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Old 03-01-2014, 10:07 PM   #91
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Awesome Episode! Who was that woman that that attacked Harrison lol lol? Is that who he is afraid of?
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Old 03-01-2014, 10:11 PM   #92
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Awesome Episode! Who was that woman that that attacked Harrison lol lol? Is that who he is afraid of?
Yep, that's her. Should be interesting to get the full story on them.

Wow, Quinn has really gone over to the dark side. Sure hope Olivia can reel her back in.
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Old 03-06-2014, 11:21 AM   #93
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Yep, that's her. Should be interesting to get the full story on them.

Wow, Quinn has really gone over to the dark side. Sure hope Olivia can reel her back in.
I hope so, too. I miss the cute little sister vibe she had going with the rest of them, especially Huck.
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Old 03-07-2014, 01:51 AM   #94
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Dang. They know how to keep audiences guessing.

I'm gonna say it -- I was fanning myself when Jake took off his shirt in tonight's episode. I didn't expect that reaction.
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The writers seem to think that the only problem with Nichols as the VP candidate is that the voters might have a problem with them being from same state. Hey clueless, the CONSTITUTION has a problem with that.
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Old 03-08-2014, 02:49 PM   #96
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The writers seem to think that the only problem with Nichols as the VP candidate is that the voters might have a problem with them being from same state. Hey clueless, the CONSTITUTION has a problem with that.
It's easily circumvented. Cheney was really from Texas too.
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Old 03-09-2014, 12:35 AM   #97
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It's easily circumvented. Cheney was really from Texas too.
While he lived in Texas from 1995-2000, he was born in Nebraska, graduated from the University of Wyoming and represented Wyoming in the U.S. House. While it may have been a legal fiction, it was at least reasonable for him to re-establish residence in Wyoming. You really think that will work for either the current or previous Governor of the same state?

However, the main point is that the writer(s) only mention of it was /as a political problem rather than a legal one.

I'm already being asked to accept so many ridiculous things with this series. Can't they at least have some minor connection to the real world?
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Old 03-14-2014, 01:17 PM   #98
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So, who's dead? I doubt Josh Malina's character is...
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So, who's dead? I doubt Josh Malina's character is...
Who were the two ladies that got shot?

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Who were the two ladies that got shot?

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I think the blonde was the reporter that Publius was feeding info to.
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Old 03-14-2014, 04:07 PM   #101
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I think the blonde was the reporter that Publius was feeding info to.
Yes, that's what I thought too. But who was the second lady?

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Old 03-14-2014, 04:25 PM   #102
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I really hope it's James.
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Old 03-14-2014, 04:41 PM   #103
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Yes, that's what I thought too. But who was the second lady?

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I think she was a NSA analyst that recorded the phone conversation.


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Old 03-14-2014, 05:35 PM   #104
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I really hope it's James.
Yes, I agree. He's a rather obnoxious character!!

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I think she was a NSA analyst that recorded the phone conversation.
Weren't the two nerdy guys the ones recording the phone calls. EDIT!!! I'm confusing this show with another where phone calls are being intercepted. (I won't mention the other show as that could be considered a spoiler for that show!)

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Maybe it was done to be deliberately misleading, but I cannot understand Olivia's fervor in bringing the killer to justice if James was the one shot.

One thing not yet mentioned: The first two shots came from a muffled weapon. Jake used an un-muffled one. So maybe he shot the initial shooter - possibly Quinn?
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:14 PM   #106
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One thing not yet mentioned: The first two shots came from a muffled weapon. Jake used an un-muffled one. So maybe he shot the initial shooter - possibly Quinn?
We actually do see him firing the silenced pistol (it's a very quick cut where we see it; the promo for next week shows it more clearly). After he puts down the NSA girl, he pockets the gun and pulls out the second, unsilenced pistol that he fires, ostensibly at one of the two guys.

My theory, he shoots one of the guys with the second gun, then plants the first gun on the dead guy, then gives the second gun to the still-alive guy and instructs him to tell the cops that he and the girls were ambushed by the dead guy, and that he killed him in self-defense.
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I think between James and David, it would make more sense to kill David because James is easily silenced -- no need to kill him.
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Maybe it was done to be deliberately misleading, but I cannot understand Olivia's fervor in bringing the killer to justice if James was the one shot.



One thing not yet mentioned: The first two shots came from a muffled weapon. Jake used an un-muffled one. So maybe he shot the initial shooter - possibly Quinn?

That is an intriguing possibility but wouldn't Olivia know who did the killing if both James and David lived?
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We actually do see him firing the silenced pistol (it's a very quick cut where we see it; the promo for next week shows it more clearly). After he puts down the NSA girl, he pockets the gun and pulls out the second, unsilenced pistol that he fires, ostensibly at one of the two guys.

My theory, he shoots one of the guys with the second gun, then plants the first gun on the dead guy, then gives the second gun to the still-alive guy and instructs him to tell the cops that he and the girls were ambushed by the dead guy, and that he killed him in self-defense.
Yeah, I missed that. So much for my theory.

