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Old 02-18-2014, 02:21 PM   #121
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The rooftop concert with U2 was interesting and brings up images of the Beatles performing on the roof of Apple Records.
... or, you know, U2's concert from the roof of BBC Broadasting House.
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Old 02-18-2014, 02:39 PM   #122
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Which one was first?
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Old 02-18-2014, 07:21 PM   #123
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I got this link off of Mark Evanier's blog concerning the current breakdown of Late Night audiences.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...e-lenos-676713

I didn't realize that Letterman's audience skewed older than Leno's.
Wow. 80% of Jon Stewart's total audience are people in the 18-49 demo. I wonder if there is another show on television that comes anywhere close to that high of a ratio.
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Old 02-18-2014, 07:37 PM   #124
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Personally, I'm more interested to see Seth Meyers' new show.

I really don't care for Jimmy Fallon at all. He's incredibly awkward during the interviews. Also, during jokes, he often starts smirking at his own jokes. That last one really bugs me... I find comedians who show amusement at their own jokes insufferable. Combine that with the fact that I don't care for The Roots at all means I won't be watching The Tonight Show anytime soon.
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I'm so confused about Fred Armisen being Seth Meyers' band leader. Is this just a short-term stunt thing? Doesn't Fred have a decent career going with Portlandia and other stuff? How does he have time to be at 30 Rock every day of the week for the taping of Seth's show?
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:11 PM   #126
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Personally, I'm more interested to see Seth Meyers' new show.

I really don't care for Jimmy Fallon at all. He's incredibly awkward during the interviews. Also, during jokes, he often starts smirking at his own jokes. That last one really bugs me... I find comedians who show amusement at their own jokes insufferable. Combine that with the fact that I don't care for The Roots at all means I won't be watching The Tonight Show anytime soon.
Same here.
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:16 PM   #127
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Which one was first?
The U2 one on top of 30 Rock was more spectacular. Higher. At sunset. And with the whole skyline of NYC. In HD.


Playing on a roof certainly isn't new, though. Not even for U2 ('Streets' video)
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:49 PM   #128
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I'm so confused about Fred Armisen being Seth Meyers' band leader. Is this just a short-term stunt thing? Doesn't Fred have a decent career going with Portlandia and other stuff? How does he have time to be at 30 Rock every day of the week for the taping of Seth's show?
It's been done before. I think Max Weinberg was away longer during E Street tours, than Armisen will be during Portlandia filmings.

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Old 02-18-2014, 08:54 PM   #129
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I'm really excited for Seth's show too. I think it will be more akin to Conan and Dave's Late Night than Jimmy's was.

Jimmy's show never felt like Late Night to me.
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I'm so confused about Fred Armisen being Seth Meyers' band leader. Is this just a short-term stunt thing? Doesn't Fred have a decent career going with Portlandia and other stuff? How does he have time to be at 30 Rock every day of the week for the taping of Seth's show?
You do realize Paul Shaffer does tons and tons and tons of other stuff, and is always(*) there for Letterman's show, right?

(*) except some religious holidays and a VERY few times he's been sick.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:17 PM   #131
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Edit: I meant all of his "Late Night's" history. Dave and Conan were 6A.
Did 6B have the news set that Letterman walked into several times in the 80s?
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Did 6B have the news set that Letterman walked into several times in the 80s?
That would be WNBC's news set. They were in there until late 2008, clearing out to make room for Late Night with Jimmy Fallon.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:34 PM   #133
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Personally, I'm more interested to see Seth Meyers' new show.

I really don't care for Jimmy Fallon at all. He's incredibly awkward during the interviews. Also, during jokes, he often starts smirking at his own jokes. That last one really bugs me... I find comedians who show amusement at their own jokes insufferable.
Ummmmm... have you seen Seth Meyers?
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:37 PM   #134
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Ummmmm... have you seen Seth Meyers?
Yeah, and I don't think he's anywhere as bad as Fallon is.
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Yeah, and I don't think he's anywhere as bad as Fallon is.
I know. I just found the juxtaposition of the statements amusing.
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Joan Rivers hadn't been on The Tonight Show since 1986. Johnny banned her when she started her own Fox show, and Leno never had her on -not once.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:08 PM   #137
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You do realize Paul Shaffer does tons and tons and tons of other stuff, and is always(*) there for Letterman's show, right?

