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Old 08-13-2014, 12:19 PM   #1
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Old 08-13-2014, 01:47 PM   #2
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Is this a sale or a new Tivo or an advertisement for an appe(a)rance at a trade show?

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Old 08-13-2014, 04:56 PM   #4
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Looks to me like TiVo is planning a big announcement at Cedia this year. TiVo likes the press they get at Cedia and actually won Best for Cedia award last year for the Roamio line.

Since the Roamio is new, we can't expect a new box - so something else "Big" must be on the horizon. Since the spring release just came out, I wouldn't expect a simple software update - so what would you consider big enough for a "Big" announcement?




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Old 08-13-2014, 05:04 PM   #5
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"SO BIG it's almost inappropriate"

Hmmm, let me guess. A Roamio Pro with a 5TB hard drive? If they charge another $200 for that, it would be "almost inappropriate".
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:23 PM   #6
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I suppose it could be a new box with more tuners / larger hard drive. I am just not sure there is enough of the market for an Ultra Pro model to make it viable.

I guess I wasn't thinking of the "big" in such a literal way.
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Old 08-13-2014, 06:19 PM   #7
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Old 08-13-2014, 06:53 PM   #8
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That actually wouldn't surprise me...
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Old 08-13-2014, 06:55 PM   #9
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Checking out http://custom.tivo.com it appears to be a push for system intigrators/resellers as they are pushing their multi room, single multi-tuner TiVo....

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See why integrators choose to install TiVo in homes—including their own.
My guess it's a bigger move into third party MSO type TiVo integrations.
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Old 08-13-2014, 07:20 PM   #10
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My guess it's a bigger move into third party MSO type TiVo integrations.
Yeah, I saw that when I followed the link - but that would be pretty week for a "BIG" announcement!

Celdia is the Custom Installers trade show - I suppose it could be that... I think the link simply references installers because of the show base, not in relation to the announcement.

A lot of home theater technology companies use Cedia to announce new products. Wishful thinking? Maybe...
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:57 PM   #11
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What do you know, davisadm?

September lines up with the android streaming rumor if they manage to hold their schedule, which they might. Aside from portable android support, Tivo may have a larger "anywhere" strategy in the works. (PC? Roku? Fire TV?) But that might be too much, too soon.

There haven't been too many other rumors floating around. An HDD increase is an obvious guess, but would be easy enough to do without triggering the rumor mills. (til now, of course.)

Basking in Roamio's glow, Tivo's been quiet on the product front for the last year. I kinda like that something's stirring again.

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No content, no need...
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Old 08-13-2014, 09:41 PM   #14
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My guesses / hopes?

- Android Stream
- PC TiVo desktop / streaming client
- Amazon Streaming App (wishful thinking)

It could also be a more flushed out version of the network DVR they demoed earlier this year.

http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/07/t...dvr-prototype/



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Old 08-13-2014, 10:04 PM   #15
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No content, no need...
Netflix has some 4K content.
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Netflix has some 4K content.
Netflix's 4K streams are only viewable on 2014 4K TVs that include a built-in H.265/HEVC decoder.

So let me change my response to: Very little content with a very small audience and very little improvement. 4K is the new 3D

I am thinking this announcement will NOT include:

- A change to the base TiVo software, as we just received a major update.
- New hardware, Roamio is still too new for an update


It could also be a BIG nothing - as ebodog insinuated, it could simply be some profit sharing scheme for installers... I am going out on a limb thinking it is something more.
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Old 08-13-2014, 11:15 PM   #17
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My guesses / hopes?

- Android Stream
- PC TiVo desktop / streaming client
- Amazon Streaming App (wishful thinking)

It could also be a more flushed out version of the network DVR they demoed earlier this year.

http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/07/t...dvr-prototype/


More like Tivo no where, but your home. The copy protection has gotten ridiculous. Stream is useless because everything is flagged.
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Old 08-13-2014, 11:24 PM   #18
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Talk to your cable company - FIOS restricts nothing...

I do think TiVo should look at options to work around the content flag... Maybe with a checkout scenerio?
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Netflix's 4K streams are only viewable on 2014 4K TVs that include a built-in H.265/HEVC decoder.

