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Old 11-05-2013, 03:28 PM   #61
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Well the Farm season finale showed that the walkers move in a herd toward some stimulus.
So I would imagine they were all leaving town to go somewhere. They just moved around to the side of the herd.

Now perhaps we will see the reason for the herd in a subsequent episode.
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Old 11-05-2013, 03:33 PM   #62
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I'm kind of on the side that Carol did the right thing for the rest of the group, in killing those two and burning the bodies. Looks like Rick wants it to be a Ricktatorship again, in having decided to give her the toss. But, OTOH, I like the idea of him doing it for her own good in knowing what Ty would likely do when he found out. I really don't see the need for him to tell anybody, but whatever.
Well, the alternative to telling everyone would be either a) never solving the case or b) pinning it on someone else in the prison. Neither of these is an acceptable course in the long run.
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:07 PM   #63
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Well, the alternative to telling everyone would be either a) never solving the case or b) pinning it on someone else in the prison. Neither of these is an acceptable course in the long run.
Yeah, you're right. I just felt that, at the time Carol made that decision, I believe she totally thought she was doing the right thing to protect the population. Then it didn't turn out that well and I guess I thought it could possibly go away. That was foolish thinking on my part.
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:35 PM   #64
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Boozy guy - was hoping he was going to be pushed over the side. Disappointed he wasn't. He showed that he had no value.
I agree and wanted him fed to walkers in the first episode of the season. Unfortunately, he is one of the few people with medical training. He knew which meds were needed and mentioned using IVs to administer the antibiotics.
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:40 AM   #65
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Wasn't there talk of a Walking Dead spin-off? Maybe Carol is going to be part of the spin-off. Rick did tell her she will find a new group.
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:40 AM   #66
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Did they ever explain who was feeding the walkers with the rats, and why? I've assUmed it was the little girl that was naming them. But I don't recall that they ever established that.
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Old 11-06-2013, 06:37 AM   #67
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I don't understand all this talk of Rick being a leader again. He did not approve of Carol's actions and told her he could no longer trust her around his kids. He made a decision for himself, not the tribe, and threatened her with the only leverage he had (she would die if she came back).
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:39 AM   #68
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I don't see many choices for Rick: He had made the personal decision that he couldn't keep it to himself so at that point the only 2 choices were to have her leave or for her to come back and face the wrath of Tyrese and everybody else. Even if he doesn't kill her, what is that going to do to life at the prison? Sides will be drawn....no good can come of it.

She was an instrumental part of the "council" and betrayed it by making her own decision.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:47 AM   #69
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Please explain the beginning sequence!

I am so confused. At the beginning, it looked like they showed RICK knifing a sick woman and dragging her body outside. What the heck was that??
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:50 AM   #70
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I am so confused. At the beginning, it looked like they showed RICK knifing a sick woman and dragging her body outside. What the heck was that??
He was picturing Carol knifing the sick woman and then picturing Carol dragging the woman outside (to later burn her body)...he was being a detective and we were seeing what he was imagining (the crime scene).
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:20 PM   #71
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I am so confused. At the beginning, it looked like they showed RICK knifing a sick woman and dragging her body outside. What the heck was that??
It was Rick looking into the room where karen was killed and then it cut to a flashback scene showing what he was also imagining, Carol killing Karen in that room and then cut back to Rick looking into the room. Then it showed Rick looking down the hallway where Carol had dragged the body and then it cut to another flashback scene of Carol dragging the body around the corner.
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:42 PM   #72
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It was Rick looking into the room where karen was killed and then it cut to a flashback scene showing what he was also imagining, Carol killing Karen in that room and then cut back to Rick looking into the room. Then it showed Rick looking down the hallway where Carol had dragged the body and then it cut to another flashback scene of Carol dragging the body around the corner.
Ah that explains a lot. For some reason I missed the aspect of it being a flashback and thought the knifing and dragging them out had become SOP for handling the sick people, which left me wondering why Rick was cutting Karen loose.
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:49 PM   #73
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It was Rick looking into the room where karen was killed and then it cut to a flashback scene showing what he was also imagining, Carol killing Karen in that room and then cut back to Rick looking into the room. Then it showed Rick looking down the hallway where Carol had dragged the body and then it cut to another flashback scene of Carol dragging the body around the corner.
What if the little girl with the knife actually killed the two people and Carol dragged them out and burned the bodies and then took the blame to protect her? Hmmm ...
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What if the little girl with the knife actually killed the two people and Carol dragged them out and burned the bodies and then took the blame to protect her? Hmmm ...
My daughter is about the same size and build. No way she could have dragged those bodies. None.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:31 PM   #75
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My daughter is about the same size and build. No way she could have dragged those bodies. None.
That's not what was said; he said "...Carol dragged them out..."
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Old 11-06-2013, 03:00 PM   #76
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What if the little girl with the knife actually killed the two people and Carol dragged them out and burned the bodies and then took the blame to protect her? Hmmm ...
Never thought of that but it makes A LOT of sense. Hope this is how it turns out but her taking the blame for killing them was dumb, IMO. No way would Ty or anyone else want to see harm come to a little girl.
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Never thought of that but it makes A LOT of sense.
Not really. If the girl killed them, and Carol wanted to cover for her, why not just say that they died, and Carol stabbed them before they could turn, just like she did with everyone else who died from the virus. Why go through the theater of dragging the bodies outside to burn them and then come up with a story about how you wanted to stop the virus.
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Old 11-06-2013, 04:07 PM   #78
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What if the little girl with the knife actually killed the two people and Carol dragged them out and burned the bodies and then took the blame to protect her? Hmmm ...
What if unicorns are real?

