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Old 04-04-2013, 07:43 PM   #1
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The Big Bang Theory "The Tenure Turbulence" (OAD 4/4/2013, Spoilers)

I'm not sure if that helps to clarify what position Raj, Sheldon, and Leonard have or not. I would guess if they're all trying to get tenure that they are currently... adjunct lecturers, perhaps? I would say that this does seem to indicate strongly that they aren't post-docs, at least not anymore.

I would have to say, AFF raised a very good question about Penny tonight.... although personally, the "how" doesn't really seem to be a particularly important question.

(Someone is welcome to re-post the screen grab of this episode from last week's thread. I won't complain too much. )
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:57 PM   #2
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I think it makes it crystal clear what positions they have: Nothing that even vaguely resembles any position a faculty member at a research university has ever had.

Tenure is not competitive. You earn tenure by winning a tenure-track position (i.e., an Assistant Professorship), and then putting in several years of fairly grueling teaching and research. You then apply for tenure, and are granted or denied it on the basis of the quality of your teaching and research.

If somebody with tenure dies, it doesn't mean they give somebody else tenure. It just means there is an opening in the department. It might be filled by a tenured professor (from another institution), or a tenure-track position (filled by a national job search).

But this show, as has been noted in the past, does not take place in an actual physics department. It takes place on a sit-com set, where behavior and situations are governed by the desire to make millions of people laugh, not by what happens in physics departments.
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Ok, ok, fair enough. That said, the closest real-world analogue to their very fictional positions would probably be adjunct lecturer, I'd guess.
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:15 PM   #4
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Ok, ok, fair enough. That said, the closest real-world analogue to their very fictional positions would probably be adjunct lecturer, I'd guess.
But adjunct lecturers aren't eligible for tenure. In fact, adjunct lecturers are hired for the very purpose of having teachers to whom you never have to give tenure.

Nope, it's clearly just fantasy-land, with no correlation whatsoever to real academic life.

Four posts, and we're still on topic!

Wow, Penny's breasts sure looked feloniously drunk tonight...
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:37 PM   #5
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:02 PM   #6
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They could just be (non adjunct) Lecturers. Lecturers can be given tenure and are part of the faculty, but do not hold the title of "Professor". My mother was a tenured lecturer for the University of California for 30 years (until she died).

Of course, Lecturers don't typically do research. They only teach.

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Old 04-05-2013, 01:45 AM   #7
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Are they at a funeral???
As a matter of fact, yes, yes they are.
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Old 04-05-2013, 02:57 AM   #9
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Penny's dress.

Dayum.
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Old 04-05-2013, 05:53 AM   #10
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:30 AM   #11
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They could just be (non adjunct) Lecturers. Lecturers can be given tenure and are part of the faculty, but do not hold the title of "Professor". My mother was a tenured lecturer for the University of California for 30 years (until she died).

Of course, Lecturers don't typically do research. They only teach.
And of course The Boys rarely do research, and never teach.

Arguing about what faculty positions The Boys have is like arguing about what basketball position Derek Jeter plays. It could get lively, sure, but it would be utterly meaningless.
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And of course The Boys rarely do research, and never teach.
Let's bring this discussion back on topic? Can we have more discussions and screengrabs of "The Girls". - Penny's girls, that is!

Yowza!
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What were the lines?

Leonard "Do it"
Penny removes her jacket for the 'reveal'
Sheldon "Did she do it yet?"


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Old 04-05-2013, 07:20 AM   #14
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Are they at a funeral???
As a matter of fact, yes, yes they are.
Actually, I think it was a memorial service.




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Old 04-05-2013, 08:39 AM   #15
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I have to say, Raj's reaction to "the pups' was priceless!
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So has Raj taken the drunken criminal title from Penny??
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Actually, I think it was a mammorial service.
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Leonard: You realize you might kill some of them.
Penny: Oh, then you all can get tenure.
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"So no matter how lousy you are at your job they won't fire you? Sounds like being a pretty waitress at the Cheesecake Factory."
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I liked the first part with all the guys discussing tenure with their gurlie friends, hated the middle part at the gym ( I fast forwarded through that), loved it when Howard imitated a Mercat. His hand moment was great!

Penny must have had some heavy duty push up technology.

How can AFF look so yucky on this show but really be such a cutie in real life? I guess the cloths really do make the woman.
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Penny might not have been committing a felony this episode, but she made me want to commit one!
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Penny might not have been committing a felony this episode, but she made me want to commit one!
Well, Leonard was impersonating a scholar trying to get tenure, which must be a felony. So Penny is obviously guilty of accessory to somebody impersonating a scholar trying to get tenure.
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No doubt, Penny had liquor in her purse and was going to force it on to the Tenure Committee.
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How can AFF look so yucky on this show but really be such a cutie in real life? I guess the cloths really do make the woman.
That's certainly a matter of interpretation.

How'd Kripke evolve into a character that is so personable and conniving. Early on he was as inept at social interaction as the rest of the guys.
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That's certainly a matter of interpretation.

How'd Kripke evolve into a character that is so personable and conniving. Early on he was as inept at social interaction as the rest of the guys.
Because he's so wovable.
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Sheldon "Did she do it yet?"
This made me laugh out loud.
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