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Heroes "Powerless" OAD:12-3-2007

17K views 227 replies 97 participants last post by  Bai Shen 
#1 ·
I knew Nathan was a goner....
 
#77 ·
I think some people here are taking the show way too seriously. It's a TV Show. Every TV show on the planet has a number of these same kind of inconsistencies. The biggest offender I can think of off the top of my head is ST:TNG. Aside from Micah's sojourn in New Orleans, this was a good episode. I'd like to see them move that forward tremendously but I'm afraid were going to get half a season of Micah and his cousin blaming themselves for what's-her-name's death.

All that said:
Why on earth is the penalty for breaking into someone's house to retrieve stolen property the blowing up of an entire building?
Well, he was probably burning it down for either an insurance claim or he's in the protection racket. Either way, to leave a body there is just plain stupid. You don't want *anything* that can even remotely be traced back to you.

But, then again, that "character" (and I'm using the term very loosely) was not shown to be the brightest star in the constellation.
 
#78 ·
I was thinking yesterday that the BSG episode was just ok, but still had a lot of enjoyable moments and I was glad it was shown. Then I watched this and realized how much further heroes has fallen than BSG. This whole arc was riddled with plot holes, and the characters have become increasingly stupid to the point that I really think the writers have no idea how to write a show about heroes in control of their superpowers. They did a great job writing about heroes who barely could control their powers. But we're well past that and now we have them having to behave really unintelligently because the writers are too cowardly to go where the storylines ought to go.

The last 20 minutes of this episode was some of the weakest writing I've seen on TV this season, and I say that as someone who still watches bionic woman! The little ending with nathan could only have happened if he made a speech so ambiguous and vaporous that it meant nothing until his reveal, which was painfully long in the coming. How about next time you start floating immediately and talk about actual powers instead of "people have a secret and I'm going to tell it now! It's a big secret. Somewhere around the size of jupiter, but not as big as the milky way. If I had to say what color the secret is, it would be mauve. I've had the secret for 2 years 16 months 23 days 8 hours and 7 minutes. I think I first learned it shortly after getting a haircut at the barber shop on 18th street near the bank."

Is there really any point to sylar anymore? His very existence just makes the show weaker and weaker. Apparently we are just going to have a little rerun of season 1 now.

What was with peter blowing up the virus about 2 feet from his brother and then letting the virus dust blow away into the air around them? Sure, we can assume the virus would be destroyed in the real world, but not in the world of heroes where the dust blows away in the godsend pattern and is uber dangerous.

The saddest of all is that I cared more about the micah plot in this episode than any of the others.
 
#81 ·
I think Peter has too much power. If he ever learns Micah's ability he'll be like every comic book hero and villain rolled up into one.

I still can't get over the fact that Maya accompanied Syler as he broke into Mohinder's house and then started cooking like Rachel Ray. Since when is that appropriate behavior during a break-in and hostage situation.

How did Hiro locate an empty, buried coffin? Did Hiro also have to fit in there in order to deposit Adam?

Did Ali Larter get another job or something? Seemed like a cold blooded way to get rid of her character.
They didn't break in. Sylar said that he convinced the babysitter to leave. And I don't think he used the gun to convince her, or she would have called the cops.

Hiro could have just teleported right into the coffin. Would have had to be a pretty big one, since Hiro is not really slender. Of course, he could have teleported beside the coffin, but since he doesn't have DL's ability that would be a sticky situation, to say the least. So he must have teleported inside (as tight a squeeze as it would be, then teleported out.

I can't take Nikki's death for granted, until I see Ali Larter's name attached to another project.
 
#82 ·
Molly most definitely knew Sylar - he slaughtered her parents (we see the crime scene in the second episode of season one, the episode that introduces Matt Parkman) and (as mentioned) the finale of season one had Molly finding 'The Bad Man' (Sylar, from memory) only to realize he was nearby. Not to mention that (pretty much) all the surviving Heroes from Season 1 were in Kirby Plaza.

Personally, I think you guys fail to 'appreciate' (OK, maybe not the best choice of words) the fact that Heroes is (classic) comic-book storytelling and logic. Basically, the plots, characters and situations will always be somewhat cornball. Factoring this into my expectations, I think Heroes is quite enjoyable (it's corniness is almost endearing to me).

I actually thought this Volume was superior to Volume One (which totally trailed off in the end for me). Though yes, I didn't like the way this Volume started (4 months in the future? wack!)
 
#83 ·
What an lame ending...:down:

When Silar shot Maya, I was SO happy. Then they had to bring her back. What a waste of good blood...

Instead they sacrifice Nikki and Nathan. Ugh...

Cheryl
 
#84 ·
I'm surprised that I'm the first to suggest this, but perhaps the shooter was West, intentionally dressed to resemble Noah. Remember, his reaction to Claire's plan to tell all was not exactly positive. And his conversation with her before he flew off did leave me wondering whether The Company had gotten to me in the interim.

