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Old 09-23-2013, 09:41 AM   #91
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I have a feeling whatever happens, it's gonna be a blood bath...
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:42 AM   #92
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One little detail that stood out to me in this episode that didn't go anywhere: When the DEA agents came with Marie back to the house and found it broken into, there was a DVD lying on the ground when they came in.

If that DVD was Hanks copy of Walt's fake confession, they'd know most everything. If they digested that and figured out that Hank was (a) dead and (b) not the ringleader, they'd otherwise be able to piece together most of the rest of it.
It was my impression that the DVD lying on the floor was not THE DVD. It was simply shown to convey that the Aryans had broken in and riffled through a bunch of stuff in an attempt to locate the DVD. Once they show them back at their place watching the DVD, it's obvious that they were successful in their mission.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:42 AM   #93
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We know now that Walt was in the cabin 3-4 months. But Jesse didn't look like he had been cooking that long. His face was still beat up, his hair hadn't grown (I doubt they took him for a haircut) so I'm not sure his storyline was lined up with Walts in last night's ep.
The 3-4 month jump is after Jesse's last scene
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:42 AM   #94
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Then explain the news clippings and the nationwide manhunt for Walter White aka Heisenberg that were all over in this episode..........

I also would like to know how the DEA/FBI/CIA/NSA/NIC/NYPD/Homeland Security/boys in blue etc has enough evidence to put all that in motion. Is it the phone call that was recorded when Walt had Holly that then led them to uncover everything else????
Exactly the question I had. In order to make it work in my mind - I just pretend that Marie told them some stuff and handed over some of Hanks notes. Then Skyler corroborated enough to set the wheels in motion. It's just a sloppy rush job that I'm not used to having happen on this show. One 5 minute scene with a single DEA guy explaining how they connected the dots, would clear it up.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:44 AM   #95
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It was my impression that the DVD lying on the floor was not THE DVD. It was simply shown to convey that the Aryans had broken in and riffled through a bunch of stuff in an attempt to locate the DVD. Once they show them back at their place watching the DVD, it's obvious that they were successful in their mission.
I agree. Hank would have destroyed his copy of the DVD. He certainly wouldn't have left it where anyone could find it.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:47 AM   #96
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When Jesse was trying to escape his face had noticeably recovered so I think some time had passed by then.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:48 AM   #97
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:52 AM   #98
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Walt can't save Jesse, so he offers him the ricin. He throws it in Jesse's cell.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:53 AM   #99
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I thought he told Lydia 92% and Jesse 96%
I was under the impression he was referring to two different batches. Time had passed and the cooks are getting better each time.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:19 AM   #100
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So does this set up Odenkirk's spin off.....Saul is a manager at a Cinnabon in Nebraska while also trying to build a thriving (il)legal practice of helping ciminals?
Better Call Saul will be a prequel.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:31 AM   #101
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Yeah who does he want to poison instead of shooting? Why would it matter? Unless he takes the ricin himself.
Nah. Poetic justice would be for Todd (in a cigarette) or Lydia (in Stevia) to take the ricin.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:35 AM   #102
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I just want Jesse to live! Please give me that!

Thought the best ending the show could have given Jesse was shot away by Todd.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:38 AM   #103
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Walt can't save Jesse, so he offers him the ricin. He throws it in Jesse's cell.
It's one thing to make a leap of faith that Walt figured out that Jesse is alive because of the purity of the blue meth hitting the market; but there is no way for him to know where and how they are keeping him. For all he knows, Jesse is a free man and getting rich as Jack's new cook.

Big thumbs up for Lydia for wanting Skyler dead. She is just as sociopathic as Walt or Todd. Any danger at all to her is met with death. No half measures. She and Todd belong together!

