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Old 12-02-2013, 12:59 AM   #1
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Homeland S03E10 "Good Night" EOD 2013-12-01 ***spoilers***

"What about him?"
That Javadi just loves making a quick shot to the forehead.

Let's hope we see him get that same treatment soon.


"You'll find a way to get me out."

Not a bad episode. They found the flick again.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:38 AM   #2
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Yeah, pretty good episode.

That guy should have just let Brody go by himself after the firefight died down and the US team left.

As soon as they were captured, I said to my g/f, that guy's f**ked.

Also, I know Saul was upset his plan was disrupted, but why the hell did he leave the command center? I think anyone who is the acting director of the CIA in the middle of a botched operation with a Seal-like team, would have stayed in the room until the end. Yes, I know it converted to a military operation at that point, but still, he just leaves? Leaving the senator there by himself? This part really bugged me.
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:02 PM   #3
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Ya know that Javardi plans to off Brody as soon as he kills his boss.
Shooting Brody's bud was not in his orders from Saul.
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:56 PM   #4
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Ok, maybe someone can explain this. According to the Iranian girl (and the CIA), Javadi was responsible for siphoning millions of dollars from the Iranian government (or businesses, whatever) to fund terrorism, including the Langley bombing. Everyone seems to think Javadi was the guy. But then Brody goes waltzing into Iran, saying he's asking for asylum because he's the Langley bomber. Wouldn't the higher-up Iranians know that he's not the bomber and that by believing him and granting him asylum, they would know it's a front to the plot?
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:09 PM   #5
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You have it wrong Hank, Javadi siphoned millions of dollars that the Iranian govt was using to fund terrorist activities to himself. That is why Saul/the CIA is able to blackmail him.
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There you go insisting on logic. Maybe only Javadi knows how the bombing went down.

You do still have the issue we mentioned before that once Javadi gets high enough in the government maybe he won't have anybody to fear about his embezzling. It's not like Iran has an active press.

And being that he has stashed away $millions Javadi must have planned to take a hike at some point.
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:15 PM   #7
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Ya know that Javardi plans to off Brody as soon as he kills his boss.
Shooting Brody's bud was not in his orders from Saul.
I don't think Javadi has any knowledge of the Brody part of the plan.
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But then Brody goes waltzing into Iran, saying he's asking for asylum because he's the Langley bomber.
Actually, I think he only said he was wanted in the US for the Langley bombing, not that he actually did it.

And that much is completely true.
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:17 PM   #9
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You have it wrong Hank, Javadi siphoned millions of dollars that the Iranian govt was using to fund terrorist activities to himself. That is why Saul/the CIA is able to blackmail him.
I'm pretty sure that several characters in the CIA and White House said that Javadi was responsible for the bombing -- like when Saul released Javadi back to Iran.
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:19 PM   #10
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The value of Brody to the Iranian government is for propaganda, not because they think they can use him for further terrorist acts. It doesn't really matter if he actually did the bombing, what matters is that everyone thinks he did the bombing. It doesn't matter if the Iranian intelligence people know he didn't do it, as long as the average person in Iran thinks he did it. But I don't think they know that Brody didn't do it, my guess is that they know he was working with Nazer, and didn't really know exactly who planted the bomb, just that it was some connected to Nazer.
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:21 PM   #11
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I don't think Javadi has any knowledge of the Brody part of the plan.
Disagree. Javadi started right off with, "I'll take you to Tehran." He's been told.

