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Old 03-15-2014, 10:57 AM   #31
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Is it offensive because the "outward appearance of acceptance" part is false?
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:10 AM   #32
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Is it offensive because the "outward appearance of acceptance" part is false?
I really don't want this to turn into a discussion on religion. I'll just say that claiming that all Christians are like that is false. Yes, some people are like that, but I would argue that those people aren't really Christian (Christ like).

Every religion has people claiming to be a part of that religion, yet acting differently than what that religion teaches. It's unfair and inaccurate to paint an entire religion based on the actions of those few people.
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:13 AM   #33
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:32 AM   #34
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yes, and I understood that he took one more sip and said 'OK, I am drunk now' or something like that, indicating to me he could get drunk by drinking less than one beer.

I love these exchanges with his 'Mommy':
"Sheldon: Well, this is confusing for me. But I don't want to stand in the way of your happiness. So, I will condemn you internally while maintaining an outward appearance of acceptance.
Mary: That is very Christian of you."

I love his moms' version of Christianity. It is sometimes too close to the truth for some, but not for me.

"Sheldon: I should let you know the world has changed since you were a young woman. It's not all sock hops, soda jerks and segregation any more.

Especially the reference to segregation.

"Sheldon: My point is you're going to need to be careful. You used to be protected by your pre-enlightenment mythology. But now you're going to need a stronger friend, named latex.
Mary: Are you having the sex talk with me?
Sheldon: Well someone has to.
Mary: Oh, dear Lord.
Sheldon: No, don't look to him. He's mad at you right now."

"pre-enlightenment mythology" that really cracked me up.

http://the-big-bang-theory.com/quotes/episode/718/
Some of my favorite lines! I'll just leave it at that.
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:32 AM   #35
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Is it offensive because the "outward appearance of acceptance" part is false?
Yeah, odd to see that as offensive. My wife was raised as a Born Again Christian and she thought it was funny and spot on. Outward behavior and true inner feelings don't always match up 100% (Christian or otherwise). It's part of the human experience.
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:42 AM   #36
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Yeah, odd to see that as offensive. My wife was raised as a Born Again Christian and she thought it was funny and spot on. Outward behavior and true inner feelings don't always match up 100% (Christian or otherwise). It's part of the human experience.
Totally.

Anyone who found this offensive can't be living in the real world!
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:54 AM   #37
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Old 03-15-2014, 01:03 PM   #39
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Although personally, I have much more problem with the breed of Christian whose inner condemnation is paraded as a public moral absolute to which everybody must bow.
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Old 03-15-2014, 01:44 PM   #40
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The Big Bang Theory [03/13/2014] - "The Mommy Observation"

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No one is "raised as a born again Christian."
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Old 03-15-2014, 02:37 PM   #41
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Howard seems to have forgotten about his mom and the dentist.
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Old 03-15-2014, 03:00 PM   #42
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Howard seems to have forgotten about his mom and the dentist.
That's who I thought he was talking about when he started his story. But by the end, it was clear that he wasn't referring to that episode.
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Old 03-15-2014, 03:53 PM   #43
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No one is "raised as a born again Christian."
To be fair, you have never met my wife. What semantics would you use to identify someone who grew up in a family where everyone is a Born Again Christian and attended a church where everyone is a Born Again Christian?
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Old 03-15-2014, 04:20 PM   #44
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To be fair, you have never met my wife. What semantics would you use to identify someone who grew up in a family where everyone is a Born Again Christian and attended a church where everyone is a Born Again Christian?
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Old 03-15-2014, 04:56 PM   #45
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Yes, some people are like that, but I would argue that those people aren't really Christian (Christ like).
I guess they aren't true Scotsman either.

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Every religion has people claiming to be a part of that religion, yet acting differently than what that religion teaches. It's unfair and inaccurate to paint an entire religion based on the actions of those few people.
I agree that it's unfortunate that the 99 percent make the other 1% look bad.
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Old 03-15-2014, 06:27 PM   #46
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I agree that it's unfortunate that the 99 percent make the other 1% look bad.

