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Old 08-18-2014, 06:38 PM   #91
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Yay, finally! I don't really have an Android tablet, other then a Kindle Fire I use exclusively for Clash of Clans, but I still think it's good news that it's finally coming down the pipe. Might even sway my decision for my next tablet.
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Old 08-18-2014, 08:56 PM   #92
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Can we rename this thread now?

It's misleading and could cause confusion.
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Old 08-18-2014, 10:05 PM   #93
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Can we rename this thread now?

It's misleading and could cause confusion.

Don't jinx it.
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:06 AM   #94
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:32 AM   #95
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Can we rename this thread now?

It's misleading and could cause confusion.
Announcements are not reality in this space. Wait till it drops.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:47 AM   #96
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I'm blown away by 4.1 being the cut off. I hoped that my now ancient Xoom (March 2011) would work with the stream when it was initially announced, but held little hope as time passed. Right now it is mostly only good for movies and very light surfing, but now it gets a second life!.
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Old 08-19-2014, 02:10 PM   #97
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Will there be support for the Kindle Fire, HD, HDX? Perhaps not for the first two. I think the Kindle Fire HD runs a form of 4.0.3.
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The 3rd gen HD and all HDX versions are compatible with 4.2.2 so they should work. But you'll likely need to side load the app. Older HDs and the original fire are based on 4.0.3 so they will not.
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Thanks, Dan. That is what I thought. It is a little disappointing since my daughters have Kindle Fire HD's (2nd gen), but at least it will work with our phones.
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Old 08-19-2014, 06:26 PM   #100
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I really hope this is for real.

And I really hope it actually works. After all of this time it better be one of the smoothest experiences I've ever had.
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Old 08-19-2014, 06:56 PM   #101
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"Finally! Very glad to say that our Android streaming app will become available next month! Stay tuned for details. #android #tivoroamio" 6:02 AM - 18 Aug 2014

I got my Roamio & Stream on at my door on Thursday, 08/22/2013 at 1:49 P.M.

So I waited a YEAR for them to tell me I had to wait a another month for a device I purchased but could not use.

Why did they even tell us it would be a month? Why didn't they just release it?
What if in a month it still doesn't work. Are we going to believe anything they say?

Was this just announced so people wouldn't go out and but the new slingbox?

I will not rename the thread until it works....

Since I sold the Stream because I couldn't wait, guess I have to buy it again...
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:37 PM   #102
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Well they were asking for Beta testers for the Android version. They could find an issue in this phase that requires them to further delay it. Hopefully that doesn't happen but it would seem like a possibility.
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Old 08-20-2014, 12:28 AM   #103
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Well they were asking for Beta testers for the Android version. They could find an issue in this phase that requires them to further delay it. Hopefully that doesn't happen but it would seem like a possibility.
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Old 08-20-2014, 06:16 AM   #104
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The 3rd gen HD and all HDX versions are compatible with 4.2.2 so they should work. But you'll likely need to side load the app. Older HDs and the original fire are based on 4.0.3 so they will not.
Yep, looks like I'm going to have to load CyanogenMod 10.2 (or 11) on my Nook HD+ if I want to use the new app, it runs 4.0.3 stock I think. Fortunately CM is pretty stable on the Nook HDs now.
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Old 08-20-2014, 08:41 AM   #105
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Yep, looks like I'm going to have to load CyanogenMod 10.2 (or 11) on my Nook HD+ if I want to use the new app, it runs 4.0.3 stock I think. Fortunately CM is pretty stable on the Nook HDs now.
Speculation are that rooted devices won't be supported, the same as jail broken IOS devices won't run without some type of additional app to makes the Apple TiVo app not know the device is jail broken.

I haven't come across myself any android app to make another app belive a device is not rooted when it is, but I would guess there might be such?
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Old 08-20-2014, 11:12 AM   #106
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Sure, the Xposed framework with RootCloak module is one. The current Tivo app runs just fine on my stock rooted Nook HD+, hopefully that won't change even if you have to use a newer ROM.

