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Old 09-30-2013, 02:12 PM   #241
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Weird Coincidence.

I was at the Lions v. Bears game with a buddy yesterday afternoon. We were talking about taking another trip to NYC next summer. Out of the blue he says "remember our trip over Memorial weekend 1984 when we were walking through Greenwich Village and we heard Badfinger playing from one of the hole in the wall clubs?". We talked about how obscure they were and that we should have paid the $5 or $10 cover and so we could say we say we saw them.... I said at least we can say we heard them...

Then about 7 hours later, Breaking Bad ends with the song "Baby Blue" by Badfinger and I get a text from my buddy that just says "Badfinger".

Maybe Breaking Bad final / Blue Meth jarred the memory loose from his brain.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:14 PM   #242
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This is correct.
Although he did keep saying that he wanted the money to go to "his children".
I think he trusted that Flynn would take care of his mother and sister.
Based on what we know about Flynn, I think that was a pretty good bet.
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He could have specified that Flynn should serve as the trustee of Holly's share, then. By giving it all to Flynn, he's subjecting Holly to Flynn's whims, risks, and creditors.
Not to mention that he didn't include any sort of third party special needs planning for Flynn.
Sheesh.
I think Walt's objective was that Flynn's 18th birthday was within the year (9 months?) away, so E+G could set up the trust, and Flynn (and family) could benefit from the money pretty quickly. I don't think Walt trusted them enough to set up a similar trust for Holly which would be 16+ years out before she could access the money, even if they did set it up. Also, the "hit men" wouldn't be likely around in 16 years to see through his threat.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:17 PM   #243
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It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue
~Bob Dylan

You must leave now, take what you need, you think will last
But whatever you wish to keep, you better grab it fast
Yonder stands your orphan with his gun
Crying like a fire in the sun
Look out the saints are comin’ through
And it’s all over now, Baby Blue

The highway is for gamblers, better use your sense
Take what you have gathered from coincidence
The empty-handed painter from your streets
Is drawing crazy patterns on your sheets
This sky, too, is folding under you
And it’s all over now, Baby Blue

All your seasick sailors, they are rowing home
All your reindeer armies, are all going home
The lover who just walked out your door
Has taken all his blankets from the floor
The carpet, too, is moving under you
And it’s all over now, Baby Blue

Leave your stepping stones behind, something calls for you
Forget the dead you’ve left, they will not follow you
The vagabond who’s rapping at your door
Is standing in the clothes that you once wore
Strike another match, go start anew
And it’s all over now, Baby Blue
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:21 PM   #244
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Wonder if Jesse can hook up with the Vacuum cleaner guy and get out that way?
Jesse moves to Alaska as he previously intended. He goes off to buy some wood to start his woodworking career. There, he befriends a logger who just happens to discover his murderous past.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:21 PM   #245
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Has anyone commented yet on the fact that Lydia and Todd sat down face to face at the same table? Are we to assume from this that their relationship had moved beyond just being professional?
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:24 PM   #246
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Has anyone commented yet on the fact that Lydia and Todd sat down face to face at the same table? Are we to assume from this that their relationship had moved beyond just being professional?
Nah.

He couldn't even say the word "blouse" when he was trying to compliment her.

Stone cold killer, but not a clue how to speak to a woman. It was almost funny...
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:25 PM   #247
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I personally thought Walt was just nicked. Didn't seem like much blood, he was walking around just fine, he talked just fine, he didn't appear in pain.
I kinda a agree with you on this point. I see A LOT of "belly shots" on TV when people are shot once in the belly area, and then die pretty quickly, without a lot of blood loss. I'm not a doctor, but I don't think that's so realistic. From what I could tell, he was hit in the lower, right side of his abdomen. Maybe it got his liver or intestine, which I guess could be fatal, but not in a few minutes like Walt (again, not a doctor). Now if it were higher up, where it could hit a lung, heart, or major artery, sure, I'd believe it. But in that case, I doubt he'd be walking around.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:28 PM   #248
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Did Jesse know Walt was going to die? Of cancer or the bullet wound?