Neither is HRG.

It looked like Sylar, but then we saw him elsewhere in the next scene. It must be somebody we know, however, or they wouldn't have been so careful to avoid showing his face.

By the way, although I continue to like this season a hell of a lot more than many of you, I agree with most of the logic complaints surrounding the assault on Primatech. And I think they were too pervasive to all be the result of the last-minute re-write. I thought at the end of last season that Peter was just too powerful to be an interesting or useful character...at first this season, it looked like they were de-powering him, but now that he's back to full force, he has become a serious storytelling liability again.
 
#86 ·
I wonder if that was an intentional homage to the Alias finale? That was the very first thing that I thought of.
Damn, I was about to smeek that same thought when I saw your post. Yes, Arvin Sloan and Adam Monroe both met the same fate. And in both cases they are immortal and eternity is a very long time. So long that the earth will change quite a bit, and neither will ever really be buried for all eternity. They'll be back, and maybe they'll team up this time!
 
#87 ·
I'm surprised that I'm the first to suggest this, but perhaps the shooter was West, intentionally dressed to resemble Noah. Remember, his reaction to Claire's plan to tell all was not exactly positive. And his conversation with her before he flew off did leave me wondering whether The Company had gotten to me in the interim.
In one scene Bob says he will have to do something to get Claire to keep quiet and in the next scene West shows up at her house telling her he is there to stop her from leaving. At that point I was convinced that West was working for Bob, so I would not be surprised if he was the one that shot Nathan.
 
#89 ·
I guess Mohinder must be the Barney Ruble of scientist since he bothers to find out the exact strain of virus Sylar has and happens to have the cure with him. How bout this “Sylar lets not do any of this pesky testing. I have the cure you need right here. Don’t worry that the label on the bottle says Draino, now just roll up your sleeve…”
 
#90 ·
Does anyone actually think Niki and Nathan are going to be dead when the show comes back?
Anything is possible now that they have Claire and Peter whose blood can cure anything. However, Nikki was inside the building when a large explosion destroyed it. I don't think she's walking away from that one.

Just curious...

Nikki, Jessica, et al are personalities that were manifesting themselves prior to the 'event' that made all the heroes become aware of their powers, right? Her power is the super strength power. Can any of the personalities use the power?
 
#93 ·
I will say, I got a good laugh out of seeing Parkman riding on Nathan's back for half a second, which was immediately followed by Parkman saying 'Let's never talk about that again'.

Even if the overall episode was ho-hum for me, that one line was worth a good laugh. :)
 
#95 ·
So did Adam Monroe know that Kaito was Hiro's father?

When did he know it?

From the moment he met Kaito? If so, why didn't he say something? When he saw Hiro appear again?

This aspect is really full of holes.
You are looking for holes that aren't there. Adam spent YEARS with the group prior to being locked up and then THIRTY YEARS in their custody. He couldn't find out Hiro was Kaito's son? And who said he never said anything?

No hole whatsoever.
 
#96 ·
Peter is just plain stupid. He is like Barney Rubble with superpowers.
Bingo! What a character does and doesn't do is debatable about the character but to assume it is bad writing is a bad assumption. Not everyone does the same thing as everyone else. Peter is not very swift on strategy. That has been proven over and over again.

And he almost has to be. Otherwise, he is unbeatable. Peter has the Superman problem. How do you make it that every story doesn't end in 3 seconds. The guy can heal, he has telekenesis (sp?), he can stop time and time/space travel, he can go nuke, he can throw lightning from his hands, he can walk through walls, he can fly, he can read minds, he can (presumably) eat brains, he can be very persuasive (his mom's ability).....

So he is stupid to make up for it.
 
#98 ·
How did Hiro locate an empty, buried coffin? Did Hiro also have to fit in there in order to deposit Adam?
Why does everything need to be 100% spelled out? The guy can BEND TIME! He could have gone off, stored Adam somewhere, gone and bought a coffin, dug the hole himself, put it in the ground, go back and get Adam.

All in what seemed like a second.

Hiro is a bit smarter than Peter.
 
#99 ·
You can't regenerate something if it continued to die. At best he can be in a constant state of flux -- cells dying from lack of oxygen, then regenerated because of his abilities. But he still needs the building blocks, if you will, of oxygen, water, fuel. You cannot generate energy, you can only change matter to energy and back. He is in a closed system where his body is using up resources (oxygen, water, food) with no ability to recreate those resources. Regeneration is simply replacing dead cells/organs with new ones, but without the resources to rebuild them, he's stuck. Sure, he will last longer than the average Joe, but forever? I'm not buying it.
But you buy that pumping blood into a guy who has a bullet in his brain brings him back to life?
 
#101 ·
I'm not sure I like that using Claire's blood will heal people. It opens up an easy out. Oops.. you were chopped into 500 peices, but claire's blood will fix you right up.

What happens if Claire donates blood at a blood drive. ;)
 
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