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Old 09-07-2014, 03:28 PM   #1
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New Mini Pricing Coming Soon?

I wonder if new mini pricing is coming sooner than we expected. Or possibly a hardware refresh.

https://www.tivo.com/shop/mini

Out of stock
until 9/9/2014

http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2014-08/...-service-fees/

http://zatznotfunny.com/?p=76059

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Old 09-07-2014, 05:09 PM   #2
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Interesting its the same day as the Apple product announcements not that there is any connection.
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Old 09-07-2014, 05:34 PM   #3
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CEDIA Expo starts on 9/10, where the jumbo Tivo is expected to be shown.

Smells like it's gonna be a bit of a shakeup week.
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Old 09-07-2014, 05:50 PM   #4
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Best buy is showing $149.99 for the Mini. Sign of things to come?
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Old 09-07-2014, 05:54 PM   #5
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Best Buy is already showing a price of $149.99 online. I wonder what would happen if you tried to match Amazon's $85 price in store right now. Would that count as the purchase of a lifetime included unit?
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Old 09-07-2014, 06:05 PM   #6
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Best Buy is already showing a price of $149.99 online. I wonder what would happen if you tried to match Amazon's $85 price in store right now. Would that count as the purchase of a lifetime included unit?
I paid 175 for several of my minis with lifetime, but it stings just a bit for the unit I paid the full 250.

However, if this is the new pricing with lifetime, good for them for properly pricing it. Now if they do something similar for the Roamios, maybe retail subs will recover.
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Old 09-07-2014, 06:05 PM   #7
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Sweet. Sounds like we got our answer.
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Old 09-07-2014, 06:54 PM   #8
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42? What was the question?
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Old 09-07-2014, 07:17 PM   #9
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Just wish that I would have waited to buy mine though. I would have saved $100.
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Old 09-07-2014, 07:18 PM   #10
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know I paid $30.98 + $149.99 for my first mini's and $25 + $149 for my second, so I lost out on $55.98 over 10 months, so no biggie.

This is a much appreciated move on TiVo's part.
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:21 PM   #11
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Several sites have the mini for $85 now....will those have the lifetime service as well?
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:36 PM   #12
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Several sites have the mini for $85 now....will those have the lifetime service as well?
You will not be able to buy a mini at the old price with no service, it will be based on service number - we have been down this road before. However, they may allow you some type "conversion deal"... You never know!

The discount is deeper than I expected.
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Old 09-07-2014, 11:37 PM   #13
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So do i buy now at amazon for $85 or wait until the 10th to get best deal?
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:45 AM   #14
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I'd wait.

Of course you could buy it and then return it if better deal becomes available. Better yet, just refuse the shipment. I wonder how Amazon handles refusals. I guess I should ask in the Amazon thread.
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:44 AM   #15
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I wonder if new mini pricing is coming sooner than we expected. Or possibly a hardware refresh.
Hopefully any Mini refresh includes
  1. 802.11ac support
  2. 4k support
  3. mpg4 support
  4. lower power consumption

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Old 09-08-2014, 10:53 AM   #16
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Hopefully any Mini refresh includes
  1. 802.11ac support
  2. 4k support
  3. mpg4 support
  4. lower power consumption
This is just a pricing mechanism for an ecosystem strategy they are trying to implement. Not a hardware refresh. But, let me address your wishlist.
  1. I still think MOCA is better than WIFI, but nothing wrong with a modern spec. I don't know any MSO modems that currently support that specification, so likely a small footprint at the moment.
  2. 4k would have to come to the the Roamio line first, and until broadcast TiVo is distributing 4k - you will not see it.
  3. mpg4 will be implemented in software early 2015
  4. TiVo Mini is already a pretty low power user. ~5.5 watts ~4.5 watts during standby

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Old 09-08-2014, 11:10 AM   #17
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Awesome...so glad I bought 4 Mini's each with Lifetime for ~$235 each.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:19 AM   #18
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I bought one just after release as well. I am trying to decide if I want to replace my 2 tuner Premiere with a Mini now.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:44 AM   #19
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Awesome...so glad I bought 4 Mini's each with Lifetime for ~$235 each.
Yeah I'm in for 2 Minis around that same price 9 months ago. It's just the price you pay for being an early adopter. Mathematically, I still come out ahead though, since I would have been paying for 2 TWC cableboxes at ~$12 a piece for the past 9 months had I not bought the 2 Minis.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:01 PM   #20
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I wonder how its going to play out for those that might have an unactivated unit still sealed in the box in their current possession, or for those that purchased one from a third party that are expecting delivery at the end of this week..........

