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Lost - "The End" 5/23 series finale (spoilers)

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#1 ·
What an awesome episode!!!!!!!

Ok, it actually doesn't start for 1 hour. :)

Here it comes!
 
#227 ·
I am going to go with the theory that they weren't dead on the island. The sideways life was what they could have been if they weren't flawed and I am not sure if they even went to purgatory or if they just finally were able to merge the two lifes and live the one together where they have each other and all is good.
 
#229 ·
Wow, incredible! I loved it and was completely satisfied with the ending. Sure, there were some questions that weren't answered, but so what? Most, I can fill in the blanks myself. In the end, it was as emotional and epic as anything this show has ever done. What more can one ask for in an ending? And Jack dying in the same place he started - doubly incredible!
 
#230 ·
Without reading what anyone else thought, if I had to sum up the finale in one word: fan-f**kin-tastic. One of the best, if not THE best, episodes of TV I've ever seen. I will miss this series. :(

I bet many will disagree about the very last scenes, but I thought it was amazing. I'm a big weepie, so I was sobbing through the last 10 minutes of the show.

Now off to read what everyone else thought, and see how bad the episode really was. ;)
 
#231 ·
Lipidis, Miles, and Richard not being there lend some support (in my mind) to the theory that they've been dead since the beginning due to the fact that none of them were on Oceanic 815.
Nut as someone said, wasn't Juliet there? Penny? Shoot, even Desmond was not on the original flight. He was already on the island and caused the crash.

Harold Perrineau on Kimmel says he thinks Michael is doomed to haunt the island as a whisper forever--not that the actor would know. I'm not sure why Michael wouldn't get the redemption that others did.
Maybe he was deemed as not being important enough to the others? After all he was not on the island that long and oh yeah, there was the whole murder of 2 women issue.
 
#234 ·
Supposedly the DVDs and Blu-Rays will have an additional 20 minutes of finale footage. I might as well order my copy now.... :up:
Just a minor correction. It isn't footage from the finale, but completely new filmed footage, all to answer additional questions they couldn't fit in the show. I'm hoping they do the outrigger one. The Dharma drop and the Hurleybird are dead-ringers as those are the questions they've previously hinted they'll answer.
 
#237 ·
This thread sucks.

There's a reason that there is a rule against starting a thread before the show ends. It's to prevent the thread from being a "chat" "hey, look at that" which is meaningless when read later.
Not that it matters, but the rule is against starting a thread earlier than 1 hour before the show starts, which is why jkeegan started it when he did (exactly 1 hour before the EDT start time).

I kinda enjoy the ongoing commentary too.
 
#238 ·
I wouldn't spoil Kimmel until his show airs on the West Coast, for what it's worth. This thread should really only be about Lost for another couple hours.

There are people on the West Coast and in Alaska/Hawaii that may want to browse the thread while they are waiting for Kimmel to start.
 
#239 ·
I thought the finale was excellent. To those that say they hated it and season 6 made seasons 1-5 irrelevant. Think about it this way.

The writers always said it was about the people and their experiences and lives together, the island was secondary, the island was just sort of where it all happened and made things even more interesting.

Season 6 doesn't happen or make sense without seasons 1-5. Those connections and relationships between the characters would have never been built and the ghosts/spirits at the end would have no reason to wait for each other.
 
#240 ·
Harold Perrineau on Kimmel says he thinks Michael is doomed to haunt the island as a whisper forever--not that the actor would know. I'm not sure why Michael wouldn't get the redemption that others did.
Michael will team up with Ben in a new sideways spinoff called "After-L*O*S*T"
 
#242 ·
Loved it!

The finale didn't try to do everything. But what it did try to do, it accomplished exceedingly well.

I was even touched at Sayid and Shannon reuniting, and I always thought they were a horrible couple.

I think folks are using a little too much revisionist history if looking back they're saying it was all about the human characters and the island mythology was secondary.
Here's part of my post from the 5/17/06 episode:

One camp believes the main thing is the island mystery, and the characters are there to forward that plot.

The other camp (to which I mostly belong) think the main thing is the character study, and the island mystery is secondary, although still important. ...
I'd weight it 60% character driven, 40% plot driven.
I didn't get a lot right about this show, but in the end, I think the 60/40 split holds up pretty well.

What about Helen? What about Nadia?
Although Locke and Sayid thought they were the most important people in their lives, at the end of the day, they simply weren't.

