TiVo Community
TiVo Community
TiVo Community
Go Back   TiVo Community > TiVo TV Talk > Now Playing - TV Show Talk
TiVo Community
Reply
Forum Jump
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-18-2013, 12:34 PM   #1
MikeAndrews
Registered abuser
 
MikeAndrews's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern Illinois (Dn Nr WI)
Posts: 12,340
Homeland S03E08 "A Red Wheelbarrow" OAD 2013/11/17 ***spoilers***

Plot flaw but nothing like in Season 2: WHY IN THE WORLD WAS CARRIE EVEN THERE?

They have a shortage of field agents?
If she had been even glimpsed at the scene the whole mission would have been blown.
How many times are we going to see Carrie stomp off and leave the van while she's being told to stay put?
How about putting someone else with her in the van to hold her back?

Now we're supposed to buy that Carrie blew it all for her baby daddy. B.S. She would have dumped the baby.

Speculation: Fara's dad calls Iran and blows her cover.

I don't suppose they ever sweep the home of the acting DIRECTOR OF THE CIA to look for transmitters.

So Saul knows that Brody got out on Carrie's underground railroad?
__________________
1) Series 4 Premiere - Lifetime
2) Series 3 OLED - Lifetime.
2) Series 2 DT 500GB
Mac Mini NAS with 9 7 x 2TB drives.
UVerse and OTA

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by MikeAndrews : 11-18-2013 at 01:13 PM.
MikeAndrews is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2013, 12:53 PM   #2
Hank
AC•FTW
 
Hank's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 18,142
Agreed. Carrie should have been restrained or in the big van. She knows better than to jeopardize an entire massive intel operation to infiltrate Iran just for the Brody's love child. She be crazy. I was glad Quinn shot her. She needed to be taught a lesson. Finally. Perhaps she'll loose the baby at the hospital (we can only hope). What was she going to do anyway? Just "pop-in" on the guy, and then what?

Also, we should have picked up that Saul's wife's lover was a mole. That was just staring us in plain sight. I feel stupid for not seeing that in advance.

Yeah, bad things are headed Fara's way.
Hank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2013, 01:23 PM   #3
tivoboyjr
Unregistered User
 
tivoboyjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 5,364
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank View Post
Also, we should have picked up that Saul's wife's lover was a mole. That was just staring us in plain sight. I feel stupid for not seeing that in advance.
We should have seen it coming, only because this show has gotten so ridiculous.
tivoboyjr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2013, 02:58 PM   #4
Gunnyman
Super FunBall
 
Gunnyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Greenville SC
Posts: 29,824
Did Saul arrange for Brody to be kept and hooked on heroin? Or did his captors just take a big pay day to give him up?
__________________
It's a sociological cornucopia of silliness.
Gamertag: GGwallen
Gunnyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2013, 03:43 PM   #5
MikeAndrews
Registered abuser
 
MikeAndrews's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern Illinois (Dn Nr WI)
Posts: 12,340
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunnyman View Post
Did Saul arrange for Brody to be kept and hooked on heroin? Or did his captors just take a big pay day to give him up?
I think that it was Carrie underground railroad.

The heroin was just "the next place" for Brody to go. Brody figured he might as well stay high to pass the time.
Spoiler:
Damian says as much.


I think that they got word to Saul to claim the reward.
__________________
1) Series 4 Premiere - Lifetime
2) Series 3 OLED - Lifetime.
2) Series 2 DT 500GB
Mac Mini NAS with 9 7 x 2TB drives.
UVerse and OTA

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
MikeAndrews is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2013, 06:49 PM   #6
aindik
Registered User
 
aindik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 28,492
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank View Post
Saul's wife's mole was just staring at us
Yeah I thought so too.





aindik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2013, 11:42 PM   #7
MacThor
Not Pictured
 
MacThor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Richmond VA
Posts: 4,069
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank View Post
Also, we should have picked up that Saul's wife's lover was a mole. That was just staring us in plain sight. I feel stupid for not seeing that in advance.
You shouldn't feel stupid - this show is supposed to be better than 24 mole-of-the week.

I actually rolled my eyes three times - when the jilted lover was planting the device in Saul's house, when Carrie got out of the van (AGAIN), and when the oh-so-careful lawyers were talking on cell phones.
MacThor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2013, 11:52 PM   #8
MikeAndrews
Registered abuser
 
MikeAndrews's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern Illinois (Dn Nr WI)
Posts: 12,340
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacThor View Post
You shouldn't feel stupid - this show is supposed to be better than 24 mole-of-the week.

I actually rolled my eyes three times - when the jilted lover was planting the device in Saul's house, when Carrie got out of the van (AGAIN), and when the oh-so-careful lawyers were talking on cell phones.
The intruder followed the same path as any TV show cliche: she goes into the kitchen and busies herself at the counter. You hug the wall and go out the front door. Even the home layout was trite.