I personally thought Walt was just nicked. Didn't seem like much blood, he was walking around just fine, he talked just fine, he didn't appear in pain.

Hell, even I thought he was going to grab a car and drive out. Well, until he died that is.
About 3 episodes ago, before Jesse turned on Walt and worked with Hank, Walt told Jesse the cancer was back.

It was Hollywood writing that our key characters, Walt, Jack and Todd survived the barrage, while all of the other guys bought it.

Why would Walt get hit when Jesse didn't? He didn't get low enough? Neither did the guy in the motorized Lay-Z-Boy.

BTW, at the end you can hear liquid dripping, as in blood. Wow.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:29 PM   #249
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I kinda a agree with you on this point. I see A LOT of "belly shots" on TV when people are shot once in the belly area, and then die pretty quickly, without a lot of blood loss. I'm not a doctor, but I don't think that's so realistic. From what I could tell, he was hit in the lower, right side of his abdomen. Maybe it got his liver or intestine, which I guess could be fatal, but not in a few minutes like Walt (again, not a doctor). Now if it were higher up, where it could hit a lung, heart, or major artery, sure, I'd believe it. But in that case, I doubt he'd be walking around.
It looked to me like he was shot in the chest.

Right in the lung where the cancer had started.

I thought it was kind of poetic, actually.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:29 PM   #250
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So....is Walt dead?
He looked pretty gaunt to me...
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:31 PM   #251
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Why would Walt get hit when Jesse didn't? He didn't get low enough? Neither did the guy in the motorized Lay-Z-Boy.
IMHO, Walt got hit by a ricochet. The guy in the chair could be seen standing up as soon as Walt attacked Jesse and before the gunfire started.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:32 PM   #252
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It looked to me like he was shot in the chest.

Right in the lung where the cancer had started.

I thought it was kind of poetic, actually.
Definitely not the chest.. he opened his jacket and you could see the wound just above his belt line.
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Weird Coincidence.

I was at the Lions v. Bears game with a buddy yesterday afternoon. We were talking about taking another trip to NYC next summer. Out of the blue he says "remember our trip over Memorial weekend 1984 when we were walking through Greenwich Village and we heard Badfinger playing from one of the hole in the wall clubs?". We talked about how obscure they were and that we should have paid the $5 or $10 cover and so we could say we say we saw them.... I said at least we can say we heard them...
Badfinger was introduced as an Apple (records, Beatles) band when they backed up George Harrison in the Concert for Bangladesh. I always assumed that they got picked up because they sounded like The Beatles: The New Generation.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:34 PM   #254
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Definitely not the chest.. he opened his jacket and you could see the wound just above his belt line.
Not just above - I think it was several inches above and the blood pooled out.

Anyone else want to weigh in here? I think it was a chest wound.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:34 PM   #255
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Nah.

He couldn't even say the word "blouse" when he was trying to compliment her.

Stone cold killer, but not a clue how to speak to a woman. It was almost funny...
Lots of us are good at that second piece.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:37 PM   #256
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Definitely not the chest.. he opened his jacket and you could see the wound just above his belt line.
Walt was getting kind of old. Perhaps he had his pants up to his armpits like grandpa.

But yeah, it was not chest. Definitely lower.


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Old 09-30-2013, 02:38 PM   #257
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My main small quibble with this episode? Marie calling Skyler to tell her that Walt is back in town and they are looking everywhere for him. Everywhere, I guess, except his wife's apartment as he is able to wander around outside with no problems while waiting for Flynn to get home from school.
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My main small quibble with this episode? Marie calling Skyler to tell her that Walt is back in town and they are looking everywhere for him. Everywhere, I guess, except his wife's apartment as he is able to wander around outside with no problems while waiting for Flynn to get home from school.
I almost felt like this scene was added just to give Marie a "last scene".