So let me change my response to: Very little content with a very small audience and very little improvement. 4K is the new 3D
What is Netflix super HD that I get using my Roamio ??
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Super HD is Netflix's version of 1080p
Ultra HD is Netflix's version of 4K

Netflix's Ultra HD 4K streams are only viewable on 2014 4K TVs that include a built-in H.265/HEVC decoder.

If there was really any content - blue-ray and such, I would consider a 4k projector for my 110" media room screen, but I wouldn't waste my money on anything less than 60" / 70". And since you can't see the difference on a reasonable sized screen, 50" or smaller, it will never hit critical mass. Content will not be available, no content means no device sales, no device sales means another dead product. 3D all over again.

CE manufacturers are trying to recapture the HDTV craze, and they will try to push any product down your throat to find that market - don't be a lemming, pay for what brings value not for what some marketing guy tells you to buy.
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Super HD is Netflix's version of 1080p
Ultra HD is Netflix's version of 4K

Netflix's Ultra HD 4K streams are only viewable on 2014 4K TVs that include a built-in H.265/HEVC decoder.

If there was really any content - blue-ray and such, I would consider a 4k projector for my 110" media room screen, but I wouldn't waste my money on anything less than 60" / 70". And since you can't see the difference on a reasonable sized screen, 50" or smaller, it will never hit critical mass. Content will not be available, no content means no device sales, no device sales means another dead product. 3D all over again.

CE manufacturers are trying to recapture the HDTV craze, and they will try to push any product down your throat to find that market - don't be a lemming, pay for what brings value not for what some marketing guy tells you to buy.
You make some good points, but I wouldn't say "never" for 4K. The problem with 3D is that it can't really be added retroactively. Some equipment can do a crappy simulation of it, but real 3D must be captured when the content is first created. The perfect vehicle for 3D is computer-generated video like Avatar or new animated features. There will never be (good) 3D versions of Chinatown, Citizen Kane, The Godfather, etc, because it's impossible to add the second viewpoint necessary for stereoscopic viewing. OTOH, good film stock probably can be used to create 4K versions of great movies from the past, once 4K TVs and some kind of ultra Blu-ray are available.
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My guesses / hopes? - Android Stream - PC TiVo desktop / streaming client - Amazon Streaming App (wishful thinking) It could also be a more flushed out version of the network DVR they demoed earlier this year. http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/07/t...dvr-prototype/
I'm pretty sure it's going to be something like this, Roku clients, etc.
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If I understood the use case, the Cloud DVR was really focused at smaller cable companies - not retail.

You could very well be correct, but I am hoping for something we have been waiting for. I know a huge number of people on this board have been waiting on Android Stream - and I am pretty sure that will hit this fall. But I am really hopeful for a new PC TiVo Deskstop / streaming client.
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Are the images in this thread missing for everyone else? in the first couple of messages, that is..
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Looks like they were pulled down... Very interesting - almost like a conspiracy!

I wonder what to read into it...
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Looks like they were pulled down... Very interesting - almost like a conspiracy!

I wonder what to read into it...
I have no idea what happened to the images. They have been uploaded again.
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Super HD is Netflix's version of 1080p
Ultra HD is Netflix's version of 4K

Netflix's Ultra HD 4K streams are only viewable on 2014 4K TVs that include a built-in H.265/HEVC decoder.

If there was really any content - blue-ray and such, I would consider a 4k projector for my 110" media room screen, but I wouldn't waste my money on anything less than 60" / 70". And since you can't see the difference on a reasonable sized screen, 50" or smaller, it will never hit critical mass. Content will not be available, no content means no device sales, no device sales means another dead product. 3D all over again.

CE manufacturers are trying to recapture the HDTV craze, and they will try to push any product down your throat to find that market - don't be a lemming, pay for what brings value not for what some marketing guy tells you to buy.
Ultra HD or UHD is officially what the format is called. It is not the Netflix version. It is the consumer format of so called 4K. UHD is actually below 4K resolution.

Whatever TiVo does announce, it will probably be two to three years until it's available. UNless it is something simple like a larger hard drive. If they had a 5TB Roamio I just might need to sell my current Roamio Pro and get it.
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Possibly - depends what it is...

A tertiary product like Amazon Prime, Android Stream or PC Stream could be delivered immediately (if ready)

A product change that involves the TiVo itself - I agree with you completely.
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