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Old 01-10-2014, 01:44 PM   #61
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Really if you want Amazon Instant the Roku is the only way to go. I does stream Amazon Instant the most reliable though.
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Old 01-10-2014, 04:09 PM   #62
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Really if you want Amazon Instant the Roku is the only way to go. I does stream Amazon Instant the most reliable though.
Xbox One is awesome for Amazon Instant.
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Old 01-10-2014, 07:10 PM   #63
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Xbox One is awesome for Amazon Instant.
Does it let you actually rent movies are do you have to initiate it from the website (like on the 360)? I found the Xbox 360 Amazon Instant app to be a pretty lacking implementation.
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Old 01-12-2014, 04:03 AM   #64
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We have an April deadline for making a decision about Amazon Prime Instant Video support for the coming year, as that's when our XBox Live Gold renewal comes due. I hate relying on XBox 360 for Amazon streaming. We could use a laptop connected to our system, but that's a pita to deal with in terms of pause and play. We could address some of that with our Push2TV 1000 but it's a little choppy sometimes.
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Old 01-13-2014, 09:36 AM   #65
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Does it let you actually rent movies are do you have to initiate it from the website (like on the 360)? I found the Xbox 360 Amazon Instant app to be a pretty lacking implementation.
I'm not sure. I only use Prime streaming.
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:08 AM   #66
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Should i give up hope on this and just get a roku?
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:55 AM   #67
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Should i give up hope on this and just get a roku?
Yes but for other reasons. Roku offers a LOT more streaming options over the TiVo.

I've learned to just appreciate TiVo for what it does well -- DVR and iOS app support.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:26 PM   #68
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Should i give up hope on this and just get a roku?
Rokus are great and I highly recommend that you get one ASAP. The idea of having one box to do everything is likely never going to happen. Different devices do different things well. I have a Roamio, Roku, and Chromecast. Each of them has its purpose.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:31 PM   #69
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I have a Romaio, a Smart TV and a Chromecast. I use the Roamio for Netflix and YouTube, and the Smart TV for Amazon, VUDU and HBOGo. If TiVo offered apps for those services I'd probably never use the "smart" part of my TV again. I never use the Chromecast at all. Luckily it was only $11 after you count the free Netflix subscription I got with it, so not big loss.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:42 PM   #70
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I have a Romaio, a Smart TV and a Chromecast. I use the Roamio for Netflix and YouTube, and the Smart TV for Amazon, VUDU and HBOGo. If TiVo offered apps for those services I'd probably never use the "smart" part of my TV again. I never use the Chromecast at all. Luckily it was only $11 after you count the free Netflix subscription I got with it, so not big loss.
Ditto about the Chromecast. It's still sitting on my shelf unopened from Christmas. It was a nice thought, but between my Tivo, Apple TV, Blue-Ray player and Xbox, I have no need for it.
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Old 02-20-2014, 01:08 PM   #71
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Roku is definitely a great solution for Netflix, Amazon Prime, and other streaming services. I have Roku 2; cost about $75 or less. Absolutely cannot beat this for ease of use and price.

I will say the latest Netflix app on Roamio is quite good, much improved over the Premiere I had. Also YouTube app seems pretty strong. An you can use Amazon but not the Prime on TiVo. Too bad they can't get the amazon Prime app going as I think TiVo would be just about the one box solution for me with this.

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Old 02-20-2014, 01:41 PM   #72
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Does it let you actually rent movies are do you have to initiate it from the website (like on the 360)? I found the Xbox 360 Amazon Instant app to be a pretty lacking implementation.
You can do it all on the Roku, both the free Prime content and the stuff you want to buy. You need to link it with your amazon account, but it is pretty easy.
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:06 PM   #73
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You can do it all on the Roku, both the free Prime content and the stuff you want to buy. You need to link it with your amazon account, but it is pretty easy.
The version on TiVo is actually different then any other device. All other devices stream Amazon content, even stuff you purchase, and the maximum quality for HD is 720p. TiVo's download purchased/rented content and they actually support full 1080p/24fps. So if your primary concern is quality then downloading to a TiVo is actually a better option then streaming to any other device.
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:11 PM   #74
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I hope you guys are keeping those Chromecasts handy, now that the floodgates are open... if I had an HDMI receiver, I'd be buying a 2nd one just to stream music.
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The version on TiVo is actually different then any other device. All other devices stream Amazon content, even stuff you purchase, and the maximum quality for HD is 720p. TiVo's download purchased/rented content and they actually support full 1080p/24fps. So if your primary concern is quality then downloading to a TiVo is actually a better option then streaming to any other device.
and the only way those of us who have to use slow DSL can purchase good HD content from the Internet. Streaming would be great but until Frontier gets there heads out of their A**es and upgrades their equipment I am SOL in the evening.
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:37 PM   #76
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I hope you guys are keeping those Chromecasts handy, now that the floodgates are open... if I had an HDMI receiver, I'd be buying a 2nd one just to stream music.
I'm not really sure what that means, but I have plenty of options for streaming music as it is, so doubt that will be the reason I finally get to it.
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I'm not really sure what that means, but I have plenty of options for streaming music as it is, so doubt that will be the reason I finally get to it.
It means that Google recently opened up app development for the Chromecast to third parties.

