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Old 05-22-2014, 04:23 PM   #1
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Upcoming 2014 summer update speculation?

Anyone want to speculate what this summer has in hold for the update? The field test email messages appear to have been sent out, at least I have received one which I haven't responded to yet. Granted once the NDA is set you can't really comment so I thought I would bring it up, for myself to participate I may have to put the original drives back into my Roamio's which won't be too bad since this coming weekend I'm replacing my basic Roamio with a Pro.

Other than possible Android Stream support, anyone care to speculate what the summer has in hold for Tivo users?

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P.S. We have some cool stuff lined up for the "Summer Update". It is a great time to join our Beta program if you want to be part of the (secret) inner circle: https://fieldtrials.tivo.com/signup/default.html

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Old 05-22-2014, 04:38 PM   #2
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Native streaming over cellular connections
New Amazon app (hopefully with Prime support)
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TiVo Mini UI matching the Roamio UI
Maybe something in the social arena
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Old 05-22-2014, 04:41 PM   #3
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I've never participated in any TiVo field trials, but if they are just now sending out beta invites I'm wondering if the Summer Update will be released more towards the end of summer rather than, say, sometime in June.

How long does a typical beta for a major TiVo release usually run? I would guess 2 or 3 months without having any experience with them.
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Old 05-22-2014, 06:38 PM   #4
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Hopefully Amazon streaming as well as the Android Stream support. And a new Mini UI would also be nice.
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:11 PM   #5
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I haven't heard a peep from the field trials program for a LONG time... several years now, I think. I had to go and actually check and see if I was still signed up, which I am. I wonder how they select which people get invited to which programs.
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Old 05-22-2014, 10:55 PM   #7
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I haven't heard a peep from the field trials program for a LONG time... several years now, I think. I had to go and actually check and see if I was still signed up, which I am. I wonder how they select which people get invited to which programs.
You have to have non upgraded TiVos in your account for one thing.
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Old 05-23-2014, 07:20 AM   #8
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The problem now is that with four and six tuner Tivos, I don't have extra Tivos lying around like in the old days when two tuners was the max. So I wouldn't want beta software on a DVR I need to use on a regular basis. Plus beta testing is time consuming. Having to dedicate up to an hour or more each day to do the testing properly.
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Old 05-23-2014, 02:58 PM   #9
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I just did the TiVo advisors' panel May survey.

Very short one this time.

No questions about Android, Amazon, etc. I was hoping they would ask for feedback on Comcast On-demand. They need to work on improving that.

Interested in my desktop/laptop/etc. OSes. (Android wasn't one of the options though ChromeOS was.) Presumably just for TiVo Desktop purposes.

They've barely been interested in Android at all in these surveys.

Of course this is reasonable, since there are more Android devices in the world then all other OSes combined. An insignificant market.
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Old 05-23-2014, 03:43 PM   #10
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I haven't heard a peep from the field trials program for a LONG time... several years now, I think. I had to go and actually check and see if I was still signed up, which I am. I wonder how they select which people get invited to which programs.
Sometimes it is worth going in and creating a new record. At one point they requested you do this since they added more questions and changed something. If you didn't do this, you may not show up on the list of candidates.
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Old 05-23-2014, 06:35 PM   #11
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I was hoping they would ask for feedback on Comcast On-demand. They need to work on improving that.

They've barely been interested in Android at all in these surveys.
you realize the Comcast app works better on tivo than their own box? And that Comcast owns the app?

No need to ask about Android. The answer is known, no need to ask the obvious!
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Old 05-27-2014, 05:26 PM   #12
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How about not rebooting for no reason all the time
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Old 05-27-2014, 05:26 PM   #13
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Not too much I want. The XoD app is a disaster, but then again XoD is kind of pointless when you have a TiVo. Just for platform parity, I guess I'll put my vote in for streaming on the Android side of things...
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:44 PM   #14
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How about not rebooting for no reason all the time
That's my number one feature request.
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:38 AM   #16
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I speculate that there won't be a summer update. I bet it's closer to late fall/early winter.
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:08 AM   #17
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I speculate that there won't be a summer update. I bet it's closer to late fall/early winter.
When are they usually released?
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When are they usually released?
When the update is finished and tested (somewhat).
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Old 05-28-2014, 10:18 AM   #19
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When the update is finished and tested (somewhat).
And sometimes sooner unfortunately....
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Disaster? Really?
Considering it crashes all the time, yes.
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Considering it crashes all the time, yes.
Sorry this is so far off-topic, folks!

hmmm, I use it pretty darn regularly, at least a couple/few times a week. Very occasionally have to re-launch it because of the silly error about tightening your cable and maybe once or twice its needed a reboot of either the mini or Roamio to get it running again over a year's time... other than that its been rock solid for me. Has literally never hung, or crashed out or stopped responding to remote commands, rebooted the whole Tivo, etc.

