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Old 10-08-2013, 08:21 AM   #1
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HIMYM: The Broken Code OAD 10/7/2013

I thought it had a couple of decent things in it. The Marshall via iPad was okay. Clearing the air with Barney about Robin was okay. The references to the Bro Code and Marshall doing the lawyer thing were good.

I wasn't impressed with the whole 'Robin needs to make new friends' story.

However, this is the second week in a row without the Mother. I want to see her and how she interacts with everyone. I want to see how she integrates into the story. This long, drawn out wedding is pointless.

You may now commence responding to my views telling me how they are totally wrong because your opinions differ from mine.
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Old 10-08-2013, 08:24 AM   #2
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I actually agree about the mother.
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Old 10-08-2013, 09:23 AM   #3
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I actually have a copy of the Bro Code book. Got it for Christmas.
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I actually have a copy of the Bro Code book. Got it for Christmas.
http://www.amazon.com/Bro-Code-Barne...words=bro+code
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:30 AM   #5
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I was so tired last night I fell asleep and missed the last ~10 minutes. My wife had the remote and deleted it when it finished. I enjoyed what I saw and remember but need to see the end.
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I actually have a copy of the Bro Code book. Got it for Christmas.
Should have just stole it from a hotel or the seat back in an airplane.
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:42 AM   #7
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One thing that did stick out to me while watching last night is:

Why was the mother on the train where she met Lily? (from three episodes back) Presumably, she was going to the wedding too, but nothing about it was mentioned between Lily and "Mother" while they were on the train and we haven't seen the mother at the hotel (excepting the flash-forward).

If the wedding is still 52 hours away, then why was the mother on the train so early?
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:52 AM   #8
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I am not liking this season at all. Is the entire season going to be the 50+ hours before the wedding?

If so, I may be out.
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:56 AM   #9
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what's Marshall doing that he can;t be on screen with the others?
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:03 AM   #10
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I am not liking this season at all. Is the entire season going to be the 50+ hours before the wedding?

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Yes, this whole season is addressing the time up to the wedding.
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:32 AM   #11
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Another crappy episode IMO. I think I will record them and just come on TCF and quickly see if the mother's in the episode and then watch. Otherwise, I really have stopped caring about the characters, or anything else in this contrived drain-circling mess.

What extra-pisses-me-off is how this is ending compared to Breaking Bad. It's an apples and zebras comparison, but still, it's almost insulting to the audience who have stuck it out this long. No-one I know IRL talks about the show. Maybe they are too embarrassed to admit they still watch.
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:14 PM   #12
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what's Marshall doing that he can;t be on screen with the others?
Marshall, the character, or Jason Segel, the actor?

Marshall is driivng from Minnesota to NY because he got kicked off his flight. Jason Segel is filimg a movie and had some scheduling conflicts.
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what's Marshall doing that he can;t be on screen with the others?
It's possible that, since he was supposedly the last holdout for the final season that this is either a) the way to include him in the filming since he came on board so late in the process or b) part of his agreement for the final season was that he was allowed to limit his on-screen time with the rest of the cast.
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:21 PM   #14
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Marshall, the character, or Jason Segel, the actor?

Marshall is driivng from Minnesota to NY because he got kicked off his flight. Jason Segel is filimg a movie and had some scheduling conflicts.
Segel, thanks for the update, I figured he was shooting a movie.
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One thing that did stick out to me while watching last night is:

Why was the mother on the train where she met Lily? (from three episodes back) Presumably, she was going to the wedding too, but nothing about it was mentioned between Lily and "Mother" while they were on the train and we haven't seen the mother at the hotel (excepting the flash-forward).
The mother is in the band that plays at the wedding: we've known this is how Ted meets her for years now. However I have no idea why someone from the band is heading out to the wedding 2 days early. Maybe she knows someone there and is staying with friends for the weekend.
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The mother is in the band that plays at the wedding: we've known this is how Ted meets her for years now. However I have no idea why someone from the band is heading out to the wedding 2 days early. Maybe she knows someone there and is staying with friends for the weekend.
Or has another gig in town for Friday night?
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Or has another gig in town for Friday night?

she's there because her best friend is getting married and she's the bridesmaid

and its really weird for her because she used to date her friend's fiancÚ

so she's spending time with her friend and they're working out their issues
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Another crappy episode IMO. I think I will record them and just come on TCF and quickly see if the mother's in the episode and then watch. Otherwise, I really have stopped caring about the characters, or anything else in this contrived drain-circling mess.

What extra-pisses-me-off is how this is ending compared to Breaking Bad. It's an apples and zebras comparison, but still, it's almost insulting to the audience who have stuck it out this long. No-one I know IRL talks about the show. Maybe they are too embarrassed to admit they still watch.
Who's comparing the ending to Breaking Bad? I don't know how you can compare the ending of a sitcom with a drama.
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she's there because her best friend is getting married and she's the bridesmaid

and its really weird for her because she used to date her friend's fiancÚ

so she's spending time with her friend and they're working out their issues
Was this mentioned somewhere in the show, or is this speculation?
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Who's comparing the ending to Breaking Bad?
Nobody other than Mr. Soze.

