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Old 06-16-2014, 10:48 PM   #1
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24: Live Another Day "6:00 pm - 7:00 pm" OAD 6/16/14

I can't believe they didn't give Heller a silent clock.
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Old 06-16-2014, 11:52 PM   #2
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I can't believe they didn't give Heller a silent clock.
I was thinking the same thing. Made me wonder if he's really dead.
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I was thinking the same thing. Made me wonder if he's really dead.
First thing I noticed. I assume he is not dead.
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Old 06-17-2014, 01:19 AM   #4
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Good thing they got the gate codes for Wembley Stadium. There's no way they could have gotten to the field otherwise. The helicopter parking lot is inconveniently placed.
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I don't see how he could not be dead. They had the drone camera on him until the second of impact, he's all alone out in the middle of the pitch, and the missile destroyed the entire center of the field. Jack clearly didn't have any cool plans to get him out ("dammit! there's a trapdoor in center field! I'll set up a perimeter to obscure their view!"), and they set it up with the whole Alzheimer's thing.

It will be completely ridiculous if he's not dead.

But I agree, no silent clock seems like a bit of a slap in the face.
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It will be completely ridiculous if he's not dead.
Dammit. Not on 24! They had a permiter setup and everything.
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Old 06-17-2014, 07:55 AM   #7
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Here's why I think President Heller is NOT dead:

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I searched and cannot find any listing for a cast member for role of the Vice President.

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Old 06-17-2014, 08:27 AM   #8
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Here's why I think President Heller is NOT dead:

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I searched and cannot find any listing for a cast member for role of the Vice President.
Pure speculation: I wonder if Chloe was able to get into their system and interrupt the video feed with a delayed feed, or something like that.

If I were the greensman at Wembly I'd be PISSED.
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If I were the greensman at Wembly I'd be PISSED.

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It keeps getting better:

1) Jack was shown into the president's office while carrying a bag containing weapons. Right.

2) "We found a disk drive". Really? A disk drive? Do they not have editors on this show?

3) As pointed out above - gate codes for the stadium but they were flying in.

4) A one-punch knockout to the jaw. Sorry - that's about a one in a hundred shot. Down maybe, but not out. And if out, not for more than a few seconds.

5) If I were the CIA station chief (not to mention a mole), I'd certainly pick an accomplice who looks like he's straight out of terrorist central casting, wouldn't you?

6) I always get a kick out of someone who tells his hostage to stand up to question him when he had a huge upper hand with the hostage on the ground.

Okay, I'll stop now. It's 24 after all
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They sure do like CGI now.

Only 4 episodes left, and still no time jump.

Poor Audrey. She was catatonic before, maybe she'll finally stay with Jack? Nahhhh.

Ooh... Kotaku posted this earlier. Funny as hell.

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Pure speculation: I wonder if Chloe was able to get into their system and interrupt the video feed with a delayed feed, or something like that.
The non-silent clock, plus Chloe commenting on the two other streams that she was "closer" to figuring out makes me agree here. Chloe was able to do something to the drone video feed that "faked" Heller being there and the facial recognition. Will be a little disappointed if this is the case (a Chloe "super-hacker in mere seconds, let again), but it is 24...


Nit: I think I remember them saying to take the drone down to 20K feet. Assuming 1000 mph for the missile (which appears to be ballpark for a hellfire), then would take about 15 seconds between launch and detonation. In both the last two eps, the drone missiles struck nearly instantaneously from launch...

I usually don't care about these types of details, but for whatever reason, this bothered me.
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Old 06-17-2014, 10:40 AM   #13
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3) As pointed out above - gate codes for the stadium but they were flying in.
I assume the gate code was for the stadium gate, not the parking lot gate. They weren't landing the helo inside the stadium.
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Old 06-17-2014, 10:49 AM   #14
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Obviously there was trap door where the president was standing and it opened up at the right time
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Old 06-17-2014, 02:44 PM   #18
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4) A one-punch knockout to the jaw. Sorry - that's about a one in a hundred shot. Down maybe, but not out. And if out, not for more than a few seconds.
That's why after he dragged him out of Heller's sight, Jack slit his throat.
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That's why after he dragged him out of Heller's sight, Jack slit his throat.

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Silly question but do the real presidents have transponders implanted? My brain can't seem to let this one go.
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Silly question but do the real presidents have transponders implanted? My brain can't seem to let this one go.
If they do, I doubt they advertise that fact.
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If they do, I doubt they advertise that fact.
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I assume the gate code was for the stadium gate, not the parking lot gate. They weren't landing the helo inside the stadium.
Which raises a whole OTHER question
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Recap posted at my blog.

