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Old 09-27-2013, 02:06 PM   #31
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Seriously? As if that's the first joke on Modern Family based on a stereotype?
it's not even the first asian stereo type joke. the Asian doctor being a bad driver comes to mind, as does Lily driving the toy car and crashing into a wall...
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it's not even the first asian stereo type joke. the Asian doctor being a bad driver comes to mind, as does Lily driving the toy car and crashing into a wall...
I do remember the bad driver comment when Lilly crashed her toy car, and I thought at the time that it was a bit over the line. And the show has also drawn fire from the country of Colombia.

But the "I forgot to factor in the Asian" comment was blatant and wasn't even particularly humorous. I found it in poor taste.
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:20 PM   #33
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I do remember the bad driver comment when Lilly crashed her toy car, and I thought at the time that it was a bit over the line. And the show has also drawn fire from the country of Colombia.

But the "I forgot to factor in the Asian" comment was blatant and wasn't even particularly humorous. I found it in poor taste.
i guess then you're not the target audience. i thought it was pretty funny.

most of comedy is based on stereoypes. off the top of my head, just from modern family:

-the 20 year stay at home mom going back to the working world bringing cookies
-the woman trying to be "friends" with coworkers
-the gay man being over dramatic
-the over-dramatic gay man dressing up to teach a history class
-the stupid pretty daughter
-the smart and not popular daughter
-the bachelor rich business owner hitting on an inappropriately young girl
-the stupid father who is incompetent in the home and other things most of the time

just because the Asian joke touched on an ethnic stereotype, THAT's too much? please. and it wasn't even a BAD stereotype, it was a GOOD one - Asians are overachievers. Oh Lordy, heaven forbid they referenced that. But picking on women, dads, and gays? that's not crossing the line by your standards but the Asian joke is? come on now.

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Old 09-27-2013, 03:54 PM   #34
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-the 20 year stay at home mom going back to the working world bringing cookies
"speaking of marketing, we're out of milk "

LOL

Phil unknowingly belittling her career choice

"after a 20 year vacation..."

Phil unknowingly belittling stay at home moms and the work they do

the only thing I found unsettling was the boss hitting on Haley
she still looks like a 14 year old and it's just weird

I have to keep reminding myself she's an adult
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:21 PM   #35
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I won't lie I love lily 2.0 more than pretty much anyone on tv. Between running into the wall to answering the phone "Daddy's Office. YOU sound like a little girl", I can't get enough.
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Old 09-28-2013, 07:54 AM   #36
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I won't lie I love lily 2.0 more than pretty much anyone on tv. Between running into the wall to answering the phone "Daddy's Office. YOU sound like a little girl", I can't get enough.
Really? This was the first time she was remotely funny. I liked the answering the phone line but she's been horrible since they started giving her lines.
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:13 AM   #37
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No one mentions the
"I get shorts?"
"and a whistle too!"
"I always get a whistle when I wear shorts!"

I had to pause it after that.
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No one mentions the
"I get shorts?"
"and a whistle too!"
"I always get a whistle when I wear shorts!"

I had to pause it after that.
It was a great line.

Regina did call it out in post #7.
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:10 PM   #39
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At the beginning of "First Days," Mitchell asks Lilly to get dressed and she responds that she has been dressed and ready for an hour. Mitchell then says "I forgot to factor in the Asian."



Seems more than a bit racist. For such a liberal show, this is pretty stupid.
You can calm down.
I thought it was funny and didn't think it was racist.

(And yes, I am Asian.)
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:18 PM   #40
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At the beginning of "First Days," Mitchell asks Lilly to get dressed and she responds that she has been dressed and ready for an hour. Mitchell then says "I forgot to factor in the Asian."



Seems more than a bit racist. For such a liberal show, this is pretty stupid.
You must have missed an earlier ep when she crashes the toy car and "We always knew she might be a bad driver" was uttered.

or Jay calling her his "little potsticker" in the pilot.

All the gay jokes, the foreigner gags.

It may be liberal, but it is not PC. Which is why I like it so much.
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Old 09-28-2013, 02:10 PM   #41
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Really? This was the first time she was remotely funny. I liked the answering the phone line but she's been horrible since they started giving her lines.
Yes, they could remove her from the show and I wouldn't care.