The main reason I got a Chromecast is because those fools over at Comcast won't allow you to use the Roku HBOGo app or the Roku ShowtimeAnytime app like everyone else will. There is a Chromecast app for HBOGo and it works very well. Unfortunately, there is not yet a Showtime app for Chromecast, so you are forced to use the "cast a tab" app which does not work nearly as well.
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Old 04-02-2014, 04:50 PM   #78
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Well, now we know why there is not going to be Prime Streaming on the TiVo, Amazon just announced their own ATV competitor. Sucks. They expect us to have separate boxes for everything.
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Well, now we know why there is not going to be Prime Streaming on the TiVo, Amazon just announced their own ATV competitor. Sucks. They expect us to have separate boxes for everything.
I don't understand your logic. Prime Streaming is available on many many platforms. Releasing their own box doesn't mean they're suddenly going to stop supporting all those platforms or stop developing for new ones.
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I don't understand your logic. Prime Streaming is available on many many platforms. Releasing their own box doesn't mean they're suddenly going to stop supporting all those platforms or stop developing for new ones.
I can think of no other explanation since Roamio should have had prime streaming months ago. Maybe amazon having their own box changes the equation for them. After all, apple is their big competitor in this area and apple doesn't allow playback of their content on non apple devices.
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After all, apple is their big competitor in this area and apple doesn't allow playback of their content on non apple devices.
This is Apple's greatest weakness in the long term. It is how Microsoft beat Apple on the desktop and it will be how Amazon and Google will beat Apple in the purchased media business.
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This is Apple's greatest weakness in the long term. It is how Microsoft beat Apple on the desktop and it will be how Amazon and Google will beat Apple in the purchased media business.
Maybe. Apple were the ones who got DRM free music available so they might like to do that for video as well.
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Maybe. Apple were the ones who got DRM free music available so they might like to do that for video as well.
And in usual Apple fashion, they will charge you more for it.

There is a big difference though between music and movies given that you can buy a CD and all the music on it is DRM free, so selling DRM free music downloads wasn't really that hard to get the music studios to agree to it. You don't have the option of purchasing movies on physical media that is DRM free, so DRM free movie downloads would be a lot tougher to swallow by the TV/movie industry.

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And in usual Apple fashion, they will charge you more for it.

There is a big difference though between music and movies given that you can buy a CD and all the music on it is DRM free, so selling DRM free music downloads wasn't really that hard to get the music studios to agree to it. You don't have the option of purchasing movies on physical media that is DRM free, so DRM free movie downloads would be a lot tougher to swallow by the TV/movie industry.
Apple doesn't charge anything "extra" for getting non DRM versions of audio tracks. They just show up that way. They advocated for it. I don't think the studios though are playing ball when it comes to DRM.
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Apple doesn't charge anything "extra" for getting non DRM versions of audio tracks. They just show up that way. They advocated for it. I don't think the studios though are playing ball when it comes to DRM.
I still don't see Amazon abandoning support for Prime on existing or new 3rd party platforms. Their main drive is to sell content and Prime subscriptions, not the new box. It's just one more way to sell. I still think we'll see Prime streaming on TiVo eventually, though I agree it's ridiculous that it's taking this long.
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I can think of no other explanation since Roamio should have had prime streaming months ago. Maybe amazon having their own box changes the equation for them. After all, apple is their big competitor in this area and apple doesn't allow playback of their content on non apple devices.
They should have had it years ago on the Premiere but they never did. I doubt this new device is going to effect the availability on TiVo one way or the other.
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I can think of no other explanation since Roamio should have had prime streaming months ago. Maybe amazon having their own box changes the equation for them. After all, apple is their big competitor in this area and apple doesn't allow playback of their content on non apple devices.
I would think it would be more likely because the number of people owning the TiVos is so small.

Plus the more boxes that have Amazon streaming the more subscribers they can get. I don't see how an expensive streaming box will do much to replace other streaming boxes which already work great and costs less. $99 is alot for a streaming only box.
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$99 is alot for a streaming only box.
But it can play games too.
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But it can play games too.
Yes if forgot about that. i wish they had a less expensive version that didn't play games and didn't have voice recognition. Then drop the quad core processor to lower the price even more.

I'm going to get one but I don't want to pay $99. So i will wait until BestBuy gets them and use my $75 in reward zone dollars toward it. Plus that will reduce my taxes. With Amazon i would have to pay taxes on the full $99. WHile at BestBuy I won't get charged taxes for the portion paid with the Reward Zone Dollars.
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Someone posted something a few weeks ago that showed a small dongle like device akin to a Chromecast with an Amazon logo on it. Maybe that's their plan for a player only device?
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