I wonder if Todd will make a move on her. This can't end in anything but rape.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:47 AM   #104
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Nah. Poetic justice would be for Todd (in a cigarette) or Lydia (in Stevia) to take the ricin.
Possibly Todd, I do not see Lydia in any final resolution to the story line. She seemed to be a story plot to help move the story along after the Gus incident. There is not much she can do to threaten Heisenberg, he has lost everything already. I am on Team Heisenberg, I want him to win but have to live with the consequences of his actions.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:48 AM   #105
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Walt knows where Jack's compound is and he knows Jack had the ingredients for the meth. Really not much of a stretch that's he's there. Didn't he also see them decide not to kill him in the desert ? I can't remember. Seems pretty obvious to me where he is.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:55 AM   #106
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Walt knows where Jack's compound is and he knows Jack had the ingredients for the meth. Really not much of a stretch that's he's there. Didn't he also see them decide not to kill him in the desert ? I can't remember. Seems pretty obvious to me where he is.
Nope - he left them in the desert thinking Jesse would end up dead. The only clue that this might not have happened is hearing that the Blue Meth is back.

And I still see NO reason Walt would save Jesse. In his mind Jesse started all of this. I don't know why you think he would help or have mercy on Jesse in any way...
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:08 AM   #107
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Jesse will never be ok.
Even if he lives he'll be the poster boy for PTSD.
Jesse has three options:

1. Die
2. Become a force for good, teaching kids to stay off drugs and that whole route
3. Live an extremely miserable life
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:10 AM   #108
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Greedy criminals. Take the ~$70 million and disappear.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:11 AM   #109
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Maybe he was just trying to encourage Jesse in his weird Todd way. Or maybe they did another cook after he talked to Lydia and got it up even more.

Or maybe Todd was lying to everyone.
Or perhaps the equipment has a 6% margin of error. I mean if he can't really cook, perhaps he can't really test either.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:12 AM   #110
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Nah. Poetic justice would be for Todd (in a cigarette) or Lydia (in Stevia) to take the ricin.
They do make a big deal about Lydia with her Stevia, don't they? I could totally see this.

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Old 09-23-2013, 11:20 AM   #111
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Nope - he left them in the desert thinking Jesse would end up dead. The only clue that this might not have happened is hearing that the Blue Meth is back.

And I still see NO reason Walt would save Jesse. In his mind Jesse started all of this. I don't know why you think he would help or have mercy on Jesse in any way...
Did I say he would save Jesse ? (I genuinely could have because memory is failing me). I do think there's a chance he will due to some events from the final ep but I'm not sure either way.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:21 AM   #112
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Greedy criminals. Take the ~$70 million and disappear.
I like that they directly addressed this too. Jack was no longer interested in cooking meth. "We hit the lottery." A lot of the things we debate on this board, Vince addresses in the very next episode.

I have faith that they will unambiguously wrap up the threads for:
Skylar, Flynn & Holly
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:22 AM   #113
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The 3-4 month jump is after Jesse's last scene
Yeah, the people making this show are smurt. They wouldn't goof up on something that major.

I'm starting to wonder if the ricin never gets used... but it's gotta, right? No way that just fizzles out after what we've seen. So Lydia is the best guess. Unless Jesse somehow gets it and takes it himself or something.
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Who the heck puts milk (soy or otherwise) and sweetener in Chamomile tea? Disgusting. She needs to be murdered for such an affront to taste buds.
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Nope - he left them in the desert thinking Jesse would end up dead.
I don't think that's entirely true.

Didn't Todd ask Uncle Jack to keep Jessie for the cook while everyone was still out in the desert? I thought Walt witnessed that.
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I really hope they don't waste time with Lydia in the finale. Walt has no reason to go after her. He has to deal with Jack/Todd, et al, Jesse and his family. That's plenty for 75 minutes (minus commercials).
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I really hope they don't waste time with Lydia in the finale. Walt has no reason to go after her. He has to deal with Jack/Todd, et al, Jesse and his family. That's plenty for 75 minutes (minus commercials).
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:27 AM   #118
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I'm starting to wonder if the ricin never gets used... but it's gotta, right? No way that just fizzles out after what we've seen.
Chekhov's ricin.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:28 AM   #119
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He'll then offer his life to Jessie and let the chip fall where they may.
No, that's the other show.. Breaking Good, this is Breaking Bad.
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I really hope they don't waste time with Lydia in the finale. Walt has no reason to go after her. He has to deal with Jack/Todd, et al, Jesse and his family. That's plenty for 75 minutes (minus commercials).
She sent Todd and Company to his house to threaten Sklar. She dies.
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