* Jack Bauer sure found his respect for the President quickly. Last time he was in the room with the President, he didn't even bother to stand. Now he's referring to him as "Mr. President" or "Sir" and says "I'll do whatever you ask of me."

* That was a funny line when Jack was cutting the transponder out of the President's arm(!), and the President commented that Jack had done enough damage as a federal agent; it was a good thing he hadn't become a surgeon. If "24" were more intentionally campy, this would've been a great opportunity for Jack to say, "Dammit, I'm an agent, not a doctor!"

* I would've expected the President to get some kind of suicide capsule, just in case al-Harazi had in mind to capture and torture him.

* I realize I'm not exactly courageous enough or sporting enough to be a CIA employees (even an analyst), but I was thinking that if I had been in Jordan Reed's shoes, having just whacked a bad guy with a pipe and taken his guns, especially a silenced one, I would've shot him in both knees before telling him to get up.

* More Jack brutality: when the Secret Service agent spotted the President, I was expecting Jack to do his neck chokehold (kind of like a harsher version of Mr. Spock's neck pinch), but instead Jack just clocked the guy in the face. Yikes!

* No silent clock at the end for President Heller? Does that mean he's still alive? Naw, "24" doesn't play the "ha ha, he/she isn't really dead" game. Well, except for Tony Almeida. I guess if you want to look for possibilities, the fact that Chloe was messing with the drone program offers a rationalization for either confusing the drone's video feed or altering the missile's flight path. I think he's dead, though. It's a pretty heroic sacrifice, and we've seen that before on "24" (George Mason, Ryan Chappelle, Bill Buchanan, among others).

* Lots of "24" tropes/scenarios replayed tonight. Pointing a gun at doctors to make them disregard the Hippocratic Oath showed up in season 4 when Jack made them stop working on Paul Raines in order to save the captured Chinese diplomat that he needed information from, even though doing so doomed Raines. Having guys hit on Chloe while she was trying to do her computer nerd magic in a public setting came from season 5, and was done better then because she pulled out a stun gun and zapped the persistent suitor before continuing with her work. We saw Jack walk out with a doomed man in season 3, when President Palmer offered up CTU head Ryan Chappelle to appease terrorist Steven Saunders.

* "24" isn't particularly known for acting, but I thought Tate Donovan and Kim Raver did great jobs in conveying what Boudreaux's having helped send the President to his doom was going to do to their marriage.

* Kate Morgan is becoming more and more like "Jacqueline Bauer," and even the producers are saying they'd consider future seasons with her as the lead: "The format itself is very sturdy and with the right story it can be compelling. So if a [Jack-free] story presented itself to us, we would be open to it."

* Unfortunately for those of us who love "24," the ratings last night were kind of bad. On the other hand, maybe a Kiefer-less season would be cheaper to produce and justifiable even with those ratings, which are still better than most shows that Fox has been airing all season....
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Which raises a whole OTHER question
No doubt they couldn't get permission to land the helicopter inside the stadium.

(The producers, of course, not Jack Bauer, for whom permission is irrelevant.)


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* I realize I'm not exactly courageous enough or sporting enough to be a CIA employees (even an analyst), but I was thinking that if I had been in Jordan Reed's shoes, having just whacked a bad guy with a pipe and taken his guns, especially a silenced one, I would've shot him in both knees before telling him to get up.
I was thinking that when the assassin asked him if the safety was on, he should have shot him in the leg (knowing the safety was off, because an assassin wouldn't come after you with a gun that won't fire), then said "Apparently so. And now it's going to be harder to get up and put your hands on your head, but nonetheless."
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There have been one punch knockouts on every tv show since the very first tv shows. Why is this one suddenly unbelievable?
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No doubt they couldn't get permission to land the helicopter inside the stadium.

(The producers, of course, not Jack Bauer, for whom permission is irrelevant.)



I was thinking that when the assassin asked him if the safety was on, he should have shot him in the leg (knowing the safety was off, because an assassin wouldn't come after you with a gun that won't fire), then said "Apparently so. And now it's going to be harder to get up and put your hands on your head, but nonetheless."
In 28 weeks later they did land a helicopter inside what appears to be Wembly stadium at the end of the movie.
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There have been one punch knockouts on every tv show since the very first tv shows. Why is this one suddenly unbelievable?
Because it's on 24.

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And they uploaded apparently the entire drive in a few seconds.
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They sure do like CGI now.

Only 4 episodes left, and still no time jump.

Poor Audrey. She was catatonic before, maybe she'll finally stay with Jack? Nahhhh.

Ooh... Kotaku posted this earlier. Funny as hell.

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IMDB does not show any time jump in show titles. It appears to be real time for 12 continuous hours / episodes.

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