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Old 10-01-2013, 11:09 AM   #1
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The Blacklist Sept 30, 2013

Great choice of the Nina Simone song "Sinnerman" for the restaurant escape scene. That was used in The Thomas Crown Affair(1999) for one of the "caper" scenes with lots going on, so for me it immediately invoked the feeling that something tricky was going on.

Having Isabella Rossellini as the bad guy was a great choice. I wonder though of Red's immunity agreement was for future crimes as well as past ones. He admitted to hiring an assassin to poison someone. While she turned out to be bad, there doesn't seem to be any repercussions for him.
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:43 AM   #2
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For a character with no phone, mail nor address, Red is certainly connected and seemingly "in touch" with people (like the Serb who disarmed the chemical bomb and took it as payment).

I am enjoying this show.
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Old 10-01-2013, 02:49 PM   #3
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They have some really GOOD actors playing small parts on this show.

The music -- oh yes -- nice selections. What was the song playing at the end when she took the box out of the floor before replacing the carpet?

I'm enjoying the show and it is like Scandal for me in that I can't multitask while watching it but for different reasons. Scandal has dialog which can't be missed and The Blacklist has action.
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:19 PM   #4
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The music -- oh yes -- nice selections. What was the song playing at the end when she took the box out of the floor before replacing the carpet?
Took the box out?

Near the end she put the box back under the floor and then had new carpet installed. Presumably taking the third option that Red hinted at -- do nothing and wait to see if her husband retrieves the box.

Although depending on how she is monitoring it (little piece of something stuck between the trap door and floorboards? hidden camera?), I guess just removing the box and hiding it might work also. She would at least know if he tried to get the box, and whether he comes to ask her about it would be informative. But I think putting the box back and waiting to see what he does with it would be the most potentially informative thing to do.

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Old 10-01-2013, 11:55 PM   #5
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Show lost me tonight, wanted to like it so much but the stupidity of Montreal made me delete it.


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Old 10-02-2013, 08:04 AM   #6
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Another great epsiode. We're hooked.

Looks like there is only one more episode coming up over the next few weeks. Is it due to some sports crap or something?
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:15 AM   #7
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I laughed when Lizzie runs up to a car IN MONTREAL and flashes a badge and says FBI and takes the car.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:27 AM   #8
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This episode did not entertain me as much as the first one.
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:04 AM   #9
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The show is teetering on the edge of ridiculous but hasn't quite fallen over yet. They have set up the cliched seemingly omniscient bad guy in a way that we can still believe it roughly plausible. He has been gone for a long time and could have planned a vast majority of his efforts in advance.

I do wonder why they are willing to let him wander and obtain syringes and the like. I would think they would want a tighter leash.
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:23 AM   #10
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I do wonder why they are willing to let him wander and obtain syringes and the like. I would think they would want a tighter leash.
He isn't in custody now that his deal is in effect. Plus I don't think it would be hard for his security team to get him whatever he wanted.
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Why is he so keen to have a particular chip embedded - will it give him 'special' powers, will it become a device for lazy script writing?
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I laughed when Lizzie runs up to a car IN MONTREAL and flashes a badge and says FBI and takes the car.
That was one big glaring gaffe.
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Old 10-02-2013, 12:46 PM   #13
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He isn't in custody now that his deal is in effect. Plus I don't think it would be hard for his security team to get him whatever he wanted.
But they still should have a tighter leash than what they currently have. From being "trapped" on the boat/ship to running around like a five year old hopped up on sugar, it's borderline ridiculous. Great concept for the show but the presentation is severely lacking or believable.
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Old 10-02-2013, 12:51 PM   #14
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They have some really GOOD actors playing small parts on this show.

The music -- oh yes -- nice selections. What was the song playing at the end when she took the box out of the floor before replacing the carpet?

I'm enjoying the show and it is like Scandal for me in that I can't multitask while watching it but for different reasons. Scandal has dialog which can't be missed and The Blacklist has action.