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Old 03-15-2014, 08:24 PM   #47
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Sheldon voluntarily drank earlier than that in the episode about the bachelor party for Howard. And he sure drank a lot more than the 2 sips of beer he had in this episode.
I don't understand why there's an argument about this.
As much as Sheldon likes to be ultra rational, he experience a severe emotional shock and needed to regroup and process it.

No doubt Howard suggested a stiff drink, which Sheldon has probably seen people do hundreds of times in movies and television.
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To be fair, you have never met my wife. What semantics would you use to identify someone who grew up in a family where everyone is a Born Again Christian and attended a church where everyone is a Born Again Christian?
No semantics....it's a decision made by a person. I'm not going to engage in a religious discussion here. But, by definition, born again Christian is one who has made a conscious decision...not just because they were "brought up in a (born again) Christian home or by (born again) Christian parents".

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Christian.
And I would disagree....but you and I are both entitled to our opinion.
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Old 03-16-2014, 02:40 AM   #49
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To be fair, you have never met my wife. What semantics would you use to identify someone who grew up in a family where everyone is a Born Again Christian and attended a church where everyone is a Born Again Christian?
I would use their specific denomination.

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You can't lump all Christians together, just as you can't lump all Muslims together.
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You can't lump all Christians together, just as you can't lump all Muslims together.
People can, and do, but it isn't right or correct.

I am thinking that another thread is in order for those that would like to discuss the religious topics brought up.

I won't be starting one as that is not something I have a interest in, but I know others are interested in that kind of conversation.
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Old 03-16-2014, 06:51 AM   #51
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...I should have known that would start the derail. Sorry, everyone who isn't participating it, for setting it off.
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Old 03-16-2014, 09:29 AM   #52
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I agree with the minions here that said the show is getting a bit boring but it will easily last 3 years. I just think it's like almost all sitcoms. They've kind of run out of plots at this point, so they rehash the Raj, murder mystery one. And I had the same reaction as the rest of the characters...not again.

Best part of the episode was how Sheldon acts like an 8 year old boy around his mom. I like that dynamic (maybe because it moves away from the usual show's dynamic).

Anyone else getting board with the writers trying to prove that Leonard and Penny really don't belong together? Seems to be in the plot every week. But, if they are going to break them up, make it permanent this time.

Also I think Howard has the best lines week after week now.
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I was thinking about this while I was driving today and am hoping that it doesn't become Friends with comic books.
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I just started typing a response talking about how I was surprised that they did a murder mystery in two different episodes so close to each other, but then I realized that the previous one I was thinking of wasn't actually BBT but instead was a sketch on SNL when Jim Parsons was hosting.
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I saw Laurie Metcalf in a Broadway play the Christmas before this last one. It was called The Other Place, and she was quite good. In fact, she got a best actress Tony nomination for her work in it. I'd never seen her in a drama before, only Rozanne and BBT.
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I did like the 20 years later clip at the end.
The orange/black car at the left edge of the scene is the BMW i3, which hasn't yet begun US deliveries. I think the moving car is a tarted up Ford Escape. The silver car looks like an old micro/bubble car.
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The silver car looks like an old micro/bubble car.
Did the driver have a sunburned head?
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Sheldon voluntarily drank earlier than that in the episode about the bachelor party for Howard. And he sure drank a lot more than the 2 sips of beer he had in this episode.
Sheldon will drink when social conventions dictate it. He drank at the bachelor party because it is part of what is done when attending one. The same with drinking with Bernadette's father watching football. He learned from his father it's what men do watching football.

Somewhere he must have learned it's acceptable to have a drink in a very depressing or shocking moment. It would have been perfect Sheldon for him to acknowledge it though. That is where I felt the writers fell down with that scene.
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No one is "raised as a born again Christian."
You've obviously never lived in the South. :-)
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You've obviously never lived in the South. :-)
Where, apparently, they believe in reincarnation..?
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