Remember how Javadi grilled Carrie? Not Brody.
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I'm pretty sure that several characters in the CIA and White House said that Javadi was responsible for the bombing -- like when Saul released Javadi back to Iran.
That doesn't negate what I said. Assuming Javadi is the Iranian "Minister for funding terrorists" he was the man who got Nazir and co the money for the Langley bombing (and probably funded others as well). This was in his "official" capacity as a government minister. However while sending money to Nazir (and anyone else), he skimmed multi-millions from those accounts and diverted it to himself. It is the skimming that the Iranian government will execute him for, not the money sent to Nazir.
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Right. The fact that he embezzled from the Iranian terrorism fund is the leverage Saul has over him. If he reveals that information, Javadi will be a known traitor to his country.
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Did Javadi ever reveal what his exit plan was, if any? I don't see how he ever could have spent all (or most) of that money for fun and entertainment without being caught. Was he planning to retire in Belize? I don't imagine he was planning to give the money to his sick aunt, or to the widows and orphans...
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Did Javadi ever reveal what his exit plan was, if any? I don't see how he ever could have spent all (or most) of that money for fun and entertainment without being caught. Was he planning to retire in Belize? I don't imagine he was planning to give the money to his sick aunt, or to the widows and orphans...
When he said, " I can't go back" it looked like he was planning on joining with his money in South America.
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Ya know that Javardi plans to off Brody as soon as he kills his boss.
Shooting Brody's bud was not in his orders from Saul.
I think Javadi shot Brody's bud because the risk of him breaking under torture (and blowing the play) was too great.
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The thing that bugged me about the episode was how close it appeared that the Iranian soldiers were to everything that went down prior to Brody and the other dude being captured. Their cover story was that they were a small Al-Qaeda faction tasked with getting Brody over the border. How did they explain the drone strike or whatever "Hellfire" was? Surely the Iranians were close enough to see that all go down?
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The thing that bugged me about the episode was how close it appeared that the Iranian soldiers were to everything that went down prior to Brody and the other dude being captured. Their cover story was that they were a small Al-Qaeda faction tasked with getting Brody over the border. How did they explain the drone strike or whatever "Hellfire" was? Surely the Iranians were close enough to see that all go down?
Yea well remember the Iranians have a US mole now and that mole can say be here at this time. Perhaps that mole was listening to the same feed Saul was listening to.
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The thing that bugged me about the episode was how close it appeared that the Iranian soldiers were to everything that went down prior to Brody and the other dude being captured. Their cover story was that they were a small Al-Qaeda faction tasked with getting Brody over the border. How did they explain the drone strike or whatever "Hellfire" was? Surely the Iranians were close enough to see that all go down?
Easy. These Al-Quada patriots survived the drone strike.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:55 AM   #20
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Did Javadi ever reveal what his exit plan was, if any? I don't see how he ever could have spent all (or most) of that money for fun and entertainment without being caught. Was he planning to retire in Belize? I don't imagine he was planning to give the money to his sick aunt, or to the widows and orphans...
When he first spoke with Saul, he said something on the order of "OK, I'm going to need access to my money and a secure compound in Miami". I think he thought that Saul's play was to keep him in the US and squeeze what information he could out of him. I suspect his plan was to bleed out the information as slowly as possible and set up a way to get himself to somewhere safe from the US government. IIRC he had enough money socked away to bribe the entire executive branch of a small country.
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I think Javadi shot Brody's bud because the risk of him breaking under torture (and blowing the play) was too great.
I agree, even if the special ops guy didn't know about Javadi, it is possible that he'd give up the fact that he wasn't Al-Queda.

Javadi did the right thing (as much to save his ass as anything else), the special ops guy should have left Brody when things went south.
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When he first spoke with Saul, he said something on the order of "OK, I'm going to need access to my money and a secure compound in Miami". I think he thought that Saul's play was to keep him in the US and squeeze what information he could out of him. I suspect his plan was to bleed out the information as slowly as possible and set up a way to get himself to somewhere safe from the US government. IIRC he had enough money socked away to bribe the entire executive branch of a small country.
I think you misunderstood my question. I meant what was Javadi planning to do before Saul "caught" him.
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I think you misunderstood my question. I meant what was Javadi planning to do before Saul "caught" him.
Keep skimming money until something or someone forced him out of power and then "retire" somewhere.
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Keep skimming money until something or someone forced him out of power and then "retire" somewhere.
Or until he couldn't skim any more.
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The thing that bugged me about the episode was how close it appeared that the Iranian soldiers were to everything that went down prior to Brody and the other dude being captured.
What's even more disturbing is that the Iranians and their vehicles didn't show up on the drone's FLIR.
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1. The "mole" was identified as Saul's wife's lover.
2. That mole has been neutralized.
3. Javadi in his mind had to kill "special ops redshirt" so he wouldn't get tortured and break
4. the Iranians stealth technology must be quite good :O (sigh for dramatic writing)
5. as stated, Javadi stole from his own country, big no no
6. How in the heck will a baby be able to survive in this environment? Hank, I'm sure you are ready to start the hate parade on Carrie and Brody's 15 week old love child. That thing should be dead by now, no way any human baby could survive in these conditions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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