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Old 09-22-2013, 09:18 PM   #1
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So Walter White and Heisenberg are household names.

Gretchen and Elliot went on Charlie Rose and inadvertently caused Walt to come out of hiding!

Robert Forster is SO GOOD at playing that type of character.

I suppose that was Saul's exit.

Is Jesse ok?

And FINALLY, after hearing Vince and co saying for months how incredible Todd is, their hype started to pay off in this episode.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:20 PM   #2
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F yeah Robert Forster!
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:22 PM   #3
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Gretchen and Elliott are so going to get a Ricin-flavored gift-basket.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:22 PM   #4
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Robert Forster was great.

Todd is such a polite criminal. His momma sure taught him manners.
Jesse is fine. Brock's mom - not so much.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:43 PM   #6
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So how did the DEA go from knowing nothing to knowing everything? We know Marie would talk - but they don't really have evidence. At least enough to issue a massive manhunt for him. I feel they left too much off screen.

We don't know if Walt's conversation with Jesse was ever handed over. We also don't know if they saw the Jesse confession tape. It does seem that Skyler isn't talking. So... I'm not sure.

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Old 09-22-2013, 09:45 PM   #7
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Is next week's episode just an hour? A lot to wrap up in a short amount of time, if they decide to wrap up a lot of loose ends.
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Is next week's episode just an hour? A lot to wrap up in a short amount of time, if they decide to wrap up a lot of loose ends.
Hour 15.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:17 PM   #9
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Is next week's episode just an hour? A lot to wrap up in a short amount of time, if they decide to wrap up a lot of loose ends.
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Hour 15.
I noticed in the promo for next week's episode it said Presented by CarMax. Maybe that means limited commercial breaks?
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:19 PM   #10
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Gretchen and Elliott are so going to get a Ricin-flavored gift-basket.
Who?
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:20 PM   #11
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Gretchen and Elliot went on Charlie Rose and inadvertently caused Walt to come out of hiding!
He had placed the call to the DEA before he heard Elliot and Gretchen. Now, did it change what he had planned to do when the cavalry came? Not sure.

Agree, there's a lot to wrap up in 75 minutes, but it seems like he has some additional targets now.

Not as good as last week's episode, but that bar was very high. It's gonna be a long week.

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Old 09-22-2013, 10:23 PM   #12
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Walt's former business partners from before he was a chemistry teacher. They were the ones who Walt said was paying for his cancer treatment at the beginning but it was really coming from meth proceeds.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:25 PM   #13
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This episode was definitely more like the calm before the storm.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:25 PM   #14
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Walt's former business partners from before he was a chemistry teacher. They were the ones who Walt said was paying for his cancer treatment at the beginning but it was really coming from meth proceeds.
Ahh yes.. Duh!
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:27 PM   #15
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He had placed the call to the DEA before he heard Elliot and Gretchen. Now, did it change what he had planned to do when the cavalry came? Not sure.
I think he had full intentions of giving up and turning himself in. But then he saw the interview on TV and a fire was lit inside of him.

I just can't figure out what lit that fire. Was it the snub that he didn't contribute to the company? Or was it the realization that there's blue meth on the streets, which means that Jesse is cooking?

Whichever it was, it changed his mind to take action instead of being taken in.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:37 PM   #16
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Not as good as last week's episode, but that bar was very high. It's gonna be a long week.

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Agree and still the 1:15 flew by.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:38 PM   #17
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I just can't figure out what lit that fire. Was it the snub that he didn't contribute to the company? Or was it the realization that there's blue meth on the streets, which means that Jesse is cooking?
I think it's all of the above. His feelings are hurt because he's not getting credit for his contributions to the company, and because somebody else is cooking "his" meth.

(And by "his feelings are hurt," I mean "his pride is driving him into a homicidal rage, the likes of which can only be assuaged through the generous application of high-caliber, large-magazine weaponry, and ricin.")
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:39 PM   #18
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:41 PM   #19
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I just can't figure out what lit that fire. Was it the snub that he didn't contribute to the company? Or was it the realization that there's blue meth on the streets, which means that Jesse is cooking?
Ego. The same thing that had him, instead of taking their help by going to work for Grey Matter, and taking advantage of their top of the line health care to fund his cancer treatments, saying Eff You to Gretchen and continuing down the path. He could have avoided ALL of it by simply saying yes to Elliott.

