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Old 06-06-2016, 02:46 PM   #1
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"Supergirl" Season 2 discussion (possible spoilers)

I was going to post this in the last Supergirl thread, but thought it might be a good idea to make a separate thread for some discussion involving the upcoming Season 2 on CW.

And, to start it off, the season opening will have Superman.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/t...e-cw/85494708/


Woohoo!

I don't know how to treat this. My gut instinct is that it's OK to not use a spoiler tag. I originally put it in a spoiler tag, but then realized it's not really a plot point. We know Superman exists. We've seen him (in ways). So him being a full character shouldn't really be a spoiler. But I'll go back and tag it if I need to. I just couldn't think of how to have the discussion with every post in tags.

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I very much want it to be Tom Welling despite the several continuity issues. (Doesn't have to be the exact same Earth, as we well know.)

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I very much want it to be Tom Welling despite the several continuity issues. (Doesn't have to be the exact same Earth, as we well know.)
I had heard discussion or rumours that in The Flash, Barry would travel to different universes, and one of them would be the Smallville universe. That could have been pretty sweet!

I don't have high hopes for Welling to play Superman. He managed to avoid it for 10 years, I doubt he'd suddenly embrace it now.

How did Sheldon put it? "We waited 10 years to see a man everyone knows can fly, fly."

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I'll say this though, even though he didn't officially become Superman until that last episode, he was an awesome Superman and better than the one we have now in the movies.

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I had to Google Tom Welling to make sure he was who I thought he was.

What the hell happened to that guy? He's a handsome fella. I'm not into dudes, but if I was, I'd be into Tom Welling.


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If Superman is going to show up in the first two episodes, that Kryptonian space capsule has got to be Krypto. Or Mon-El. Frankly, I prefer Krypto.

And I want Krypto to be a Korgi.

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I had to Google Tom Welling to make sure he was who I thought he was.

What the hell happened to that guy? He's a handsome fella. I'm not into dudes, but if I was, I'd be into Tom Welling.

Wow. He's aged VERY well!

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I read on a Facebook reference that welling is willing to do it. Sometimes an actor just needs distance before they feel ready to go back.

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Maybe they get Brandon Routh to put the suit on again? What is he doing now a days? HA

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Maybe they get Brandon Routh to put the suit on again? What is he doing now a days? HA
Don't know what the "HA" is for, he is pretty busy over at "Legends of Tomorrow"

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Maybe they get Brandon Routh to put the suit on again? What is he doing now a days? HA
That would be awesome when they do the big LoT crossover to have Welling look at Routh and raise an eyebrow.

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Is Welling still acting? I haven't seen anything of him since he took off the cape. And, as I remember, he barely had it on for more than a couple of minutes.

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Welling has three post-Smallville credits on IMDB. The latest was some Nicholas Sparks movie that came out this year.

If the trailers for those movies are any indication, he's not a major character in any of them.

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Three small roles in five years...either he isn't taking acting seriously, or acting isn't taking him seriously!

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On the plus side, he probably doesn't have to act if he doesn't want to. He had a producer credit for years on Smallville and added to the handy little per show acting fee, (assuming he has been careful with it), I imagine that he has a few bucks in the bank.

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That would be awesome when they do the big LoT crossover to have Welling look at Routh and raise an eyebrow.
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Superman will be in the first two episodes.

Kara opened a Kryptonian Spacecraft at the end of last season.

What if the occupant of that spacecraft is Superman? Not the one she already knows, but a different one? We could get a resolution to that cliff hanger AND Superman in the show, without actually altering the "no Superman" theme they've been going with. That would be a bizarre twist, but given the big reality altering themes going on in the comics, wouldn't be that out of place.

Maybe the Superman who "should have" been on the earth where the Flash and Arrow live, but somehow went through a reality wormhole and is just now arriving, as baby Kal-El, on Kara's earth.