I agree it was unnecessary.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:40 PM   #259
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Not just above - I think it was several inches above and the blood pooled out.

Anyone else want to weigh in here? I think it was a chest wound.
I agree with the others who said it was just above the belt line...definitely not in the chest.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:40 PM   #260
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Are you kidding? Jesse killing Todd might have been the single highlight of the whole episode for me. I was literally screaming at my TV. It was spectacular!...
THIS! I was yelling, too...the only time I yelled during the entire episode.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:43 PM   #261
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He looked pretty gaunt to me...
...and Jane was goth....
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:43 PM   #262
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Gotta always leave open the possibility of another season.

Walt would be a formidable force in a prison. I'd watch.
It was announced multiple times that "Walt died" so that'd be a switch up
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My main small quibble with this episode? Marie calling Skyler to tell her that Walt is back in town and they are looking everywhere for him. Everywhere, I guess, except his wife's apartment as he is able to wander around outside with no problems while waiting for Flynn to get home from school.
And Marie is protected by a guy armed with an automatic weapon outside of her window. She was wearing purple slacks.

Walt waited until the school bus blocked the view of the cops.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:53 PM   #264
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Series finale smashes ratings records

Holy crap....the series finale pulled in over 10 million viewers according to EW.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:55 PM   #265
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... I would have rather seen him living in the end with nothing to show for his turning to a life of crime except splitting his family apart.
THAT would have been an UNsatisfying finale. Glad they had the writing team they had.

I'm confident that this show will become a course in colleges about writing screenplays and great storytelling.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:59 PM   #266
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Are you kidding? Jesse killing Todd might have been the single highlight of the whole episode for me. I was literally screaming at my TV. It was spectacular!
Absolutely. I was yelling too. I think that was the best moment in the whole episode. Well, that and Walt and Jesse at the very end.

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IMHO, Walt got hit by a ricochet. The guy in the chair could be seen standing up as soon as Walt attacked Jesse and before the gunfire started.
I wondered about the guy in the chair, thought he may be getting up after all of the bullets stopped. And I did think Walt had gotten hit by a ricochet also. It was a bit lower than his chest. Maybe a kidney/liver thing.

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I couldn't find an image, but did find this one. How funny was that?

Is that the same actor from Suits - the english guy that tormented Louis?
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Well, I'm glad somebody here knows their Latin!
The proper word, I believe, is "Atin-Lay".
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Apologies if this has been discussed before- did anyone know that Michael Bowen (Uncle Jack) was Tommy in the Valley Girl movie from 1983??

Wow- that is seriously blowing my mind.......


Good article on Bowen here: (with a pic from Valley Girl)

http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/br...150629521.html
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And Marie is protected by a guy armed with an automatic weapon outside of her window. She was wearing purple slacks.

Walt waited until the school bus blocked the view of the cops.
Walt strolling around the apartment complex with the detectives in their car did seem odd (to me). Walt obviously was aware of them (I'm guessing), but didn't seem to show that he was (IMHO).
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I know Walt said that he did it for himself, and on a certain level, I take that at face value. But I can't ignore the pain on his face when looking at his children for the last time. He might have gone out on his own terms and gotten a greater thrill out of life the past two years than he would have by remaining a meek teacher fighting cancer, but he definitely paid a hefty price and I think he recognized as much. I just think it's a little bit dismissive to say that Walt got off scott free given what I stated above regarding his children and the fact that he ultimately died before his time (however much time that may have been). Was his punishment equal to all of the hurt suffered by others as a result of his decisions? No, but given the fact that he was already dying, I'm not sure that he could ever suffer enough to balance out those scales.
At the risk of obnoxiously quoting myself, I think alot of what I said is better expressed in this snippet from Vince Gilligan's interview with Entertainment Weekly:

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