1TB WD Green SATA hdd 259.00 @ Best Buy

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  1. donaudio

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    What is the difference between the WD10EACS and the WD10EVCS? I couldn't find it in the forum
     
  2. richsadams

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    The WD10EACS is the first/original 1TB hard drive from Western Digital designed for "normal" computer use and the original subject of this thread. This is the one that came in two flavors, a "retail" model (WD10EACS-32ZJB0) sold at B&M stores like Best Buy and an "OEM" version (WD10EACS-00ZJB0) which was sold by online wholesalers like newegg.com. As noted above, the retail version worked in all situations but the OEM version did not. Also as noted above, it appears that only the OEM version is being sold now in both retail packaging and as an OEM drive. A number of people (including yours truly) have used this drive (the retail version in my case) to upgrade their TiVo's.

    The WD10EVCS is a new hard drive line (500GB, 750GB & 1TB) from Western Digital designed specifically for DVR use. It's not readily available at this point.

    Both are based on WD's "green" power conserving, low temp GP line of hard drives.
     
  3. sathead

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    Just picked up the 1TB WD10EACS-00ZJB0 at BB for $229.
    Put it in my unRAID server for the parity drive, runs quiet and stayed at 32°C (89.6°F) while writing for 4.5 hours straight yesterday.
    Nice drive.... nice price :D
     
  4. dalesd

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    I installed the same drive this weekend. Western Digital Caviar GP WD7500AACS 750GB. No significant problems. I followed the directions in the FAQ and transferred my recordings with Mfscopy. The gui went to "not responding" after a minute or two, but I left it alone and it all worked.

    Interestingly, it only shows 98 hours of HD in the system information screen. I can't explain that.

    I did a stress test of my own: while recording two HD shows, and transferring another with pyTivo, I watched a HD recording. No problems.
     
  5. dwit

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    Did you miss the "Supersize" step?
     
  6. richsadams

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    Good information. :up: Do you have a TiVo HD or a Series3? As dwit points out, the "supersize" step should get you the additional recording space.
     
  7. dalesd

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    It's a TiVoHD.

    I didn't explicitly turn on Supersize through the menu, but I did click Yes when it asked if I wanted to expand the drive. That's the same thing, right?
     
  8. richsadams

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    Yes there's a difference between expanding and "supersizing". You would have had to turn on the "supersize" option.

    [​IMG]

    It's not a huge difference...another 8 or 9 HD hours IIRC so it may or may not be worth it to you to repeat the process.
     
  9. RichB

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    It is odd, some expansions did not supersize so after MFSCopy and the expand. I then selected the new disk and set superSize on and it warned me that it was already on but it was supersized. You should not have to recopy to supersize. I think all it does is allow you to use the TiVo reserved space.

    - Rich
     
  10. richsadams

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    Supersize frees up the extra reserved space used for storing tivoclips. According to Spike you can turn supersize on and off at any time by running mfssupersize utility but if you use mfstools to backup|restore, you will loose that ability.

    For more details there's a whole thread about supersizing on the MFS Forums.
     
  11. richsadams

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    I noticed that the new Western Digital WD10EVCS GP AV/DVR drive line listed on the WD web site is starting to show up for sale at online sites. The 1TB model is retailing at buy.com for $245.99 w/free shipping but it shows "Temporarily Sold Out". It's also listed at ProVantage.com for $268.20, but as a "Special Order". Other sites list it as "Coming Soon." I'm betting they just haven't received their supply yet.

    Since it's so new it hasn't been tested as an internal upgrade in a Series3 or TiVo HD for compatibility. Anyone care to be the first on their block to try one once they become available? Certification in the TiVo Pioneer Club (with the wide variety of associated benefits) is guaranteed! ;)
     
  12. RichB

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    Wait just a minute. I did not receive my membership after testing the Western Digital Caviar RE2 GP WD1000FYPS (which did not work in an S3 BTW) :D

    - Rich
     
  13. richsadams

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    Did you complete and submit your application form in triplicate? ;)
     
  14. RichB

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    I be sure to do that. I cannot wait for my official baseball cap :p

    - Rich
     
  15. richsadams

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    And the glow in the dark socks...stunning! :p
     
  16. RichB

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    I have an TiVo HD up and running with a 1TB WD10EACS and all is well. Now that it is on the desk next to me, I notice some fairly audible seeking noise.

    I have a Vista system used for WinMFS but I cannot find the disks with the Hitachi AAM tool. WinMFS is happy. Any ideas on how to set AAM on WD10EACS?

    Thanks,

    - Rich
     
  17. greg_burns

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    Slower...
    You can dowload Hitachi Feature Tool from here.
     
  18. richsadams

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    To reset the acoustics on most all hard drives except Seagate (which doesn't offer that feature) you can use the Hitachi Feature Tool:

    http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#FeatureTool

    I just copied the program to a floppy, connected the WD drive via a regular SATA cable and booted the PC from the floppy disk. The program will show all of the drives attached to your PC. IIRC you can choose the AAM setting from the file menu and then the drive you want to adjust. Their current level will be displayed (usually 258?) and you can use the slider in the utility to change the number. Save, exit, remove the drive and ta-dah!

    The WD10EACS is already pretty quiet, but dialing it back to 128 will improve things a bit. I really didn't notice a lot of difference. If you're noise sensitive you can also buy drive mounting kits that include rubber or silicone washers and such to isolate the drive from the case a bit more. I've seen them for sale at Fry's but couldn't find it on their web site.

    The WD10EACS is (with the exception of one smaller drive) currently the quietest drive on the market.

    [​IMG]
    To compare:

    10dBA - Normal Breathing
    20dBA - Mosquito or Rustling Leaves
    30dBA - A Whisper
    40dBA - A Bubbling Brook, or a Refrigerator
    50dBA - Normal Conversation
    60dBA - Laugher
    70dBA - Vacuum Cleaner or Hairdryer
    80dBA - City Traffic or a Garbage Disposal
    90dBA - Motorcycle or Lawnmower
    150dBA – My neighbor’s dog at 3 a.m. (I’m sure of it!) ;)
     
  19. RichB

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    Thanks all.
    It worked on a different computer and the TiVo is a good deal quieter.
    I think I may look for the isolators for that little bit extra.

    - Rich
     
  20. husky55

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    There is a lot of questions regarding what HD is best for Tivo. This is a pretty fair review of the TB WD RE2-GP and Seagate 7200.11.


    http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3161


    I chose the WD in my signature based on this review. The Hitachi Deskstar is interesting. I am surprised that the new Seagate did not perform any better.

    :)
     

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