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On the plus side, he probably doesn't have to act if he doesn't want to. He had a producer credit for years on Smallville and added to the handy little per show acting fee, (assuming he has been careful with it), I imagine that he has a few bucks in the bank.
Doing a "tom welling net worth" Google search, I found a site saying he's worth $12 million. So, he's not super duper rich, but he's super rich in my book.

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Doing a "tom welling net worth" Google search, I found a site saying he's worth $12 million. So, he's not super duper rich, but he's super rich in my book.
At my age, I could live quite comfortably with a net worth of $12 M. Maybe I couldn't own my own jet. But, I could charter.



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Speaking of rumors, the big one is Lynda Carter as the POTUS.

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I'd love to see it be Tom Welling.

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Don't know what the "HA" is for, he is pretty busy over at "Legends of Tomorrow"
That's exactly what the HA is for...haha like DavidTigerFan it'll be awesome when the Atom eventually meets whoever (Welling) they cast as superman; if the meeting ever happens.

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Superman will be in the first two episodes.

Kara opened a Kryptonian Spacecraft at the end of last season.

What if the occupant of that spacecraft is Superman? Not the one she already knows, but a different one? We could get a resolution to that cliff hanger AND Superman in the show, without actually altering the "no Superman" theme they've been going with. That would be a bizarre twist, but given the big reality altering themes going on in the comics, wouldn't be that out of place.

Maybe the Superman who "should have" been on the earth where the Flash and Arrow live, but somehow went through a reality wormhole and is just now arriving, as baby Kal-El, on Kara's earth.
While that sounds cool, I wonder what the long term "benefit" to the show would be - would it turn into various scenes of Kara babysitting the baby?

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While that sounds cool, I wonder what the long term "benefit" to the show would be - would it turn into various scenes of Kara babysitting the baby?
Kara and Jimmy and Baby makes three...

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While that sounds cool, I wonder what the long term "benefit" to the show would be - would it turn into various scenes of Kara babysitting the baby?
Superman is only announced to be in the first two episodes. In my idea, at the end of that second episode his ship is sent on it's way to the "correct" universe to land on the Kent Farm.

This puts him squarely in Flash/Arrow world, but as a baby, so they have a Superman but they don't have to deal with him for 18 years or so (by which time those shows will have long been cancelled, so it's effectively forever).

It solves the "why isn't there a Superman in the world where the Flash is" question at the same time as solving the "who is in the kryptonian space craft" and "how do we use Superman in Supergirl without taking away from Supergirl" problems all at once. It also gives Kara a moment to live what her life should have been like had she actually arrived on Earth at the right time to take care of baby Kal-El, so it's a good character bit for her.

Now, I don't actually think this is what will happen, but it would be if it were me writing it because of how neatly it solves all of those problems.

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That does sound like a potentially cool way to deal with things... can't wait to see if you're right or not!

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Or, since they're getting over their reluctance to portray Superman, they'll just reveal that there's already a Superman on Flash's and Green Arrow's world. Then, they wouldn't need to have him arrive as a baby.

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Maybe it's a monkey or horse in the ship?

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Or, since they're getting over their reluctance to portray Superman, they'll just reveal that there's already a Superman on Flash's and Green Arrow's world. Then, they wouldn't need to have him arrive as a baby.
Maybe Clark Kent is already there but hasn't come out of the superhero closet yet? Because otherwise I would have thought that Flash would have said, "hey, you're dressed just like Superman!"

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Or, since they're getting over their reluctance to portray Superman, they'll just reveal that there's already a Superman on Flash's and Green Arrow's world. Then, they wouldn't need to have him arrive as a baby.
Yes, but then you have the "they launched 10,000 nuclear missiles and Superman didn't show up to stop even one of them?" complaints. Making him a child on the Kent farm bypasses that.

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On the plus side, he probably doesn't have to act if he doesn't want to. He had a producer credit for years on Smallville and added to the handy little per show acting fee, (assuming he has been careful with it), I imagine that he has a few bucks in the bank.
Not to mention being executive producer on Hellcats - perhaps one of the greatest tv series ever.

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