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I think between James and David, it would make more sense to kill David because James is easily silenced -- no need to kill him.
Also James is now more or less reconciled with Cyrus, so would be more willing to protect him. I never really thought of him as a "good" guy anyway. Then again, I'm not sure there are any in this series. Kind of like "Game of Thrones".

Plus I can't see Olivia getting all that incensed about James being killed.
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Old 03-23-2014, 09:48 AM   #110
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I love Khandi Alexander.
I see Rosen coming on board as a Gladiator by season's end.
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Old 03-23-2014, 09:58 AM   #111
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"Mama Said Knock You Out" - 3/27 **SPOILERS**

OK, I know this is just a TV show but its really starting to get silly!! I'm sure there are many clandestine govt agencies of which the public has no knowledge of. And within those agencies I'm sure there are individuals that have a certain amount of independent authority. But really this B-613 goes too far!!! So here is an agency that seems to have TOTALLY INDEPENDENT authority to do basically ANYTHING THEY WANT to "protect the republic!" Including basically murdering and torturing people. And both Olivia's Daddy and Jake (old and new Command) say the President can do nothing about it!

But that doesn't make sense either as when Olivia's Daddy started doing too many things the Pres didn't like it seemed like the Pres had no difficulty at all in firing Daddy and then appointing Jake as Command. Now Jake has gone all gung ho and is doing all sorts of nasty things and again tells the Pres that there's nothing the Pres can do. If the Pres fired Daddy so easily can't he do the same with Jake?

Anyway, its still some escapist fun and I'll continue to watch!!

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But that doesn't make sense either as when Olivia's Daddy started doing too many things the Pres didn't like it seemed like the Pres had no difficulty at all in firing Daddy and then appointing Jake as Command. Now Jake has gone all gung ho and is doing all sorts of nasty things and again tells the Pres that there's nothing the Pres can do. If the Pres fired Daddy so easily can't he do the same with Jake?
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing...
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:29 AM   #114
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I just got caught up. So Mommy dearest was hired by Harrison's (lover...stalker...whatever?) to do what? Kill the Prez?

And I guess Olivia didn't succeed in reeling in Quinn. Loved Quinn paying back Huck. It was great in a really creepy way.

Jake sure has gotten right at home as Command. I think Daddy dearest is going to get his job back eventually though.

And good for Mellie getting some! Though I do wish she had told Fitz about the rape. But can't do that, have to protect the Prez, ugh.
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Something really bothers me and I guess it may even happen in real life. Fitz has been sleeping with Olivia for quite a while and Mellie knows all about it and Fitz knows that Mellie knows. Fitz has many times expressed his undying love for Olivia while expressing his absolute dislike of Mellie right to Mellie's face. And then along comes the VP candidate and he sleeps with Mellie. And Fitz has a conniption fit and slugs him in front of a lot of people!! So its ok for Fitz to cheat but not Mellie. That's real fair!!!!

But like I said this probably does happen in real life but I still think it stinks!!

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Something really bothers me and I guess it may even happen in real life. Fitz has been sleeping with Olivia for quite a while and Mellie knows all about it and Fitz knows that Mellie knows. Fitz has many times expressed his undying love for Olivia while expressing his absolute dislike of Mellie right to Mellie's face. And then along comes the VP candidate and he sleeps with Mellie. And Fitz has a conniption fit and slugs him in front of a lot of people!! So its ok for Fitz to cheat but not Mellie. That's real fair!!!!

But like I said this probably does happen in real life but I still think it stinks!!

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Yep, the old double standard. He can do it, but she can't. Plus, he doesn't want her, but he doesn't want anyone else to have her. She's 'his wife'. I think you're feeling exactly the way we (the audience) are supposed feel about it.

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Fitz is angry because Mellie rejected him (after his father raped her) if he can't have her nobody can. I think it's horrible and I can't relate because I have major problems with unfaithful people.
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Something really bothers me and I guess it may even happen in real life. Fitz has been sleeping with Olivia for quite a while and Mellie knows all about it and Fitz knows that Mellie knows. Fitz has many times expressed his undying love for Olivia while expressing his absolute dislike of Mellie right to Mellie's face. And then along comes the VP candidate and he sleeps with Mellie. And Fitz has a conniption fit and slugs him in front of a lot of people!! So its ok for Fitz to cheat but not Mellie. That's real fair!!!!

But like I said this probably does happen in real life but I still think it stinks!!

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Happens all the time in real life. Many people are hypocrites. They have no problem cheating, but when their spouse does they get all pissed off. It never made sense to me.
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I was irritated about both Fitz's outrage and Liv's outrage at Fitz's outrage until I watched the last episodes again. Fitz was so mad because he was betrayed by someone he trusted enough to pick for VP. I don't think he would have reacted the same way with someone else (like the toe-guy Mellie was with before).

Liv is probably mad at Fitz for being such a hypocrite.

I could be wrong.

Momma and Pappa Pope are amazing and I'm enjoying them both. It is a good thing Olivia wants to be a gladiator.
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Yes it's too bad she is pregnant and they had to cut the season short four episodes.
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