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The Expanse - S03E07- Delta-V - 05/23/2018

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#1 ·
Arguably, three people lost their heads this episode.

So "Eros" has left Venus, moved out to beyond Uranus, and become "The Ring".
Yes, it looks like a giant Stargate (and could be a prelude to an invasion).

And that was an interesting version of Highway Star that the racer was playing.
Belter version?
 
#3 · (Edited)
Jeff Bezos announces Amazon is picking up 'The Expanse' also echoes the above and has a tweet from Cas Avanar w/Jeff Bezos talking. YAY!!!!

That said, this ep was a real let down to me compared to some of the earlier eps in this season. And, I really didn't like the headbanger guy. Was he in the books?

I also had no idea that the nervous woman planting the explosives was
Clarissa Mao (TV)
until I stumbled across it the other day.
 
#9 ·
Yes, the racing guy who decided to fly thru the ring and lost his head. See? "Headbanger guy" was specific enough. :D
That whole scene reminded me a lot of the Epstein scene from season 2. Both guys flying solo. Both guys who gained fame at their time of death. The filmography of had a similar feel. The difference for me was in the personality of the pilot. I didn't care for the headbanger guy either, but I did like Epstein.

Any physics guys handy? Shouldn't such a rapid change in velocity have also crumpled the racer's ship?
 
#11 ·
It was a human-built ship, and I'm sure one of our physics types could make an educated guess as to how fast it was traveling before and after it encountered the ring, based on what we were shown during the episode. From that you could calculate the forces that the pilot was subjected to.

I suppose the racing ship (including the pilot's chair and restraint system) was only designed to withstand acceleration in one direction. If you want to slow down, you rotate 180 and then slow down. So it's designed to support his head moving forward, but not backward.
 
#14 ·
Something can move a great distance, consistent with our physics, even with people on it. It's acceleration that you have to limit if you want to keep humans alive. Perhaps the protomolecule is capable of engineering relatively mild acceleration, yet applying it for a long duration. You could build up a lot of velocity and still not pulp the humans and tech.
 
#15 ·
What propulsion system did Eros use?

Also, if you recall, the Rocinante had to initiate a high G burn to try and catch up and they couldn't maintain an even acceleration curve with Eros, let alone a superior one. And it was taxing a trained space crew beyond their physical limits.

The point is, The Ring probably has similar unknown "technology".
 
#21 ·
They're the authors, they can make up anything they want. They could have inertia dampened by invisible flying turtles if they wanted to. That's just stating the obvious, isn't it?

I'm sorry if I thought you might want to take the discussion further, as to whether or not the authors might have further developed the concept, and what it might be. Part of the fun of discussing these shows is speculation.
 
#23 · (Edited)
In the books, do they skip/gloss over Earth and Mars having a treaty/truce like the show does? Are there any sort of reparations or concessions between the two sides or do both side just say stop fighting and call it even/good?

How about Sorrento-Gillis stepping down and Errinwright being put on trial for treason?

Do the books cover the 2 million dead on Earth from the nuke that got thru?

How about the ships that took sides in the Souther vs. Nguyen battle?
 
#25 ·
In the books...
Everything you've mentioned was altered from the original novel (Caliban's War) It simply did not happen.

Hard to explain unless you've read the books. The Expanse novels are told through character POV. (Leviathan Wakes, is told exclusively through Hoden and Miller POV only) So you don't get a sense of the larger picture until they do exposition dumps. It's what the TV show does far better than the novels- finishing the world-building and telling the larger story.
 
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#26 ·
It's also worth noting that the TV seasons don't always start & end at the same place as the books. And usually each new book starts with the implicit assumption that some time has passed since the end of the last one. So some big picture things that are naturally assumed to have been resolved "off-screen" between books seem like loose ends when moving to the next story in mid-season.
 
#30 ·
In the books, do they skip/gloss over Earth and Mars having a treaty/truce like the show does? Are there any sort of reparations or concessions between the two sides or do both side just say stop fighting and call it even/good?

How about Sorrento-Gillis stepping down and Errinwright being put on trial for treason?

Do the books cover the 2 million dead on Earth from the nuke that got thru?

How about the ships that took sides in the Souther vs. Nguyen battle?
Kinda - recommend you read the books!
Honestly - even with a series renewal via Amazon, I don't think everything will get 'filmed" ...
Even tho I read them all to date a year back, its still fun watching it unspool week by week, and seeing what decisions are made for the TV presentation of the stories.
 
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