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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by mattyro7878, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. mattyro7878

    mattyro7878 Active Member

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    The question is: on a non-activated Bolt, which acts fine as a cable box, full guide, buffers et al; does the roll back to Encore not work? i have tried the sequence and my only conclusion that it does not roll back is that the box is not activated (it does have a cablecard). Second item-- My Cox Contour box is szet to 1080i on my 4k Samsung tv. I can see flaws and lines in the CNN logo. I switch to my Roamio plus which is set to "auto" is smooth with no artifacts or lines in CNN's logo. Conclusion:: Roamio superior in video matters.
     
  2. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    With a Roamio, the resolution used by Auto is shown on the right side of the screen. I like the video output also.

    Another good test of "stepping" is the Discovery channel logo.

    Two reports of rollback failures. Perhaps they broke it again.
     
  3. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    I guess that I find this confusing: by "non-activated," do you mean without a subscription? And it somehow still functions as a TiVo box, with the Guide, etc.?
     
  4. mattyro7878

    mattyro7878 Active Member

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    yes. it is not activated with Tivo but has a cablecard and tuning adaptor. i was shocked at how much functionalty it has, like a non dvr cable box...full guide, all 4 directions work. but cant roll it back
     
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  5. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    Fascinating. Care to look at System Information? The values of TiVo Service Account Status and TiVo Service Level would be of interest.

    I have a Roamio in a box without service. If I could get it to be seen from other units it would be nice.
     
  6. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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    Cool. So for everybody that says, "I'll never get a Tivo because they charge for the guide", we can tell them Tivo doesn't charge for the guide, only for the DVR ;-)
     
  7. razor237

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    That's really odd, wonder if something has changed since they moved to the new guide system. In the past any of my boxes that i deactivated the box had the most basic functions and guide didn't work but this was a while ago
     
  8. kpeters59

    kpeters59 Well-Known Member

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    How long has it been "non-activated"?

    -KP
     
  9. PSU_Sudzi

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I was going to ask this also as I thought you ran out of guide data after ~2 weeks of no subscription.

    Edit: spelling
     
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  10. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    I'm going to guess that it was never activated and that it is still in it's initial free trial period.
     
  11. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    TiVo boxes now come with an "initial free trial period"? I thought that a TiVo box needed to be activated to work as such, but that one had 30 days to return it, if desired, and for a full refund (box + subscription).
     
  12. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    It is a bit confusing. However, if you buy a box from TiVo, it comes ready to go. You then have 30 days to give it back.
     
  13. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    Yep, understood--but you've paid for a subscription in that case (or it's already included in the initial purchase price in the case of a Roamio OTA), and the box already has been activated by TiVo "at the factory" as part of that, right?
     
  14. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    Right. My Roamio(s) and Mini(s) from TiVo had service. I've never had to call TiVo to "activate" any box. I have called to de-activate devices and those are still on my account's inactive tab.
     
  15. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    They started offering a two week free trial period on new never subscribed tivos in 1999. It was shortened to a week at some point and it may have been shortened again to just a few days.
     
  16. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    Is that something current/where do you see that--is there a source? I'm not aware of that at all right now, nor for the past many years.
     
  17. mattyro7878

    mattyro7878 Active Member

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    Actually this was my main box for a while, it has been non-activated for 3 or 4 months. Reverting back to encore may be something that requires a subscription.
     
  18. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

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    Seems like a Hydra bug to me. I assume you were paying a monthly or yearly subscription, upgraded to hydra and then canceled service. You could subscribe the Tivo again, rollback within the 30 day return period and then cancel the service again. My guess would be that if you rolled back to Encore and cancelled service you would not have the guide data or live buffers anymore.
     

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