It's the same ego that will destroy him.

At the hands of his son.

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Old 09-22-2013, 10:46 PM   #20
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I just can't figure out what lit that fire.
IMO -- Pride and arrogance.

I now blame Walt for the death of Jesse's 2nd GF because he told the Nazi's about her and her son. He can drop dead any time now.

Robert Forster was great - $10K for one hour of his time. Gotta go watch Jackie Brown again.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:50 PM   #21
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Love the episode, especially since Walt's cabin soooo resembles my first place in NH.

How long was he there? Two months? (Long enough for the hair, but still winter)
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:06 PM   #22
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Love the episode, especially since Walt's cabin soooo resembles my first place in NH.

How long was he there? Two months? (Long enough for the hair, but still winter)
According to talking bad! he was there for 3-4 months and is probably leaving a day or two before his 52nd bday and the diner scene.
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:23 PM   #23
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So how did the DEA go from knowing nothing to knowing everything? We know Marie would talk - but they don't really have evidence. At least enough to issue a massive manhunt for him. I feel they left too much off screen.

We don't know if Walt's conversation with Jesse was ever handed over. We also don't know if they saw the Jesse confession tape. It does seem that Skyler isn't talking. So... I'm not sure.
yeah, same question

if they recorded Walt's conversation with Skylar then they have him saying "I'll do to you what I did to Hank"

so they have Walt for suspicion of murder, and domestic violence, but nothing else really

then there's Huell being watched by he DEA agent in the hotel room

true the DEA agent doesn't know anything about Walt, but he knows Huell is involved in a case that Hank and Gomez are investigating

and as soon as he finds out that Hank and Gomez are presumed dead he's going to think Huell knows something about their death

so I imagine Huell was charged with conspiracy and offered a deal and then he told everything he knew

still seems like they shouldn't have much evidence
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:31 PM   #24
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Is next week's episode just an hour? A lot to wrap up in a short amount of time, if they decide to wrap up a lot of loose ends.
My thought. How could there possibly be only one more episode? So much to do!
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:46 PM   #25
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I still think he goes back to free Jessie so that he can do one thing to redeem himself, at least in his own head. He'll then offer his life to Jessie and let the chip fall where they may.
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I still think he goes back to free Jessie so that he can do one thing to redeem himself, at least in his own head. He'll then offer his life to Jessie and let the chip fall where they may.
Yeah, I think this is now a definite possibility... The enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of thing. But he won't let Jesse decide, he'll just let him go his own way.
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Old 09-23-2013, 12:02 AM   #27
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So Walt's obviously not safe for long, and might not even make it back to his cabin.

I assume he scrambles back there, just ahead of the law. Rolls his barrel o' money down the hill, steals a car, buys a gun, loads the gun with ricin bullets, kills everyone he ever knew.
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Old 09-23-2013, 12:11 AM   #28
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DAMN!!!


todd is hard core. and a soft sweetie.


Once Flynn flipped out on the phone, I think Walt knew he was gonna tell people or figured it would be obvious people in the school would hear. So, he dials DEA in ABQ. Then lets the phone drop and just goes to the bar for a drink. What was his plan? Wait for the cops to show up? That changed after he saw Gretchen and Elliot on TV?


At least we got the explanation on the house. Just kids that vandalized it.

I like how the cleaner guy really has an actual vacuum repair business. But am surprised he got as involved as he did with multiple trips to see Walt. Seems like he would stick you in the new place and never show his face again. Yeah, I know. He suggested that's the way it worked. But it was different this time. But still.. I wouldn't expect it to go on so long.

How does Walt get his strength back? He's clearly very sick at this point. But when we saw him in the diner and back in ABQ, I thought he looked better.
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He does it for 50k a month that's why
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He does it for 50k a month that's why
Don't forget about that balloon payment at the end.
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