Jack was not the last to die. Don't confuse what they showed on the island. He just happened to be the last to remember.
In other words, he was the last to "let go."

I liked it when Locke said "Jack, I am surprised. I mean you are the obvious choice".
My favorite line of the night.
 
#243 ·
Didn't Christian say the Losties created the sideways world as a place they could meet and help each other move on to whatever comes next? So, do the other (non-Lostie) people in the sideways world not exist? Hurley seemed to think Ana Lucia was real, she just wasn't ready to go yet. Desmond seemed to think Daniel and his mom were real people as well. Did they help to build the world too? If they didn't help build it and they are real people, why are they there? Who helps these other people move on? What about bad people like Keamy--are they real? (Why isn't Keamy stuck on the island as a whisper?) And I'm still stuck on where are other loved ones like Ji-Yeon and Aaron? Other family members? And I can't accept that Shannon is Sayid's true love--it was Nadia.

I'm really struggling with this. So glad I'm not working Monday.
 
#244 ·
1. Someone else at least hinted at this, but I think Ben didn't want to go in because he's waiting for Alex. One thing I would change about this episode would be to have Ben say something about having someone left to wait for.

2. No one from the freighter was at the church, right? Wonder what happens to Miles. He became one of my favorites.

3. Stained glass window in the church was interesting. A cross, crescent, Start of David, yin/yang, ... and a donkey wheel.
 
#245 ·
I had predicted weeks ago that Hugo was going to be the next guardian of the island. I knew it was just too easy when Jack took the reins. I loved that Hugo asked Ben to help. That's all Ben ever really wanted, was to take care of the island. He wasn't good enough to be #1 but I think he would make a great #2.
This!

A lot of filler in this episode. I have to agree it seems like they made some of this up as it went along or at some point in the middle when they planned the number of episodes left. No way the original story arc had this ending.
Well, yeah. They were making an ongoing series that the networked hoped to extend many seasons - of course they had to keep making stuff up! I am pretty sure that they had a basic idea of the end game, and that when they also had an end date in mind, they got the rest of the story together. The last couple of seasons have felt very coherent and purposeful.

The island [story] is [something we can make crap loads of money on in a sequel so we shouldn't give away everything]. Questions Answered [in another 5-6 years].

There - I fixed it for you.
They'd be foolish not to leave hooks for future "Lost"-related projects.

What a horrible, steaming pile of garbage. The series would have been far better ending at the episode prior to this one. Because even the most meager imaginations provide for a better ending than this. For all this episode did to bring any kind of relevance to six years of this, it may as well have ended like that infamous season of Dallas began... except that might have been more satisfying itself.
I really do not get why someone who feels like this even bothered to watch this show before. Half the series (flashbacks/flashforwards/flash-sideways) have been almost-unheard-of-for-TV character based. They have obviously been tied into the island mystery (especially the last season), but the main focus has been to build a solid emotional ground for the characters we see in the island storyline.

That this part of the show, which was always incredibly important and made the show different from a lot of similar shows, seems to have been ignored or despised by so many that apparently watched the show, is hard for me to understand.
Awful - just awful. Not a single question answered in this episode.

What exactly is the smoke monster?
What is the light on the island?
What exactly would have happened to the world if the Man In Black had escaped the island? Clearly since he could be (and was) killed like any normal man after Desmond turned off the light, his leaving couldn't have affected anything.

The sideways reality - meaningless. Who cares about some fantasy/purgatory reality that happened after everyone died? What does that add to the experience of the characters? Nothing.

The only thing this ending did is make me feel a little better about how badly Battlestar Galactica ended - because at least it wasn't as bad as this.
Seriously? Did you also come away from "The Phantom menace" upset that Lucas didn't delve more into exactly HOW the Midichlorians communicated with the Force? And why didn't he explain WHAT the Force is? And in "Raiders of the Lost ark", I can't believe there wasn't an explanation exactly of HOW God knew to kill Nazis and WHY it was enough to close your eyes to escape death?

As for the stuff about the characters, see my previous paragraph. If you didn't care about what happened to these characters, I can't figure out why you watched the show.

Wow. No sir. You need to watch again. The island was real.
This episode, like the Jacob/MIB centric one a couple of weeks ago, were some of the most straightforward "Lost" episodes there have been. I am not sure why people think they were dead on the island the whole time.
 
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