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Old 03-23-2015, 10:51 AM   #1
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The Last Man On Earth S01E5/6 - 03/22/2015

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The show is losing me pretty fast. I just don't like him at all. He has no endearing qualities.

Also - the cast is getting pretty big for the show's title

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Old 03-23-2015, 10:57 AM   #2
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The show is losing me pretty fast. I just don't like him at all. He has no endearing qualities.

Also - the cast is getting pretty big for the show's title
Haven't seen the ep yet, but, if he's still the only man on the show, how is "the cast pretty big for the show's title"?

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Old 03-23-2015, 10:58 AM   #3
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Old 03-23-2015, 11:01 AM   #4
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Yeah, as I feared, this show is getting old fast.

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Old 03-23-2015, 11:13 AM   #5
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The show is losing me pretty fast. I just don't like him at all. He has no endearing qualities.

Also - the cast is getting pretty big for the show's title
I concur on both counts. Every minute of screen time he had made me like him less and less.

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Old 03-23-2015, 11:16 AM   #6
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Agree, it's going downhill, his schtick and that whining voice is wearing thin

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Old 03-23-2015, 11:22 AM   #7
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The show is losing me pretty fast. I just don't like him at all. He has no endearing qualities.

Also - the cast is getting pretty big for the show's title
I've also had a mild dislike for Forte. Somehow I get the impression the character is very much like him.

But the rest of the cast I'm enjoying. When Phil was going through his BS about having to sleep with Melissa the look on Carol's face was priceless. Her delivery of the line, "Want some soup" was priceless.

The buildup to Todd's first appearance made the actual reveal very funny. And January Jones does a great job.

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Old 03-23-2015, 11:22 AM   #8
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Haven't seen the ep yet, but, if he's still the only man on the show, how is "the cast pretty big for the show's title"?
Spoilers are allowed in the thread right?

He's no longer the only man on the show.

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Spoilers are allowed in the thread right?

He's no longer the only man on the show.

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Old 03-23-2015, 11:25 AM   #10
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The show is just really shallow.

This is "Utopia" all over again for me....the previews teased a really cool concept for a show, and it doesn't deliver. At all.

With the additions to the cast, I read someone describe it as "Gilligans Island if Gilligan spent all his time trying to sleep with Ginger."

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Old 03-23-2015, 11:36 AM   #11
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Agreed.

I think it would of been a great show if he was he last man on earth.

Have him travel around the USA looking for people.

Sit on Lincolns lap
Do a lap at daytona
Pick Washingtons nose, at Mt. Rushmore..
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it's endless.

But Tucson??

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Old 03-23-2015, 11:45 AM   #12
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His character is starting to annoy me too.

I did enjoy his big build-up to sleeping with JJ, which led to wasting so much time the other dude showed up.

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Old 03-23-2015, 12:12 PM   #13
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Spoilers are allowed in the thread right?

He's no longer the only man on the show.
Then I'm out....

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Old 03-23-2015, 12:24 PM   #14
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I did enjoy his big build-up to sleeping with JJ, which led to wasting so much time the other dude showed up.
And not only wasting time, but drawing the guy to them with the fireworks!

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Old 03-23-2015, 01:05 PM   #15
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But Tucson??
It's not even really Tuscon.

I'm hanging in. It's a low-investment show; I can half watch while reading forums and not really miss anything.

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Old 03-23-2015, 02:01 PM   #16
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In episode threads, I try not to give in to laziness and just say, "I agree with Sepinwall", and then link to him.

I haven't really agreed with some of the discussion prior to this week's eps that Phil is intolerable. I think the show has actually traded off which of Phil and Carol we are supposed to have a hard time with at any moment, and thus have empathy for the other. That's kind of bold, and I've appreciated it. And the show around them has been clever, original, and has delivered at least a couple of solid laughs each episode. So, though not my favorite thing on the air, I've largely enjoyed watching it.

Anyway, back to Sepinwall. In his post on these two episodes, he wrote:

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Phil's annoyance at constantly missing his window with Melissa was both a thin joke and a really familiar one — even if the context is new — and it seemed a big step back for the show. There were several points in these episodes where his behavior was so annoying and pathetic that I wondered why I was even watching anymore...
That was, 100%, my experience. Phil lusting after Melissa had been done to death already in the prior two episodes, but nonetheless, almost every single scene of these two was more of that -- with Phil getting more and more obnoxious as it went. I wound up fast-forwarding through a good part of both episodes, indeed wondering why the heck I was watching at all. It wasn't so much that Phil was unamusing, although he was, it was that he was the same kind of unamusing over and over and over again. Scene after scene. Wow, what a misfire.