Once again, good thing that house of the director of the CIA doesn't have an alarm system. Those can beep when a door is opened.
__________________
1) Series 4 Premiere - Lifetime
2) Series 3 OLED - Lifetime.
2) Series 2 DT 500GB
Mac Mini NAS with 9 7 x 2TB drives.
UVerse and OTA

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
MikeAndrews is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 09:11 AM   #9
snowjay
40mph couch potato
 
snowjay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Almost in CT, NY
Posts: 15,346
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeAndrews View Post
T
Once again, good thing that house of the director of the CIA doesn't have an alarm system. Those can beep when a door is opened.
ACTING Director.
snowjay is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 09:45 AM   #10
brebeans
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 507
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank View Post
. ...just for the Brody's love child. She be crazy.

How can this be Brody's baby? Isn't this nearly a year out, at this point? She'd hardly be having morning sickness....

Perhaps this has been discussed elsewhere, in this thread. Sorry, if I'm raising it again, but I just don't understand how this can be Brody's kid.

Can someone explain? Thanks.
brebeans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 09:51 AM   #11
Rob Helmerichs
I am Groot!
 
Rob Helmerichs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 31,844
Quote:
Originally Posted by snowjay View Post
ACTING Director.
He doesn't get the security system until he's passed the confirmation hearing.
__________________
“You know, this badge means something.”
“You made it at Kinko's.”
Rob Helmerichs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 10:10 AM   #12
aindik
Registered User
 
aindik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 28,492
Quote:
Originally Posted by brebeans View Post
How can this be Brody's baby? Isn't this nearly a year out, at this point? She'd hardly be having morning sickness....

Perhaps this has been discussed elsewhere, in this thread. Sorry, if I'm raising it again, but I just don't understand how this can be Brody's kid.

Can someone explain? Thanks.
Episode 1 of the season was 2 months after the bombing. So, it's 2 months plus however long this season has been, plus however many days it was before the bombing.
aindik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 10:31 AM   #13
brebeans
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 507
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by aindik View Post
Episode 1 of the season was 2 months after the bombing. So, it's 2 months plus however long this season has been, plus however many days it was before the bombing.
Hi:
OK...thanks. I don't think that's very clear and seems like a lot of time has gone by...but, hey, it's TV!
brebeans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 11:00 AM   #14
tiassa
Me --Avatar
 
tiassa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,376
It is possible that Carrie and Brody "did it" while they were making the trip to Vermont (or wherever the US terminal of the "Carrie Underground Railroad" was), but it is still a stretch.

Is it possible that Saul's wife's lover is not a mole, but just a jealous spurned lover? Then when they find the bug people will be looking in the wrong place.

Carrie got out of the van AGAIN!?! They need to handcuff her when she is on stakeout.

If Carrie has hat baby then Homeland will officially "jump the shark" (that she is 13 weeks pregnant given all she has gone through and who she is, has her lining up the water skis, but the boat hasn't started pulling yet).

2 weeks with no Brody Family drama, can we hope for more?
tiassa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 11:05 AM   #15
aindik
Registered User
 
aindik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 28,492
Btw, nothing on the "mole" thing?


aindik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 11:15 AM   #16
MikeAndrews
Registered abuser
 
MikeAndrews's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern Illinois (Dn Nr WI)
Posts: 12,340
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiassa View Post
...If Carrie has hat baby then Homeland will officially "jump the shark" (that she is 13 weeks pregnant given all she has gone through and who she is, has her lining up the water skis, but the boat hasn't started pulling yet).

2 weeks with no Brody Family drama, can we hope for more?
And she was hospitalized and heavily drugged but I guess the rabbit test isn't covered on her insurance.
__________________
1) Series 4 Premiere - Lifetime
2) Series 3 OLED - Lifetime.
2) Series 2 DT 500GB
Mac Mini NAS with 9 7 x 2TB drives.
UVerse and OTA

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
MikeAndrews is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 11:46 AM   #17
Hank
AC•FTW
 
Hank's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 18,142
Quote:
Originally Posted by brebeans View Post
How can this be Brody's baby? Isn't this nearly a year out, at this point? She'd hardly be having morning sickness....

Perhaps this has been discussed elsewhere, in this thread. Sorry, if I'm raising it again, but I just don't understand how this can be Brody's kid.

