
    I find it interesting how it works in Germany. A woman can be a prostitute at 16 but can't work in a brothel until 18.

  12. omnibus

    omnibus cowboy, yee-ha

    Sep 25, 2001
    Lost in Wyoming
    The scenes shot in Philly were pretty horrifying. These poor women seem to have no choice but to walk the streets for food (or drugs).

    Graffically they are living in abandoned houses with no utilities. One in particular was using the bathtub as a latrine, I almost barfed at the image shown there.

    To the show producers credit they showed prostitution in every social strata. From a call girl with 7 regular customers and no others, legal brothels with pro's asking $2000 per hour to the aforementioned $10 a trick street walkers.
  13. aindik

    aindik Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2002
    Those scenes were not shot in Philly. I was particularly angry when I'd keep hearing Diane Sawyer call it "Philadelphia," but it was clear from the storefronts and the passing cop cars that it was really Camden, New Jersey.

    That's akin to saying something that happened in Newark, NJ happened in New York City.

    If I was the Philly Chamber of Commerce or the Mayor's Office, I'd consider asking for an on-air correction.
  14. Jebberwocky!

    Jebberwocky! Guest

    Apr 16, 2005
    The facts are that he wired several times with the amount wired under the reporting limit. Banks are charged with looking beyond individual transactions and becuase they felt he may have been sending smaller wires to not have to report they riled a SAR (Suspicious Activity Report).

    Slight difference ;)
  15. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

    Feb 5, 2003
    Maybe the Camden hookers like to say that they're from Philly because they think it makes them seem classy. :D

    Wait a minute! A hooker in Camden? Was this her?


  16. whitson77

    whitson77 Active Member

    Nov 10, 2002
    Actually, I was with you. We watched 10 minutes and decided it was sad and gross.
  17. Jebberwocky!

    Jebberwocky! Guest

    Apr 16, 2005
    that can't be it ;)
  18. anom

    anom Enlightened

    Apr 18, 2005
    I wouldn't. There are parts of Philadelphia that are no better than Camden. Why draw attention to the fact with misplaced outrage over less than a mile?
  19. Weaselboy

    Weaselboy New Member

    May 1, 2005
    So, if you had a daughter it would be okay if she were a prostitute and you would not in any way feel she is being victimized?
  20. anom

    anom Enlightened

    Apr 18, 2005
    If she was doing it out of choice, how is she any more of a victim than a Playboy model, or a stripper? Should that be illegal, too?

    Would you be ok if your daughter was living off a minimum wage job scrubbing toilets at a prison? Should that be illegal?

    We don't make laws based on whether a certain behavior is something we want our daughters doing. That's what good parenting is for.

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