(*) except some religious holidays and a VERY few times he's been sick.
I know Shafer does a lot of other stuff, but his first and foremost job is as Dave's band leader. And his other jobs are generally music related. I just think it's unusual for someone to be the bandleader on a late-night show but not as their primary job, especially when their other job is not music related and not even on the same coast.

Basically, I view Armisen as a talented actor and comedian in the prime of his career. So I think it's odd for him to take that job that I would consider a step down for him.
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I really don't care for Jimmy Fallon at all. He's incredibly awkward during the interviews. Also, during jokes, he often starts smirking at his own jokes.
He does more than smirk at his own jokes.
I agree that he's usually horribly awkward at interviewing and he doesn't really do a good monologue.

Granted, Fallon is a more rounded talent than most of his competitors with his musical (mimicry) abilities and dancing, he's weak in two of the core requirements for a late night host.

Which is why I find all the positive comparisons to Carson (no doubt pushed by Michaels) a tad annoying.

One thing about Carson was that he was a very good interviewer.

He wanted to his guests to be interesting and if they weren't, he'd either make them interesting or he'd cut them short and they wouldn't be back any time soon.

Robert Blake once said that being on The Tonight Show with Carson was like opening night on Broadway or facing the firing squad.
Fallon often acts like a giddy schoolboy when doing interviews and Blake could probably cut him to ribbons.
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Old 02-19-2014, 04:45 AM   #139
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Fallon is a terrible interviewer, one of the worst. He laughs if his guests just open their mouths. And laughs. And laughs some more. Fake, fake laughter. I like some of his bits, like the Tweets, but I cannot watch the guy interview a guest for more than a few seconds.
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(...) Leno never had her on -not once.
I had always thought that she was the one who didn't want to be on Leno's show, because she was resentful that he got the gig.
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I had always thought that she was the one who didn't want to be on Leno's show, because she was resentful that he got the gig.
That may be true. I'm sure Jay will say it is. Probably something in between.
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Jay wouldn't say that it because of her resentment, even if he believed it.
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Jay wouldn't say that it because of her resentment, even if he believed it.
However, Jay would say that she was always welcome on the show, and she chose not to go on.
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Yes, definitely.
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Joan Rivers hadn't been on The Tonight Show since 1986. Johnny banned her when she started her own Fox show, and Leno never had her on -not once.

I wonder if that's the longest banishment from a TV show - longer than Elvis Costello or Sinead O'Connor from Saturday Night Live
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Interesting...

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Coincidentally, Rivers first appeared on Carson’s "Tonight" on Feb. 17, 1965, exactly 49 years to the day from her Monday night return to honor the new host.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...#ixzz2tp01ngJL

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That is interesting. I noticed on CCC that Seinfeld knows the exact day that he first appeared on Johnny's show. I wonder if that's a common thing for comics? If so, Joan would have known the significance.
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That is interesting. I noticed on CCC that Seinfeld knows the exact day that he first appeared on Johnny's show. I wonder if that's a common thing for comics? If so, Joan would have known the significance.
Back in the Carson days, landing a gig on the Tonight Show was like reaching the summit of Everest for a comic. I would guarantee that almost every single comic knows their exact day.
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It also was about as far as most comics were going to get into the TV & movie arena.

Until Senfeld kinda made it fashionable for the major standup comics to get sitcoms, and then the big basic cable and pay cable breakout into original series kind of sealed the deal.

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Back in the Carson days, landing a gig on the Tonight Show was like reaching the summit of Everest for a comic. I would guarantee that almost every single comic knows their exact day.
....and as you must know but others might not, being asked to the couch AFTER their standup set was a _huuuuuuuuuuge_ deal.
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