A place to discuss Season Four, and any & all of the books. Spoilers allowed. We can discuss how the books compare to the TV series, changes between them, when we expect to see events from the books, or whatever.
It's very difficult to limit this to only Book Three, as the showrunners have stated they are going to start taking scenes from Books 4 & 5 and incorporating them into the TV series this season, in an effort to make the series flow better than the books. Therefore, all the books are open for discussion here.
As per the general agreement reached previously, the individual TV episode threads are off-limits to book discussion.
Or a spoiler site. A few others have been too spot on. No reason to call them out, though. As we can see from the show thread, others who don't want to be spoiled are still getting surprised. It is good they stay on the edge of their seats. I had the same reaction when reading book three and the Mountain killed Oberyn.
The difference between me and the show watchers was that I was still so fresh off of Rob and Joffrey's deaths I was certain Tyrion was going to die, also.
Myself, while I can see the heightened drama of finishing the episode with Tyrion being sentenced to death, It also telegraphs that he can likely survive.
Potato, Potatoe. Wiki's or spoiler sites.....what is the difference? He still has information on how the story unfolds and is till handing out spoilers like candy under the guise of "honest guessing".
Shouldnt he be chased by an anti-spoiler mob with torches and burned for it?
Well, I haven't read spoilers and have only read book one, so last night's ending was pretty shocking for me. I do follow this thread, though.
That being said, I think it's pretty obvious who comes to the rescue at Castle Black. They telegraphed it in an episode in Season 3 I believe. I'm still not going to post my speculation in the episode threads though it's truly an honest guess.
When Sansa told them her real name, I though it was going to go way off from the books. She never told them any of that, did she? But then if they keep it secret, I guess it wouldn't change anything. Even having read all the books, we don't really know what happens with her and Baelish anyway.
Also, I don't think Arya got that close to the Eyrie when they found out that Lysa was dead. But since no one outside knows that Sansa is there, I suppose they'll just leave. The Hound seems a little better.....Those 2 are so good together, I'm sure they hate to kill him off. The producers aren't nearly as cold hearted as GRRM in killing people off.
When Sansa told them her real name, I though it was going to go way off from the books. She never told them any of that, did she? But then if they keep it secret, I guess it wouldn't change anything. Even having read all the books, we don't really know what happens with her and Baelish anyway.
Also, I don't think Arya got that close to the Eyrie when they found out that Lysa was dead. But since no one outside knows that Sansa is there, I suppose they'll just leave. The Hound seems a little better.....Those 2 are so good together, I'm sure they hate to kill him off. The producers aren't nearly as cold hearted as GRRM in killing people off.
Arya just left because after the Hound dies in the books she really has no other direction. I really don't recall if she heard her aunt was dead or not.
As to the Hound living on in the TV show, I think we got our setup for his death pretty much set in place.
I am assuming that all actors must have a nudity clause in their contract (both male and female.) I find it interesting that some of the actresses often don't appear nude until well after they have joined the show.
Potato, Potatoe. Wiki's or spoiler sites.....what is the difference? He still has information on how the story unfolds and is till handing out spoilers like candy under the guise of "honest guessing".
Shouldnt he be chased by an anti-spoiler mob with torches and burned for it?
The problem is you can't call out those people (on the forums) because doing so validates their "guesses" and is itself a spoiler. You could PM them if you want.
Also, it is not impossible that it was a real guess. A prison break and leaving the area is actually fairly plausible. Either Tyrion dies, or else he somehow gets out of prison. They did have that scene with Tyrion and Varys recently, so thinking that Varys might help is a reasonable guess. Then someone as recognizable as Tyrion can hardly stay near by after he escapes.
Also, it is not impossible that it was a real guess. A prison break and leaving the area is actually fairly plausible. Either Tyrion dies, or else he somehow gets out of prison. They did have that scene with Tyrion and Varys recently, so thinking that Varys might help is a reasonable guess. Then someone as recognizable as Tyrion can hardly stay near by after he escapes.
Maybe Varys will break him out of the dungeon and he becomes a fugitive.
Maybe he can hook up with Ser. Jorah and they become The Cisco Kid and Pancho.
Is a little too on the nose while at the same time being just enough off if he wanted it to appear as a guess. If he described just the breakout, ok. The fact that he would make the leap that Jorah and Tyrion, on two different continents, somehow come into contact is what puts this over the edge, imo.
Is a little too on the nose while at the same time being just enough off if he wanted it to appear as a guess. If he described just the breakout, ok. The fact that he would make the leap that Jorah and Tyrion, on two different continents, somehow come into contact is what puts this over the edge, imo.
Jorah can stay out of sight and quietly help Dany and her entourage from behind the trees, until she realizes that her luck is too good and figures out who her benefactor is.
I should write these things (but I know I've seen such before.)
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