If that were the case, they wouldn't have had the flashback scenes at all.
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:00 PM   #79
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What if unicorns are real?

If that were the case, they wouldn't have had the flashback scenes at all.
Actually, as was stated, the flashbacks were a visual representation of Rick piecing it together in his head. Looking at the clues and figuring "This is what happened".
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:25 PM   #80
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Damn...I like pretty much everyone out of the core group that's left (Daryl, Maggie, Glenn, Michonne, Carol) so it sucks to see one of them tossed out. Obviously that's not the last we'll be seeing of her, and I'm sure the rest of the crew is gonna be pissed that Rick decided to exile her without voting on it. I get that he felt he had to protect his kids but at the same time, it's a stretch for him to think she would hurt either of them based on what she did here, which was kill two relative strangers who she knew were dead anyway, in an attempt to save everyone else. That doesn't mean she would kill one of Rick's kids. But I get it.

Still, everyone else will be pissed - she's part of their family and they've all been together for over a year, some of them since the very beginning of the outbreak. Now if someone exiled Tyreese, I don't think anyone would care. Like others, I have no idea who he's supposed to be in the comics but that dude just absolutely drains every scene he's in. Poorly written and poorly acted in my opinion. A lot of the character drama so far is stemming from his reaction to Karen's death, and it's dumb because we saw them together for one episode, why would we be invested in this story at all? if someone killed Maggie and the storyline focused on Glen's thirst for vengeance, it would make sense.

They definitely seemed to be spinning some Daryl/Michonne vibes, so maybe now that Carol's gone that's what they were setting up? But if Daryl and Carol have been an actual couple for the last few months (and possibly since before the prison), there's no way he's gonna just stay in the prison - he's gonna go looking for her, and she'll be brought back in. My guess is that she stumbles onto the Governor and wins back the hearts and minds of the prison by tipping them off.
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:05 AM   #81
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If that were the case, they wouldn't have had the flashback scenes at all.
They were not flashbacks.
It was Rick's imagination- what he deduced probably happened.
Not fact at all.
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What if the little girl with the knife actually killed the two people and Carol dragged them out and burned the bodies and then took the blame to protect her? Hmmm ...
I think you may be on to something there.

As Beryl said, it was dumb to drag the bodies outside, everything probably would have been ok if she told the group what happened, but wasn't Carol worried about what the group would think of her teaching the kids knife fighting skills? Carol's covering up the knifing could be in response to that.

In my mind the little girl doing the killing makes more sense than Carol doing it.
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If the girl did it Carol probably would have told Rick. What's he going to say? "Only my kid can kill people."
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I think you may be on to something there.

As Beryl said, it was dumb to drag the bodies outside, everything probably would have been ok if she told the group what happened, but wasn't Carol worried about what the group would think of her teaching the kids knife fighting skills? Carol's covering up the knifing could be in response to that.

In my mind the little girl doing the killing makes more sense than Carol doing it.
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Not really. If the girl killed them, and Carol wanted to cover for her, why not just say that they died, and Carol stabbed them before they could turn, just like she did with everyone else who died from the virus. Why go through the theater of dragging the bodies outside to burn them and then come up with a story about how you wanted to stop the virus.
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Not really. If the girl killed them, and Carol wanted to cover for her, why not just say that they died, and Carol stabbed them before they could turn, just like she did with everyone else who died from the virus. Why go through the theater of dragging the bodies outside to burn them and then come up with a story about how you wanted to stop the virus.
You're thinking too logically for this show.
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If the girl did it Carol probably would have told Rick. What's he going to say? "Only my kid can kill people."
I agree. I would have to assume that she would tell him BEFORE being exiled.
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They were not flashbacks.
It was Rick's imagination- what he deduced probably happened.
Not fact at all.
A flashback is a scene set in a time earlier than what's currently happening. It does not always have to be a memory. The scene in question was Rick thinking about what happened, but to show that that is what he's thinking, they show us the facts of what happened.
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A flashback is a scene set in a time earlier than what's currently happening. It does not always have to be a memory. The scene in question was Rick thinking about what happened, but to show that that is what he's thinking, they show us the facts of what happened.
That makes no sense.

"We don't show what he's thinking, we show what happened, to you know, show that he's thinking"
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A flashback is a scene set in a time earlier than what's currently happening. It does not always have to be a memory. The scene in question was Rick thinking about what happened, but to show that that is what he's thinking, they show us the facts of what happened.
I would have to agree. There would be no reason for them to show us that scene if something different had happened. I'd take that scene as fact.
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I would have to agree. There would be no reason for them to show us that scene if something different had happened. I'd take that scene as fact.
I disagree. It was his notion of what happened. He could be wrong.

The reason they showed it was to show us what he was thinking, not to show us what happened.
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