Can someone explain? Thanks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by aindik View Post
Episode 1 of the season was 2 months after the bombing. So, it's 2 months plus however long this season has been, plus however many days it was before the bombing.
Not only that, but the baby doctor told her to have less stress at work, and Carrie said something along the lines of "work has a lot to do with the baby's father" (implying it's Brody's).
Hank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 01:01 PM   #18
KenDC
Huggy Bear
 
KenDC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 14,739
Didn't Carrie also sleep with another guy...couldn't she have slept with others? I see an episode of Maury within Homeland.
__________________
Sweat every day.
KenDC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 01:19 PM   #19
VegasVic
Craps Player
 
VegasVic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Craps Table
Posts: 3,138
While I like season 3 better than season 2 (it wouldn't take much to be better than season 2), the baby storyline after we finally got rid of the Dana storyline(for now anyway) is awful.
__________________
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'. - Bob Newhart.
VegasVic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 01:21 PM   #20
Hank
AC•FTW
 
Hank's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 18,142
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenDC View Post
Didn't Carrie also sleep with another guy...couldn't she have slept with others? I see an episode of Maury within Homeland.
yeah, some dude from the bar (twice!), but that was right before the Javadi baiting thing.. not 13 weeks ago (13 weeks is 3 months+1week!).
Hank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 01:25 PM   #21
MikeAndrews
Registered abuser
 
MikeAndrews's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern Illinois (Dn Nr WI)
Posts: 12,340
Carrie couldn't afford preventive measures on her salary, either. Trojans!

(Iknow. We've already seen that she was reckless and slutty in her off hours.)
__________________
1) Series 4 Premiere - Lifetime
2) Series 3 OLED - Lifetime.
2) Series 2 DT 500GB
Mac Mini NAS with 9 7 x 2TB drives.
UVerse and OTA

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
MikeAndrews is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 01:47 PM   #22
KenDC
Huggy Bear
 
KenDC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 14,739
Quote:
Originally Posted by VegasVic View Post
While I like season 3 better than season 2 (it wouldn't take much to be better than season 2), the baby storyline after we finally got rid of the Dana storyline(for now anyway) is awful.
I agree with every word of this.
__________________
Sweat every day.
KenDC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 02:29 PM   #23
zalusky
Registered User
 
zalusky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Cupertino, CA
Posts: 3,941
Quote:
Originally Posted by VegasVic View Post
While I like season 3 better than season 2 (it wouldn't take much to be better than season 2), the baby storyline after we finally got rid of the Dana storyline(for now anyway) is awful.
Assuming it comes to fruition. Given all the crap she has put in her bodies besides bullets. I fully we will have an opportune miscarriage or at a minimum she might give it away to the Brodies. That would Carrie some more moments for good cries.
__________________
I will never forget the face of my wife as I left to go the operating room to donate my kidney and give her back her life.
zalusky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 02:43 PM   #24
MacThor
Not Pictured
 
MacThor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Richmond VA
Posts: 4,069
If the writers really wanted a pregnancy storyline, why not just use the actress who was actually pregnant during filming, instead of trying to mask her pregnancy?
MacThor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 03:05 PM   #25
VegasVic
Craps Player
 
VegasVic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Craps Table
Posts: 3,138
I understand the Dana storyline to a point, showing how Brody's family was affected but it went on way too long. The baby thing on the other hand is storyline they absolutely don't need. I didn't like Saul's storyline with his wife either although now there's a twist to it I guess.
__________________
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'. - Bob Newhart.
VegasVic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 04:38 PM   #26
jehma
Registered User
 
jehma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: NJ
Posts: 5,035
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacThor View Post
If the writers really wanted a pregnancy storyline, why not just use the actress who was actually pregnant during filming, instead of trying to mask her pregnancy?
Who is that?
jehma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 04:48 PM   #27
aindik
Registered User
 
aindik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 28,492
Quote:
Originally Posted by jehma View Post
Who is that?
Morena Baccarin, who plays Mrs. Brody. She was pregnant when they shot this season. (She no longer is, congratulations to her).

But that would be a completely different storyline.
aindik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 04:50 PM   #28
TAsunder
Debates Ghee vs Gi
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 14,806
Yeah, I don't think the writers created this storyline mad-lib style where the word pregnancy came up and they just chose a random character.
TAsunder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 05:19 PM   #29
MacThor
Not Pictured
 
MacThor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Richmond VA
Posts: 4,069
It was a joke - I really just wanted to see more Morena, even if it's pregnant Morena.

Can anyone really picture Carrie Matheson as a mom?
MacThor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 05:32 PM   #30
Jeeters
Registered Snoozer
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: PA
Posts: 6,920
Quote:
Originally Posted by aindik View Post
Morena Baccarin, who plays Mrs. Brody. She was pregnant when they shot this season. (She no longer is, congratulations to her).

But that would be a completely different storyline.
Well, that explains her larger, umm, bustline that I thought I had noticed. I feared she had maybe gotten implants; glad to hear that's not true.
Jeeters is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Forum Jump




Thread Tools


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Advertisements

TiVo Community
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBulletin Skins by: Relivo Media

(C) 2013 Magenium Solutions - All Rights Reserved. No information may be posted elsewhere without written permission.
TiVo® is a registered trademark of TiVo Inc. This site is not owned or operated by TiVo Inc.
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:19 PM.
OUR NETWORK: MyOpenRouter | TechLore | SansaCommunity | RoboCommunity | MediaSmart Home | Explore3DTV | Dijit Community | DVR Playground |