Great start to the season though.
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Old 09-28-2013, 02:29 PM   #42
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Really? This was the first time she was remotely funny. I liked the answering the phone line but she's been horrible since they started giving her lines.
Oh my gosh no. She is the best one on the show by a mile.
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Old 09-28-2013, 02:45 PM   #43
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it's not even the first asian stereo type joke. the Asian doctor being a bad driver comes to mind, as does Lily driving the toy car and crashing into a wall...
Even as far back as when they first adopted her as a baby: "we've named her Lilly" "won't that be hard for her to pronounce?"
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Old 09-28-2013, 03:28 PM   #44
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It was a great line.

Regina did call it out in post #7.
Thanks, man!

But has anyone mentioned Phil and Gloria at the coffeehouse? Their "miming" was so horrible, and they kept going "bigger" when the director wanted them to be invisible...
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Was the first episode shot last season and held over, I wonder?
Seems unlikely since they were referencing the Supreme Court ruling that occurred on June 26th and the last episode of last season aired May 22nd.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:13 AM   #47
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You can calm down.
I thought it was funny and didn't think it was racist.

(And yes, I am Asian.)
Then, your avatar is a lie?




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Perhaps I am alone around here on this one, but when the "factor in the Asian" line was made right before the opening credits, it struck my wife and I as a blatant racist comment. We looked at each other and both said "wow!" Sure, it is playing off a "good" stereotype, but does that excuse it? What if it was a black child and Mitchell said he forgot to factor in the black?

I'm not condemning the show, nor do I think I need to calm down (but thanks for that suggestion JYoung). Honestly, I was just curious to see if it jumped out at anyone else while watching. I guess not. Carry on.
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Perhaps I am alone around here on this one, but when the "factor in the Asian" line was made right before the opening credits, it struck my wife and I as a blatant racist comment. We looked at each other and both said "wow!" Sure, it is playing off a "good" stereotype, but does that excuse it? What if it was a black child and Mitchell said he forgot to factor in the black? I'm not condemning the show, nor do I think I need to calm down (but thanks for that suggestion JYoung). Honestly, I was just curious to see if it jumped out at anyone else while watching. I guess not. Carry on.
"Factor in the black" would have been just as funny. It's a comedy. Some people are way too sensitive.
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Honestly, I was just curious to see if it jumped out at anyone else while watching. I guess not. Carry on.
If it would have been odd for them to say such things it may have, but those little quips are the norm here.
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Oh my gosh no. She is the best one on the show by a mile.
You must love Full House reruns.
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You wasted a post for that? More people dislike her than think she's the best part of the show.
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Perhaps I am alone around here on this one, but when the "factor in the Asian" line was made right before the opening credits, it struck my wife and I as a blatant racist comment. We looked at each other and both said "wow!" Sure, it is playing off a "good" stereotype, but does that excuse it? What if it was a black child and Mitchell said he forgot to factor in the black?

I'm not condemning the show, nor do I think I need to calm down (but thanks for that suggestion JYoung). Honestly, I was just curious to see if it jumped out at anyone else while watching. I guess not. Carry on.
Technically, I suppose it could be construed that way. Except those sort of comments, in the context of a show happens all the time, not just in this show but others. How many gay jokes have their been ALL over TV? Or Jewish jokes, or Italian and yes, African-American jokes as well. I'm sure uber sensitive folks will see it as racist, but I think most people have the ability to laugh at themselves, no?
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"You got it dude."

Count me in as a Lily fan. I think they use her perfectly in this show. She throws out a quick barb and returns to the background.

I normally hate kids on shows, but that is because they try to put them in the front and make them the starts.
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Technically, I suppose it could be construed that way. Except those sort of comments, in the context of a show happens all the time, not just in this show but others. How many gay jokes have their been ALL over TV? Or Jewish jokes, or Italian and yes, African-American jokes as well. I'm sure uber sensitive folks will see it as racist, but I think most people have the ability to laugh at themselves, no?
It is also not uncommon for Modern Family to make - gay jokes, jokes about Hayley and Luke's not so brightness, Alex's brain, Gloria's Columbian background and other stuff. It is par for the course.
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You wasted a post for that? More people dislike her than think she's the best part of the show.
It was a bit from Full House.

She doesn't bug me, but I think she's far from the best thing in the show.
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It's back. I laughed several times. Phil Dumphey is probably my favorite character on TV right now.
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It's back. I laughed several times. Phil Dumphey is probably my favorite character on TV right now.


In the pilot I didn't like Phil at all, but now he's my favorite. He's so sure of himself even though he's so wrong so often. That's what makes him funny.
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This doesn't exactly answer your question, but it's a good article where one of the gay writers on the show talks about how that episode came to be.
I think it's just 'writers'
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