14.9.2.2 still buggy

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by hub, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. hub

    hub New Member

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    I have a Premiere with 2TB WD20EARS (drive upgraded long time ago with jmfs-rev104.iso) that was recently updated, (infected in crxssi's terminology), to 14.9.2.2-01-2-746.

    Symptoms included frequent reboots in the middle of recording (5 segments of an one hour episode possibly recorded under 14.9.2), macro blocking (with timeshifts) and artifacts in recordings.
    Very sluggish menu response (I am using SD, have always used SD after flirting with HD briefly a long time ago).

    First I thought the disk was dying. Did kickstart 54, 57, passed (even extended and off-line). BTW, can anyone tell me the exact difference between extended and off-line? I assume one or both scans all sectors.

    I then put the HD in a PC and ran WD's diagnostic and "smartctl". Everything looks good. smartctl reports

    Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0
    Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0
    Seek_Error_Rate 0
    Offline_Uncorrectable 0

    Finally, I decided to forced an OS install with kickstart 52, as I read somewhere that a forced install will use an alternate partition (in case there is something wrong with the sectors that the OS sits on, but somehow drive diagnostics can't see).
    Recording quality seems better (less macro blocking). Still the reboots continue.

    Anyone from TiVo software development reading this thread, how about putting in a upgrade me last flag somewhere?

    touch /etc/config/upgradelast

    Some of us of a certain age are tired of living on the bleeding edge and no longer fond of alpha/beta releases. Same reason that I bought an iPad2 but never the 1. I perfer somebody braver and smarter to do the testing for me.

    Other potentially relevant info:
    signal source: Cablevision coaxial, all digital channels, no OTA, no tuner adapter
    cablecard: Scientific Atlanta PowerKEY Model PKM800 HW1.2 "F"
     
  2. morac

    morac Cat God TCF Club

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    No one from TiVo development or support reads posts here (at least not officially), you'll need to contact them.
     
  3. lessd

    lessd Well-Known Member

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    I have the same drive as you and the same V14.9.2.2 and no reboots (except to install the new software) and no macro blocking so the problems you are having don't hit everybody, but only a few people have 14.9.2.2 now, so who knows what will happen when all the TPs get this update.
     
  4. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    so far I've not seen any issues with my three Premieres with 14.9.2.2
     
  5. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I've had hard drives die in several TiVos in the past and those are the exact symptoms I experience prior to their final death. I know the SMART reading said everything was fine, but I'm still betting the hard drive is on it's last leg.

    Dan
     
  6. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    It's the hard drive or cablecard. The Premiere is sensitive to bad cablecards for some reason and can have similar symptoms to hard drive failures. Either way, I don't think it is a direct result of the update (other than the new update uses a alternating partition that could be bad).
     
  7. hub

    hub New Member

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    You could be right. That's what I suspected initially, since I have had disks die in Series 1 and 2. When I get a chance, I'll pop in a Samsung 2TB and see where that leads me. Anybody had experience with WD drives window dressing their SMART outputs? I have had the opposite experience with Samsung HD204UI where SMART reports failure due to lots of raw read errors, but surface scan would pass with flying color, due to ECC I guess.
     
  8. Dr_Diablo

    Dr_Diablo Dr_Diablo

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    they/tivo should read posts here, at least it would save a lot of issues...

    doubt they really care one way or the other if there are issues or they would have addressed them once they develop rather then take months/years to correct
     
  9. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    TiVo won't help you. They'll take one look at your logs, notice that you upgraded the hard drive, and send you packing.
     

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