What an awesome episode!!!!!!!
Ok, it actually doesn't start for 1 hour.
Here it comes!
Ok, it actually doesn't start for 1 hour.
Here it comes!
It wasnt purgatory. It doesn't fit the theological definition and the writers have said that it wasn't.They all set aside time in purgatory
Nut as someone said, wasn't Juliet there? Penny? Shoot, even Desmond was not on the original flight. He was already on the island and caused the crash.Lipidis, Miles, and Richard not being there lend some support (in my mind) to the theory that they've been dead since the beginning due to the fact that none of them were on Oceanic 815.
Maybe he was deemed as not being important enough to the others? After all he was not on the island that long and oh yeah, there was the whole murder of 2 women issue.Harold Perrineau on Kimmel says he thinks Michael is doomed to haunt the island as a whisper forever--not that the actor would know. I'm not sure why Michael wouldn't get the redemption that others did.
I agree, it was more like limbo, but not really that either. I'm sure someone can come up with a more proper term.It wasnt purgatory. It doesn't fit the theological definition and the writers have said that it wasn't.
And that the universe was "broken" due to the detonation of the bomb and they had to fix it to resolve the flash-sideways alternate reality?Hey Rob,
Still 100% sure that Desmond was trying to kill Locke when he hit him with the car, and that everyone who disagrees is an idiot?
Just a minor correction. It isn't footage from the finale, but completely new filmed footage, all to answer additional questions they couldn't fit in the show. I'm hoping they do the outrigger one. The Dharma drop and the Hurleybird are dead-ringers as those are the questions they've previously hinted they'll answer.Supposedly the DVDs and Blu-Rays will have an additional 20 minutes of finale footage. I might as well order my copy now.... :up:
No, the writers said the island wasn't purgatory. They never commented on the flash-sideways. I think it's pretty clear that it's a purgatory-like place.It wasn't purgatory. It doesn't fit the theological definition and the writers have said that it wasn't.
Me too. Literally, YELLING at the TV. I only do that during sports. Amazing ending to an amazing series.Well I just spent 2 1/2 hours laughing, crying, yelling at the tv and cheering.
Not that it matters, but the rule is against starting a thread earlier than 1 hour before the show starts, which is why jkeegan started it when he did (exactly 1 hour before the EDT start time).This thread sucks.
There's a reason that there is a rule against starting a thread before the show ends. It's to prevent the thread from being a "chat" "hey, look at that" which is meaningless when read later.
Michael will team up with Ben in a new sideways spinoff called "After-L*O*S*T"Harold Perrineau on Kimmel says he thinks Michael is doomed to haunt the island as a whisper forever--not that the actor would know. I'm not sure why Michael wouldn't get the redemption that others did.
Yes, the writers found a loophole that let them shove the purgatory angle in there. :down:No, the writers said the island wasn't purgatory. They never commented on the flash-sideways. I think it's pretty clear that it's a purgatory-like place.
Here's part of my post from the 5/17/06 episode:I think folks are using a little too much revisionist history if looking back they're saying it was all about the human characters and the island mythology was secondary.
I didn't get a lot right about this show, but in the end, I think the 60/40 split holds up pretty well.One camp believes the main thing is the island mystery, and the characters are there to forward that plot.
The other camp (to which I mostly belong) think the main thing is the character study, and the island mystery is secondary, although still important. ...
I'd weight it 60% character driven, 40% plot driven.
Although Locke and Sayid thought they were the most important people in their lives, at the end of the day, they simply weren't.What about Helen? What about Nadia?
In other words, he was the last to "let go."Jack was not the last to die. Don't confuse what they showed on the island. He just happened to be the last to remember.
My favorite line of the night.I liked it when Locke said "Jack, I am surprised. I mean you are the obvious choice".
This!I had predicted weeks ago that Hugo was going to be the next guardian of the island. I knew it was just too easy when Jack took the reins. I loved that Hugo asked Ben to help. That's all Ben ever really wanted, was to take care of the island. He wasn't good enough to be #1 but I think he would make a great #2.
Well, yeah. They were making an ongoing series that the networked hoped to extend many seasons - of course they had to keep making stuff up! I am pretty sure that they had a basic idea of the end game, and that when they also had an end date in mind, they got the rest of the story together. The last couple of seasons have felt very coherent and purposeful.A lot of filler in this episode. I have to agree it seems like they made some of this up as it went along or at some point in the middle when they planned the number of episodes left. No way the original story arc had this ending.
They'd be foolish not to leave hooks for future "Lost"-related projects.The island [story] is [something we can make crap loads of money on in a sequel so we shouldn't give away everything]. Questions Answered [in another 5-6 years].
There - I fixed it for you.
I really do not get why someone who feels like this even bothered to watch this show before. Half the series (flashbacks/flashforwards/flash-sideways) have been almost-unheard-of-for-TV character based. They have obviously been tied into the island mystery (especially the last season), but the main focus has been to build a solid emotional ground for the characters we see in the island storyline.What a horrible, steaming pile of garbage. The series would have been far better ending at the episode prior to this one. Because even the most meager imaginations provide for a better ending than this. For all this episode did to bring any kind of relevance to six years of this, it may as well have ended like that infamous season of Dallas began... except that might have been more satisfying itself.
Seriously? Did you also come away from "The Phantom menace" upset that Lucas didn't delve more into exactly HOW the Midichlorians communicated with the Force? And why didn't he explain WHAT the Force is? And in "Raiders of the Lost ark", I can't believe there wasn't an explanation exactly of HOW God knew to kill Nazis and WHY it was enough to close your eyes to escape death?Awful - just awful. Not a single question answered in this episode.
What exactly is the smoke monster?
What is the light on the island?
What exactly would have happened to the world if the Man In Black had escaped the island? Clearly since he could be (and was) killed like any normal man after Desmond turned off the light, his leaving couldn't have affected anything.
The sideways reality - meaningless. Who cares about some fantasy/purgatory reality that happened after everyone died? What does that add to the experience of the characters? Nothing.
The only thing this ending did is make me feel a little better about how badly Battlestar Galactica ended - because at least it wasn't as bad as this.
This episode, like the Jacob/MIB centric one a couple of weeks ago, were some of the most straightforward "Lost" episodes there have been. I am not sure why people think they were dead on the island the whole time.Wow. No sir. You need to watch again. The island was real.
This has to be the best comment EVER!!! lolIt was a TV show, not a documentary.
Check out seasons 1 to 6.Ok, I get that, but still, I think it left too many questions that I think they didn't have an answer to. They all set aside time in purgatory because of this great event in their lives, but we know nothing about why it was such a big event.
Yeah sadly the ending seemed like the writers getting lazy. I enjoyed the episode up to the last few minutes and the ending fell flat.Yes, the writers found a loophole that let them shove the purgatory angle in there. :down:
Yes. And in the (non-canonical?) mobi-sodes, Christian sent Vincent to wake Jack up saying, "We've got work to do."I'm trying to remember - in the pilot, did the dog find Jack in the bamboo forest?