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That was one big glaring gaffe.
Perhaps she thought he was delusional and thought the safest thing to do was to give him the car.
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Is it just me, or is it obvious to everyone else that they are telegraphing the notion that Red will turn out to be Lizzie's dad?
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Is it just me, or is it obvious to everyone else that they are telegraphing the notion that Red will turn out to be Lizzie's dad?
If he is a blood relative I will be disappointed that DNA tests have not already revealed it.

I am enjoying the show because it has one of my favorite themes - people are not who they appear to be.
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Old 10-02-2013, 03:19 PM   #18
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Is it just me, or is it obvious to everyone else that they are telegraphing the notion that Red will turn out to be Lizzie's dad?
It seems so obvious that I wonder if it will not turn out to be the case. Also, maybe he could be her uncle. But I certainly hope neither of those turns out to be the case, because it should have been easily verified first thing by a DNA test (as soon as he started hinting about family connections, which he did in the pilot).

Maybe he will turn out to be a friend of the family. That would be better than something that could have been tested genetically.
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Old 10-02-2013, 03:36 PM   #19
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I agree, it's so blatant that I'm hoping it's not true. I'm hopeful that the writers are attempting a head fake and are overplaying their hand rather than giving us the equivalent of a laugh track so we know what's funny.
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Old 10-02-2013, 04:46 PM   #20
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:30 PM   #21
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I laughed when Lizzie runs up to a car IN MONTREAL and flashes a badge and says FBI and takes the car.
I'm pretty sure they had left Montreal by then. Just the meeting at the restaurant took place there, the fundraiser was in New York.
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Took the box out?

Near the end she put the box back under the floor and then had new carpet installed. Presumably taking the third option that Red hinted at -- do nothing and wait to see if her husband retrieves the box.

Although depending on how she is monitoring it (little piece of something stuck between the trap door and floorboards? hidden camera?), I guess just removing the box and hiding it might work also. She would at least know if he tried to get the box, and whether he comes to ask her about it would be informative. But I think putting the box back and waiting to see what he does with it would be the most potentially informative thing to do.
Ok this part I did like. Don't worry about the box, let the fiance bring it up if he ever does.
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I am really enjoying this show. But yes, yelling "FBI" in Montreal and also giving a $100 tip to the waiter in US dollars was another good one. Why didn't they just go to Chicago or something?
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:42 PM   #24
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It's kinda ridiculous, but I enjoy it. I like the dynamic between the characters. I like spader's acting (so not what I'm used to from him)


I'm waiting to see if red escaping custody is intended to happen as often as South Park killing Kenny. I wonder if they'll have him on a tighter leash in Episode 3.

The most absurd part of it is that he seems to know about attacks down to the minute, while seemingly being out of contact and allegedly not using email, phone, or other communication methods. I would think a master criminal's information would quickly become stale.
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I laughed when Lizzie runs up to a car IN MONTREAL and flashes a badge and says FBI and takes the car.
but come on we all know Canadians are so nice they would give you the car no matter what.
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If he is a blood relative I will be disappointed that DNA tests have not already revealed it.

I am enjoying the show because it has one of my favorite themes - people are not who they appear to be.
There is no way he is the dad because they would have ran DNA first thing. I think in someway he knows her dad or her mom and owes them a favor. Not really sure but I kind of keep thinking of the James, Lily, Snape triangle.
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What does "run DNA" mean here? You think they would have put his DNA into the system and done a cross-comparison against all known DNA entries in order to check for familial similarities? That makes no sense to me.
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and also giving a $100 tip to the waiter in US dollars was another good one
The last time we were in Canada we could use US money to pay for stuff. I didn't really think anything was weird about giving him free money in US dollars.
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What does "run DNA" mean here? You think they would have put his DNA into the system and done a cross-comparison against all known DNA entries in order to check for familial similarities? That makes no sense to me.
I think when he turned himself in and asked for Lizzie at that point not knowing their connection and knowing she does not her know her father that protocol would dictate that they do DNA test on both of them.
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I'm pretty sure a Canadian waiter would accept a $100 USD tip.

I didn't expect to like this show, but so far I do. Most of that is due to Spader's excellent acting in this role. I wish the female lead didn't look like a beauty pageant contestant, though.
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