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Old 09-25-2013, 08:00 AM   #31
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Save the cheerleader, save the world?

So, not being versed in this mythology, are the agents good or bad? Does everyone in the organization have powers that will be revealed as we go along?
SHIELD are the good guys.
I don't believe anyone will have powers. That's the whole point of the series.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:01 AM   #32
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Save the cheerleader, save the world? So, not being versed in this mythology, are the agents good or bad? Does everyone in the organization have powers that will be revealed as we go along?
They are the good guys and, no, not all of SHIELD has powers.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:08 AM   #33
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They might as well have super powers with all the technology they are sporting.

I mean, Iron Man doesn't have super powers either. Just an awesome suit.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:15 AM   #34
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Haven't seen this yet, but S.H.I.E.L.D is not intrinsically a super-hero organization. It's mostly made up from normal humans.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:17 AM   #35
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I find it interesting that although this show was developed and the pilot shot before the whole NSA thing blew up, it very much reflects that reality.

Which means either Joss Whedon can see the future, or the whole NSA thing didn't happen in a vacuum. U decide!
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:17 AM   #36
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Only thing I kept thinking at the end: "Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads."
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I thought it was ok and will probably continue to watch for awhile, but the back to the future scene was crazy. I almost cancelled my recording at that point.
Yeah, I was good until the very end. What, they couldn't come up with something original and had to resort to stealing a scene from BTTF?

Overall, I liked it and will continue to watch, but that ending scene was a little over the top for me.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:30 AM   #37
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I liked it. Hopefully now that the pilot is out of the way where they have to introduce every character the story writing will hold its own.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:34 AM   #38
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The two science nerds on the team reminded me of the Wonder Twins.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:36 AM   #39
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If this were the real Coulson the Collector, he would have kept the car absolutely stock and not tricked it out.

I'm also surprised they let them film at Union Station (that was the Patsaouras Plaza side). It's not an un-busy place.

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I see Union Station on screen fairly often. There was an extended sequence there in the premier episode of season 2 of Ray Donovan.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:36 AM   #40
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And that airplane. Looks like a C-17 with an extra wing and 2 more engines on the back. Could that really fly?
I'm sure aerodynamic reality isn't all that important in comic books.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:46 AM   #41
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I had to stop after the first 15 minutes. Not because I wasn't enjoying it -- I was; it seemed to fill a nice niche that stuff like Smallville and Heroes used to fill for me -- but because my wife wasn't enjoying it. Looking forward to seeing the rest. It has a slight bit of Whedonesque dialogue so far, but not as much as I might hope. That was my complaint about the Avengers, too. It was better than it would have been without Whedon, but not as good as it should have been with Whedon; largely because it unsuccessfully took itself somewhere between seriously and not seriously. Whedon got that right in most other works where he tried it (Buffy, Firefly).
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:46 AM   #42
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Yeah, I was good until the very end. What, they couldn't come up with something original and had to resort to stealing a scene from BTTF?
Technically, you've got that backwards. SHIELD did the flying car (same exact model, I believe!) back in the 60s.
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Julie actually seemed to enjoy it more than I did.

I was a little disappointed in the show overall but I loved seeing Book & Gunn. Hopefully they can rehab Gunn and bring him onto the team.

I just didn't feel it lived up to the hype. Aside from the cool effects & expensive scenery/props it still felt like a low-budget show on the WB.
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I'm in. But then I'm a Whedon fan.
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Old 09-25-2013, 09:46 AM   #45
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I liked it. Hopefully now that the pilot is out of the way where they have to introduce every character the story writing will hold its own.

That is what I am hoping for. High hopes for this but the start was a bit flat.
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Old 09-25-2013, 09:56 AM   #46
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I thought it was ok and will probably continue to watch for awhile, but the back to the future scene was crazy. I almost cancelled my recording at that point.
Regardless of who used flying cars first, that ending was a direct ripoff of BTTF. And if I had been iffy on this show, that would be enough to make me delete the SP right then. Just took me waaaaay out of the moment.

As it was, I enjoyed it. I don't know the comics, have never seen The Avengers, and don't know any of the characters. But it was an entertaining hour, and they did a good job of "pilot exposition". Certainly will continue watching at this point.
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If it wasn't Whedon, I'd be out. Too many one-liners, the Wonder Twins are WAY too annoying and confusing, and the whole kumbayah in the rotunda made me ill.

After they shot the guy and all smiled and nodded at each other, I still didn't know what had happened.
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Old 09-25-2013, 10:23 AM   #48
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If it wasn't Whedon, I'd be out. Too many one-liners, the Wonder Twins are WAY too annoying and confusing, and the whole kumbayah in the rotunda made me ill.

After they shot the guy and all smiled and nodded at each other, I still didn't know what had happened.
I liked the wonder twins, especially Simmons. Hawt.
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And that airplane. Looks like a C-17 with an extra wing and 2 more engines on the back. Could that really fly?
I'm sure aerodynamic reality isn't all that important in comic books.
I don't have any real issues with he exterior, but the interior seemed to have TARDIS syndrome, I just couldn't wrap my head around where all that space came from. It seemed like every time they had a scene in the plane there was a new room just stashed away somewhere.
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Old 09-25-2013, 10:57 AM   #50
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I don't have any real issues with he exterior, but the interior seemed to have TARDIS syndrome, I just couldn't wrap my head around where all that space came from. It seemed like every time they had a scene in the plane there was a new room just stashed away somewhere.
Yeah, I noticed that too.
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I'm Whedon's bitch. In for the duration.
Heh, me too. (Hi, my name is "Eric" and I'm a giggly fanboy of Joss Whedon. Hi Eric....)

Although I must admit I kind of wandered away from Dollhouse (I kind of blame Dushku for that one. It takes a great actor to constantly change into another person. And she just wasn't good enough to do that).

But I digress. I enjoyed the pilot for the most part but I too thought the BTTF car at the end was kind of silly. I think it was just Joss giving us a goofy wink at the camera. I do expect it to improve in later weeks.

My family loved it though. Even the spousal unit.

Another good line .. "It's a very nice bus."
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If this were the real Coulson the Collector, he would have kept the car absolutely stock and not tricked it out.

I'm also surprised they let them film at Union Station (that was the Patsaouras Plaza side). It's not an un-busy place.

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It was from the SHIELD collection, meaning it was modified heavily in the 60's...
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4.6 rating, 14 share. Same ratings as The Voice, but a larger 18-49 share.
Wow. I predicted much lower than that. I am pleasantly surprised.
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I kept thinking that the brunette computer hacker looked like Eliza Dushku, and wondered why Whedon didn't just hire her. Not complaining about the actress in the role, but Whedon often hires past actors/actresses he's worked with.
I was thinking "where's Summer Glau?"
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Maybe 3 Whedon shows is the limit.
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I felt they plan to use the show to "audition" new super-heroes for possible future film roles. This way, they can keep track of public pinion before spending the big bucks.
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