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Old 05-01-2014, 11:10 PM   #1
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The Big Bang Theory [05/01/14] "The Proton Transmogrification"

I thought this was a good episode. However, I can't believe they killed Professor Proton. Jim Parsons and Bob Newhart interacted so well together. I don't see them bringing Newhart back as Obi Wan Proton. I know Newhart was only on a couple of times, but they were all so good.

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Old 05-01-2014, 11:42 PM   #2
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I am amused that Sheldon enjoys the political intrigue and the way Palpatine manipulated the Senate as the best parts of Episode I.

I'm in the same category. I find most of the film to be vacuous but the poltical machinations of Palpatine, building towards Emperor, which we only glimpse, are the best parts of the movie.

I really AM Sheldon, as my sister keeps telling me.
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Old 05-02-2014, 05:02 AM   #3
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I'm guessing Bob Newhart doesn't want to do many more of these at his age, but really, this doesn't change how easy or hard it would be for them to bring him back if he does want to.
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He sure seemed to have fun doing the Kenobi stuff...I've never seen Captain Proton look that delighted, and rarely Bob Newhart.
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He sure seemed to have fun doing the Kenobi stuff...I've never seen Captain Proton look that delighted, and rarely Bob Newhart.
My thoughts exactly...he smiled more this episode than I've seen Newhart/Proton smile the past several years...
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Old 05-02-2014, 06:59 AM   #6
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Isn't it Professor Proton?

I love Newhart's comic timing and thought he was great in this episode.

Loved Penny's reaction to knowing some of the Star Wars geeky stuff!
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Isn't it Professor Proton?
He's a hero to me.

(That's my story and I'm sticking to it! )
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Loved Penny's reaction to knowing some of the Star Wars geeky stuff!
I really enjoyed Penny and Leonard's interplay this week.

And Penny looked really good dressed up for the funeral. Her hair looked nicer than it has in awhile it seems.
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Old 05-02-2014, 09:22 AM   #9
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I couldn't help but think of John Ritter's death when Penny was saying she had never been to a funeral before.

I really liked it when Sheldon gave Leonard the hug. I wish they would've left it at that and not immediately turned Sheldon back into Sheldon. Just give me a few minutes to enjoy him becoming more human. :P
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I couldn't help but think of John Ritter's death when Penny was saying she had never been to a funeral before.

I really liked it when Sheldon gave Leonard the hug. I wish they would've left it at that and not immediately turned Sheldon back into Sheldon. Just give me a few minutes to enjoy him becoming more human. :P
Yes. I wish they had left it at that.

As much as I enjoy Professor Jedi Proton and Sheldon, and it was done well. and (why wouldn't Professor Proton be happy now that he is out of pain?) I hope they don't keep bringing him back. That would be sort of creepy.
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That would be sort of creepy.
He did say he had to come back any time that Sheldon needed him, so the door is wide open for future appearances.
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I couldn't help but think of John Ritter's death when Penny was saying she had never been to a funeral before. I really liked it when Sheldon gave Leonard the hug. I wish they would've left it at that and not immediately turned Sheldon back into Sheldon. Just give me a few minutes to enjoy him becoming more human. :P
Why? For a fantasy? He is Sheldon. He does have human feelings. He denies them or doesn't know how to express them but he has them. The Sheldon story was about him processing his grief. It wouldn't change his base nature. Very few deaths of people outside of immediate family do. Why should it change him? We saw a glimpse (not the first time) of the person inside. Not a tidal change in his base.

Any lingering over it would feel odd to me and make me think they were changing the character. Going back to normal was normal.
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Yes. I wish they had left it at that. As much as I enjoy Professor Jedi Proton and Sheldon, and it was done well. and (why wouldn't Professor Proton be happy now that he is out of pain?) I hope they don't keep bringing him back. That would be sort of creepy.
Why would it be creepy?
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I really AM Sheldon, as my sister keeps telling me.
Except you get sarcasm
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Except you get sarcasm
Yeah. I'm much better at humor than Sheldon is, too. And I'm not that thin anymore, alas.
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I loved the reference to the machete order of the movies.
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I loved the reference to the machete order of the movies.
I loved it so much I was considering watching them in Machete order on May 4th. But then I realized I have other plans and not enough time.
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I loved the reference to the machete order of the movies.
Except that über-geeks like this would already know about that and wouldn't need Raj to say, "On the internet, I read about this thing called the 'Machete Order.'" It would have been more realistic if they all mocked Raj for making that kind of comment as if it wasn't already common knowledge to all of them.

I did enjoy seeing how happy Bob Newhart appeared when he was swinging the light saber around.
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Except that über-geeks like this would already know about that and wouldn't need Raj to say, "On the internet, I read about this thing called the 'Machete Order.'" It would have been more realistic if they all mocked Raj for making that kind of comment as if it wasn't already common knowledge to all of them.
For that matter, all the "Star Wars trivia" that Penny knew was stuff that I think just about anybody with a pulse would know.

But I've said for years this is no longer a show about geeks...it's a show about stereotypes of geeks. Geeks are not the target audience. People who wouldn't know a Machete Order from an order of fries are.
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For that matter, all the "Star Wars trivia" that Penny knew was stuff that I think just about anybody with a pulse would know.

But I've said for years this is no longer a show about geeks...it's a show about stereotypes of geeks. Geeks are not the target audience. People who wouldn't know a Machete Order from an order of fries are.
Of course the show would have had to explain to the viewing audience what the Machete Order is, but to present it as if it were some novel concept that only Raj knew about was not the right way to introduce it.
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Of course the show would have had to explain to the viewing audience what the Machete Order is, but to present it as if it were some novel concept that only Raj knew about was not the right way to introduce it.
But if it were going to be a genuine show about geek culture, than virtually everything they do would have to be different.

It just ain't that kind of show. It doesn't do ANYTHING "the right way." Which is why more than a handful of people watch it.
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There are geeks and there are geeks. Most of my friends are geeks but i don't think any if them heard about the machete order before last night. Just because you are a geek does not mean you know every aspect of geekdom.

Geeks would know that.
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I had never heard of it, and I'd consider myself a geek. I'm just not that big of a Star Wars geek.
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I had never heard of it, and I'd consider myself a geek. I'm just not that big of a Star Wars geek.
Me too. Heck, I even hated the first movie when it first came out. I have no clue what a machete order is or what it means (why it's called that). I didn't even understand the explanation when Raj said it.
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Me too. Heck, I even hated the first movie when it first came out. I have no clue what a machete order is or what it means (why it's called that). I didn't even understand the explanation when Raj said it.
It means watch them in this order: IV, V, II, III, VI
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Me too. Heck, I even hated the first movie when it first came out. I have no clue what a machete order is or what it means (why it's called that). I didn't even understand the explanation when Raj said it.
Zordude explained what it is, but not why it is called Machete Order. The answer: the guy that came up with it [1] published it on his blog named "Absolutely No Machete Juggling."

[1] He admits he didn't so much come up with the idea; he just modified an idea that another individual came up with first by dropping episode I.
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I had never heard of it, and I'd consider myself a geek. I'm just not that big of a Star Wars geek.
Looks like you have company (i.e. lots of other people were looking it up).

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I only knew about the Machete Order from seeing it mentioned in a couple threads here on TCF. I didn't know what the order actually was or why it was called that.

But as I said before, people who love the movies so much that they are planning to spend the whole day on May 4th watching them would know that stuff.
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I am in no way a geek, however I did know about the alternative order, but not what it was called.
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