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You can when the comparison is reduced to was it good? or did it insult the audience? which is what Mr. Soze did.
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I really have stopped caring about the characters, or anything else in this contrived drain-circling mess.
Me too and I'm conflicted on how to deal with it.
I don't know if I should watch weekly as it unfolds or wait and marathon it and hope it's less painful to watch that way.
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I too thought last nights episode was horrible. I kept watching the clock to see when it would be over.
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Was this mentioned somewhere in the show, or is this speculation?
It's a joke.
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I assumed Robin's new best girlfriend would be The Mother.
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I think I landed on the reason why we're all so disillusioned with the show. Sitcoms are not supposed to be plot driven. We're supposed to watch, laugh at the jokes, like the characters, and then the slate is mostly wiped clean for the next episode. Think about it. Did you ever go into an episode of Seinfeld with an expectation or a hope of what was going to happen? What about Cheers, or Cosby, or Friends, or any of the greats. No, you just sat down and enjoyed the story the writers told that week, and hopefully laughed at the jokes, but you weren't expecting anything specific to happen. There may be some loose ongoing stories, and characters cah progress, but the point of watching a sitcom is not to find out what happened. It's to laugh at the jokes.

With HIMYM, the early seasons were like a traditional sitcom, because we were just getting to know the characters, and we didn't have any expectation of meeting the mother anytime soon. The weekly episodes were just a way to tell the wacky hijinx of these five friends. But over the last couple of seasons, it's become much less about the characters and much more reliant on the plot. The characters have pretty much done all the funny stuff they can do, so there really isn't much new material to mine. So now as viewers we're all just watching to see what happens. And that's not what sitcoms are designed to do. So when an episode doesn't really advance the story, and the jokes are stale and rare, then we're all left feeling flat.
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I agree except for you including Friends on your list. At the end it was very soap opera-ey too. I have a feeling that's the model they're going for.

Parks and Rec, and the Office, has ongoing story lines as well, but not like HIMYM or Friends.
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I think I landed on the reason why we're all so disillusioned with the show. Sitcoms are not supposed to be plot driven. We're supposed to watch, laugh at the jokes, like the characters, and then the slate is mostly wiped clean for the next episode. Think about it. Did you ever go into an episode of Seinfeld with an expectation or a hope of what was going to happen? What about Cheers, or Cosby, or Friends, or any of the greats. No, you just sat down and enjoyed the story the writers told that week, and hopefully laughed at the jokes, but you weren't expecting anything specific to happen. There may be some loose ongoing stories, and characters cah progress, but the point of watching a sitcom is not to find out what happened. It's to laugh at the jokes.

With HIMYM, the early seasons were like a traditional sitcom, because we were just getting to know the characters, and we didn't have any expectation of meeting the mother anytime soon. The weekly episodes were just a way to tell the wacky hijinx of these five friends. But over the last couple of seasons, it's become much less about the characters and much more reliant on the plot. The characters have pretty much done all the funny stuff they can do, so there really isn't much new material to mine. So now as viewers we're all just watching to see what happens. And that's not what sitcoms are designed to do. So when an episode doesn't really advance the story, and the jokes are stale and rare, then we're all left feeling flat.
I've stated this for years. It is the damned name. If it were called "Wait for It" no one would be clamoring about the mother.

I just enjoy the show. Those fixated on the mother have had issues for years.
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But it's not so much about wanting to meet the mother. It's the fact that the show has put itself into a box where we all know the eventual outcome and we know that's where the plot is heading, so each week when the plot doesn't really advance, it's frustrating. And their plan for this final season of the show, to have the entire season take place over the course of 50ish hours leading up to and including Robin and Barney's wedding, just amps up that expectation that something specific needs to happen.
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But it's not so much about wanting to meet the mother. It's the fact that the show has put itself into a box where we all know the eventual outcome and we know that's where the plot is heading, so each week when the plot doesn't really advance, it's frustrating. And their plan for this final season of the show, to have the entire season take place over the course of 50ish hours leading up to and including Robin and Barney's wedding, just amps up that expectation that something specific needs to happen.
For me, it is this:

The time-shifting nature of the storytelling, and how meta it gets, and the humor around it, has gotten stale. They still land some of it here and there, but it is no longer a reliable device.

Which would be OK, because as shows age they fall back on their characters anyway. Like the characters, like the show.

Except that the show sold out the characters a long time ago for the jokes. The show's humor is no longer character-driven; the show's characters are now humor-driven.

And in the process the characters have all become terrible people (except mostly for Marshall). Every so often we get flashes of who they used to be, like Lilly's heart-to-heart with Ted in last week's episode (which was really nice), but mostly now we get things like Robin screaming at Patrice. These are really unpleasant people.

So there is increasingly less for the show to hang its hat on. Friends, to take another example, went through this, too. The last couple of seasons weren't all that funny, the plots were threadbare (shark porn? really?), and many of the characters had been trashed. Ross became dumber than Joey (did he and Rachel really seem like they belonged together anymore by the end?), Monica became unbearably shrill, etc.

I'm in it at this point to see how it all comes together. And to see more of the Mother with the rest of the crew -- they seem to have done a great job with that casting, and I'm hopeful bringing her character in will humanize everyone (or at least Ted) again somewhat. Referring back to Friends, the ending worked (I thought) because the show was able to dredge up enough residual affection for the characters, and their relationships to each other, to sell the conclusion -- despite the problems leading up to it. Hoping for the same thing here.
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As for this episode, I still want to know what is up with all of the purple. It's everywhere! Why why why?
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