1 TB Hitachi Cinemastar - Ok for upgrade?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by routerspecialist, Jun 22, 2008.

  1. routerspecialist

    routerspecialist New Member

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    So, I have a 1 TB Hitachi Cinemastar. Does anyone have any experience using this drive to upgrade a Tivo Series 3? Any issues that anyone knows about?

    Any help would be appreciated!
     
  2. sschiltz

    sschiltz New Member

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    I just used that drive on a Tivo HD with no issues!
     
  3. flatcurve

    flatcurve New Member

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    Hitachi makes great drives. If you've got one, I wouldn't hesitate to use it at all.
     
  4. Gregor

    Gregor Wear Your Mask! TCF Club

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    I used it as an external upgrade in an Antec MX-1 case, no issues.
     
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  7. Clentz

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    It worked for me. I had been using it external and put it internal. Of interest was after I divorced it, I found that two recordings I had made (Both at the same time on different CH, OTA) were on different HDDs. One internal and one external. Now using just the 1TB internal.
    Carl
     
  8. jtown

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    The western digitals (WD10EACS-00xxxx) seem to work okay as external drives on the S3. There's a note about that in the eSATA FAQ. I took a shot and hooked one up with the Vantec case last night. I had to set it to ATA/150 mode, though, as none of the SATA ports on my computer (internal or external on two different controllers) recognized the drive when it was in ATA/300 mode while it was installed in the Vantec case. Neither did the S3. As soon as I set it to ATA/150, it worked perfectly. (The bare drive without the case showed up fine in ATA/300 mode when connected directly to the motherboard so I suspect there's something in the design of the case's circuitry that causes a problem with ATA/300 mode.)

    At any rate, my S3's internal drive is a Hitachi 1tb drive which has been in there for about a year and the external is a WD10EACS-00xxxx drive set to ATA/150 in a Vantec case and it seems to be working fine. Says something like up to 265 hours of HD recording.

    BTW, the Hitachi runs pretty darn hot. Always has. I had to wait a few minutes to pick up the drive after doing the initial transfer last year. I'd left it sitting on my desk by the computer and, without direct airflow, it was hot. I put a fan in front of it when I put it in the S3. Still runs pretty warm but not alarmingly so. The Western Digital 1tb drives I have barely even get warm. Maybe the Cinemastar runs cooler than the original Deskstar.
     
  9. tivoupgrade

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    It does. We use the Hitachi feature tool to quiet the Deskstar down and 'tune it' to the same settings that the CinemaStar has when it comes off the production line. This also keeps the drive running cooler.

    Lou
     
  10. routerspecialist

    routerspecialist New Member

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    Thanks to all who answered my question!
     
  11. jy3

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    I just picked up a Deskstar 7K500. After reviewing the spec sheets for the 1TB Deskstar, 1TB Cinemastar, and the drive I have, I can't find any significant differences in the acoustics.
    What should I tweak in the 500GB Deskstar?


    Thanks-
     
  12. jlib

    jlib Lean Forward

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    Unfortunately, Hitachi is making it more difficult to compare within their drive lines what with inconsistent or missing specs and such. In any case, your particular drive is an older model and is relatively noisy (even when idling). You will have to be the judge as to whether its sound level is acceptable but most certainly you will need to use Hitachi Feature Tool to attenuate seek noise.

    OK, so idle is the sound of the drive spinning, seek is the additional sound of the head seeking, silent seek is the detuned seek speed desirable for the TiVo since it is essentially constantly seeking.

    The 1TB Deskstar is 29dB idle, 30dB silent seek, and 32dB seek.

    The 1TB CinemaStar is 29dB idle, 30dB seek (which is really silent seek by default).

    By way of comparison, the WD Green 1TB has a silent seek level of 25dB (although it could be argued that inter-brand comparisons might not be valid without independent testing).

    Your 750GB Deskstar drive is from the era where pure performance was more important than noise level. In fact, they don't even publish the seek noise levels but your drive has a 31dB idle level so you can probably extrapolate an estimate of the seek levels. Hence my comment you will certainly need to detune the seek from its default 256 to 128 on the Feature Tool sliding scale.

    While on the subject of Hitachi, I see they are coming out with their own "green" line, designated with a ".B" suffix.
     
  13. jy3

    jy3 New Member

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    Thanks:up:
     
  14. trunksy

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    Any updates to this? I'm interested in the newer Cinemastar 7K1000.C drives.
     

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