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Old 08-20-2014, 02:37 PM   #107
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Sure, the Xposed framework with RootCloak module is one. The current Tivo app runs just fine on my stock rooted Nook HD+, hopefully that won't change even if you have to use a newer ROM.
While I hate to rain on the parade as I myself prefer Android over Apple, I agree that the current Android app works fine one rooted devices but due to copyright restrictions, it's probable that the new proposed Android app will be much different than the current one as there is no media processing capabilities in the existing TiVo Android app.

It's not TiVo that requires such as much as it's Cablecard Labs licensing. One could speculate such is one of the primary reasons it's been held up for so long. As unfortunate as it is, they are for forced to lock out the possibility that video content can be retrieved from the mobile device.

With Android being a fully opened system once root is obtained, I'm guessing the only way to assure such isn't possible is that such an Android app will have code in it that can detect if root privileges are available. Again perhaps they might use a different type of video transport and encrypted storage so it will just have to be a wait and see situation, hey who knows perhaps root won't be a problem but I seriously doubt it.
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:26 PM   #108
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Got some news from tech support today. Apprently the DVR's, Stream, and both the iOS and Android apps are recieving "groundbreaking" and "revolutionizing" new updates next month.
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Old 08-20-2014, 06:04 PM   #109
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Got some news from tech support today. Apprently the DVR's, Stream, and both the iOS and Android apps are recieving "groundbreaking" and "revolutionizing" new updates next month.
That goes with what I have been "feeling" for a while... Now that the Haxe update is over, I think TiVo has a bunch of stuff ready to move.

Could a whole bunch of the stuff we have been waiting for finally be ready? Wishful thinking?

Only time will tell...
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Got some news from tech support today. Apprently the DVR's, Stream, and both the iOS and Android apps are recieving "groundbreaking" and "revolutionizing" new updates next month.
I hope this doesn't mean that TiVo will bring about "earthquakes" and "war". :-/

I'd be plenty happy with "streaming" and "working". :-)
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I hope this doesn't mean that TiVo will bring about "earthquakes" and "war". :-/

I'd be plenty happy with "streaming" and "working". :-)
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Could a whole bunch of the stuff we have been waiting for finally be ready?
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At least root is easy enough to temporarily disable by just disabling SuperSU in the settings screen. I have to do the with the Starz and Encore streaming apps.
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Old 08-20-2014, 09:29 PM   #114
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That goes with what I have been "feeling" for a while... Now that the Haxe update is over, I think TiVo has a bunch of stuff ready to move.

Could a whole bunch of the stuff we have been waiting for finally be ready? Wishful thinking?

Only time will tell...
Personally I'm really hoping TiVo really does away with the whole proxy limitation for out of home streaming, and am also hoping to see higher resolutions used like 1080i/p and Dolby Digital surround sound on devices capable of it, and most importantly the ability to stream H.264 or MPEG4 channels.
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I almost guarantee once released the app will not work on most android devices.

I have the Android OnePlus One, will be very sad if it is not supported.
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I almost guarantee once released the app will not work on most android devices.

I have the Android OnePlus One, will be very sad if it is not supported.
That's a bad attitude, you must be a glass half empty guy!

What version of Android OS does your have? Those are fairly new devices, don't the come with 4.4?
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Personally I'm really hoping TiVo really does away with the whole proxy limitation for out of home streaming, and am also hoping to see higher resolutions used like 1080i/p and Dolby Digital surround sound on devices capable of it, and most importantly the ability to stream H.264 or MPEG4 channels.
There is always a trade off for bandwidth versus quality, you can't have both and despite 4G networks becoming more popular, the speed is there but the latency is terrible.
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I almost guarantee once released the app will not work on most android devices.

I have the Android OnePlus One, will be very sad if it is not supported.
Stream will support 4.1 (Jelly Bean) and later, the OnePlus One is getting updated to 4.4.4, why would you think it wouldn't be supported?
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There is always a trade off for bandwidth versus quality, you can't have both and despite 4G networks becoming more popular, the speed is there but the latency is terrible.
I have wifi at my office, but because TiVo uses a proxy, it will not work on my network. I am also hoping to get rid of the TiVo Proxy server!
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I have wifi at my office, but because TiVo uses a proxy, it will not work on my network. I am also hoping to get rid of the TiVo Proxy server!

Aren't ya suppose to work at work?

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