Compared to how bad the netflix client worked for a while there, in my experience I'd call it world-class, other than how ugly it looks.

Well, there was that time it was down a while ago when something on the back end died and it took them a couple of days to resuscitate whatever it was... cant fault the client for that one, tho.

Is it better is some markets than others maybe? The Boston market was like 1st to get it since we had the mutant comcast/tivo Motorolla boxes and they used it to replace that...
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:09 AM   #22
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Considering it crashes all the time, yes.
Doesn't do that here in the ATL, you just get the occasional error on playback because all the QAM channels are tied up. So all we do is keep hitting play until it works when that happens, and it always works eventually.

You've got another issue with your area, the XOD app doesn't crash all the time everywhere.
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Sorry this is so far off-topic, folks!

hmmm, I use it pretty darn regularly, at least a couple/few times a week. Very occasionally have to re-launch it because of the silly error about tightening your cable and maybe once or twice its needed a reboot of either the mini or Roamio to get it running again over a year's time... other than that its been rock solid for me. Has literally never hung, or crashed out or stopped responding to remote commands, rebooted the whole Tivo, etc.

Compared to how bad the netflix client worked for a while there, in my experience I'd call it world-class, other than how ugly it looks.

Well, there was that time it was down a while ago when something on the back end died and it took them a couple of days to resuscitate whatever it was... cant fault the client for that one, tho.

Is it better is some markets than others maybe? The Boston market was like 1st to get it since we had the mutant comcast/tivo Motorolla boxes and they used it to replace that...
It could be market based, it could also be because we are on a Sci Atlanta system, as opposed to most of Comcast with Moto (although Comcast will be pretty evenly split if the TWC merger goes through).

Ours bombs out just about every time you go in, although about half the time it will start working after it bombs out.

Netflix is a little different though, since you can just switch to one of the other gazillion devices that supports it, vs. VOD where you have to have a CableCard or MSO-provided device.

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Doesn't do that here in the ATL, you just get the occasional error on playback because all the QAM channels are tied up. So all we do is keep hitting play until it works when that happens, and it always works eventually.

You've got another issue with your area, the XOD app doesn't crash all the time everywhere.
Wow, I didn't realize that areas actually ran out of QAMs other than once in a blue moon. I've never heard of that actually happening. I've also probably never been on a really busy node.

Not that I really care about XoD, as it's something that I didn't really want in the first place, I've just tested it a few times out of curiosity about TiVo supporting it.
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Hello, spoke w/ Tech Support, recommended I signup w/ field trials... Is there anything to be gained in doing so ?
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If approved, the benefit is you gain early access to beta software before general release. It may or may not have new features or fix any issues you have. (Don't know about bug fixes, but the tea leaves suggest the summer update will have some new features.)

Downside is the risk of bugs and instability, and you're expected to actively test and contribute to the process, beyond using your DVR normally.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:56 AM   #26
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I speculate that there won't be a summer update. I bet it's closer to late fall/early winter.
We're about two weeks out from the 3-column view. Hopefully some streaming enhancements are also on the docket. Haven't heard anything on an Amazon update recently. :/

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Old 06-11-2014, 03:55 PM   #27
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Hopefully Amazon streaming as well as the Android Stream support. And a new Mini UI would also be nice.
+1 to the Android streaming support and Amazon Prime streaming
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:28 PM   #28
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I'm at the point where the ONLY thing I care about any more is Android streaming support.

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The lack of Amazon Prime streaming is the biggest current problem. I'm sure a large number of TiVo owners are Amazon Prime members who would love to be able to use it through their TiVos. The current Amazon app is very disappointing without a streaming option and completely useless on the Mini.
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I'm at the point where the ONLY thing I care about any more is Android streaming support.

The. Only. Thing.

Wow. So there IS at least one thing about TiVo that isn't to your liking...

I'm more worried about what they'll break, or make worse, in usual fashion...

Fixes are nice. New things are nice (sometimes). I just can't recall a release where they didn't break something, unless that release was an emergency release, to fix something they broke with what they had just released...

I sure hope they fix all the CPU priority issues when transfers are in progress. That's one issue everybody who uses transfers is familiar with, and will not deny! Having to suffer it this long is ridiculous. That it was released with that issue in the first place, is unforgivable, in my book.
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