As long as I've given in to laziness -- Sepinwall concludes by writing:

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My hope is that the last two scenes of "Some Friggin' Fat Guy" was the writers putting a bow on this particular story, and that it's not just going to be a constant stream of failed ****-blocks and embarrassing seduction attempts. It's one thing for a guy like Phil to decide that this is his sole mission in this strange new world, and another for a writing staff that has so many options to play with in the world Will Forte created to devote all their time and energy to a guy being upset because he only gets to sleep with the second-hottest woman alive.
Amen to that. If the show can move on from here, I'm still in. If not, I'll be dropping the show before the end of the next episode.

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Old 03-23-2015, 03:37 PM   #17
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While I agree with Sepinwall, I have to point out that while Carol may be the second hottest woman alive, she is definitely the most annoying woman alive.


That said, I agree with the previous comments as I was thinking that Phil has become an absolute putz that's getting more and more annoying to watch.

And this is causing the show to fall into the main trap I feared when it first started, that the concept would wear thin.

The show can still be salvaged but if the course isn't changed, I think the show will lose me as a viewer.

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Old 03-23-2015, 04:22 PM   #18
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I think Carol is kind of sweet and that makes me dislike Phil even more

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Old 03-23-2015, 04:25 PM   #19
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I hate to admit it, but this show is turning into a typical SNL skit where they start with a great concept, have a few good jokes and then lose focus and steam and don't know how to end the sketch. But I'm gonna hang in there and hope for the best.

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I think everyone is missing the point. The show started out with us "rooting" for Phil, and then when Carol was introduced, she was more obnoxious than being alone. But as the episodes have progressed, we see that we were wrong to be "rooting" for Phil, as he's really pretty much a dick, while it's the other people that have shown up that are the truly nice people that viewers should be rooting for.

So it's kind of unique for Phil to shift from the protagonist to the antagonist, but I think that's what's happening.

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So it's kind of unique for Phil to shift from the protagonist to the antagonist, but I think that's what's happening.
Conceptually, that works for me. But the execution is rather lacking, since I increasingly find the show unenjoyable.

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Old 03-23-2015, 05:06 PM   #22
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Seems like someone who insists that it's "gorap" and not "gorp" (episode 5) should know that it's "kit and caboodle" and not "kitchen caboodle" (episode 6).

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I agree with Sepinwall. But I'll keep watching until it gets better or the spring shows start, which ever comes first.

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I think everyone is missing the point. The show started out with us "rooting" for Phil, and then when Carol was introduced, she was more obnoxious than being alone. But as the episodes have progressed, we see that we were wrong to be "rooting" for Phil, as he's really pretty much a dick, while it's the other people that have shown up that are the truly nice people that viewers should be rooting for. So it's kind of unique for Phil to shift from the protagonist to the antagonist, but I think that's what's happening.
I never rooted for phil. He's been a lazy dick from the beginning.

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Seems like someone who insists that it's "gorap" and not "gorp" (episode 5) should know that it's "kit and caboodle" and not "kitchen caboodle" (episode 6).
Why? She's wrong on both.

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And not only wasting time, but drawing the guy to them with the fireworks!
Isn't it amazing that a guy who is so technically inept he can't get water from a tank without it leaking is suddenly so knowledgeable that he can shoot off professional fireworks from a guitar pedal?

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Man, I'm loving this show.

Is he annoying? yes. Is she? yes.

But I laugh out loud several times each episode, which is very rare for me with network TV.

He's like bad luck schleprock and I enjoy it. The hot chick arrives two weeks before his wife, but he doesn't find her? Great. The new dude shows up because of the fireworks he sets off to woo her? Great. Every time he tries to make the new guy look bad (fat, shirtless) it backfires. Great.

There's just some lines/dialogue that I find hilarious (i.e. "shotgun")

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It's not even really Tuscon.
The scenes of Todd driving down the deserted freeway looked suspiciously like Interstate 5 between the CA 118 and the CA 14 exchanges with the traffic digitally removed.

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I just finished watching these two episodes and, wow... can't take much more Phil.

I was hoping for Melissa to turn all Betty Draper and verbally light into him. I mean big time, not the simple "you're an a**" she eventually did.

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