I will say, I can only imagine the mayhem that has the potential to unfurl if they come up with some kind of "tiered" PLS scale, but will be hopeful that they just implement this across the board.

I feel bad for the people who have been paying a monthly fee for a while on this thing, for TiVo to turn around and ask for more money for PLS.

I suppose we'll find out all the details tomorrow.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:02 PM   #21
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I called Tivo and was told for customers on the current 1 year monthly commitment can call tomorrow and get Lifetime for $49. Was told if you do it online the change won't happen until after your current 1 year commitment. If you call in they will be able to make it happen right away and you will get rid of your monthly $5.99 charge. We will see.
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I wonder how its going to play out for those that might have an unactivated unit still sealed in the box in their current possession, or for those that purchased one from a third party that are expecting delivery at the end of this week..........

I will say, I can only imagine the mayhem that has the potential to unfurl if they come up with some kind of "tiered" PLS scale, but will be hopeful that they just implement this across the board.

I feel bad for the people who have been paying a monthly fee for a while on this thing, for TiVo to turn around and ask for more money for PLS.

I suppose we'll find out all the details tomorrow.
$50... Seems pretty good.

You want to feel sorry for people, what about people that purchased lifetime under the old program? I am good, I do not feel ripped off on my Mini and applaud this price change moving forward.
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$50... Seems pretty good.

You want to feel sorry for people, what about people that purchased lifetime under the old program? I am good, I do not feel ripped off on my Mini and applaud this price change moving forward.
Those who bought lifetime for a Mini 30 days ago or later will be able to get a refund and buy it at the new price. Just the usual 30-day refund policy in play for that.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:10 PM   #24
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I'm trying to decide if I should get rid of my 2 tuner lifetimed premier for my bedroom and get a Mini...I think I could get around $350 for it (along with the WiFi adapter) on ebay...I could then put that $150 towards lifetime on my Roamio....what to do, what to do?
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I'm trying to decide if I should get rid of my 2 tuner lifetimed premier for my bedroom and get a Mini...I think I could get around $350 for it (along with the WiFi adapter) on ebay...I could then put that $150 towards lifetime on my Roamio....what to do, what to do?
I am trying to decide the same thing - but I have that thing upgraded to 2TB...
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So do i buy now at amazon for $85 or wait until the 10th to get best deal?
Amazon is now "out of stock" but shows as shipping in 2-4 weeks still with price of $85. I just jumped on that deal for 3 minis...hopefully amazon does't cancel the order and it should be fresh stock with TSNs that won't require subscription.
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Considering they refer to it as a "TiVo Mini and Lifetime Service Bundle" I would anticipate a different package/SKU for the Mini that includes lifetime vs. the Mini requiring separate $50 lifetime purchase.
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Considering they refer to it as a "TiVo Mini and Lifetime Service Bundle" I would anticipate a different package/SKU for the Mini that includes lifetime vs. the Mini requiring separate $50 lifetime purchase.

I thought about that too...I think amazon will change the ASIN number and this one will never ship. Just got off the phone with Best Buy and they matched the $85 price...rep told me her supervisor told her that she had approved a bunch of these price matches today. Well see how it plays out.
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I am in an area where Comcast is moving to MPEG-4 for their HD channels in late October, so i have been forced to purchase a Roamio Plus, since the TivoHD doesn't support MPEG4. I ordered a Mini from BB a few days ago, and they don't price match after the fact. I gave BB a call and had them place a new store pickup order. They price-matched to Amazon for $84.99. My first order will be delivered tomorrow, so i will bring it back for a refund when i pick up the new order. Hopefully the new pricing will be in effect when i install my new Roamio and Mini on Wednesday.
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Amazon is now "out of stock" but shows as shipping in 2-4 weeks still with price of $85. I just jumped on that deal for 3 minis...hopefully amazon does't cancel the order and it should be fresh stock with TSNs that won't require subscription.
Amazon has now removed their listing for the "out of stock" Mini at $85. They must have finally noticed the unusual spike in orders. I put in an order for a Mini before they removed the listing. So far it is still in my orders list, but we'll see if Amazon cancels these orders at some point before they ship.
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