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Old 09-22-2013, 09:38 PM   #61
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B) I don't give much credence to anyone who would have had the utterly ludicrous opinion that the Beatles were "the beginning of the downfall of western civilization."
Of course not. It started to fall the other week after Miley Cyrus twerked in live TV.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:39 PM   #62
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No, Elvis Presley was the beginning of the downfall of Western civilization.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:39 PM   #63
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I really, really wish they would mute the audience during the In Memoriams.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:40 PM   #64
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A) Don Cheadle didn't write that. He just read the teleprompter.
B) I don't give much credence to anyone who would have had the utterly ludicrous opinion that the Beatles were "the beginning of the downfall of western civilization."
I know he didn't write it. And of course it is a ludicrous opinion, but many people at that time thought rock and roll was evil and the Devil's music. My point being, and maybe I did not say it well, was that of the 73 million viewers, maybe one-third liked what they saw. So that's something like 10% of the population. This was not some national turning point, it's a historical cliche with no basis in fact. Even among people who liked rock and roll, they didn't all like the Beatles and many hated them

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Old 09-22-2013, 09:46 PM   #65
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I know he didn't write it. And of course it is a ludicrous opinion, but many people at that time thought rock and roll was evil and the Devil's music. My point being, and maybe I did not say it well, was that of the 73 million viewers, maybe one-third liked what they saw. So that's something like 10% of the population. This was not some national turning point, it's a historical cliche with no basis in fact. Even among people who liked rock and roll, they didn't all like the Beatles and many hated them
Whether it's myth or not, I'm not sure that makes him an idiot for quoting what a LOT of people believe.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:01 PM   #66
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Oh my gosh, Michael Douglas's acceptance for "Behind the Candelabra" was-- I can't even -- did he really say that?
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That Audi commercial with Claire Danes -- I can't even -- what the heck?
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:04 PM   #68
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that gets a big hand from me
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:08 PM   #69
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Modern Family again? Are a lot of these awards (like Jeff Daniels and this one) because the top choices split votes?
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:09 PM   #70
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Yeah Bitch!!

Breaking Bad..
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:14 PM   #71
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Modern Family again? Are a lot of these awards (like Jeff Daniels and this one) because the top choices split votes?
Yeah,you thought also. It's not the first time that has happened.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:15 PM   #72
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No, Elvis Presley was the beginning of the downfall of Western civilization.
Hmmmm, I thought it started in 1492.
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Old 09-23-2013, 03:49 AM   #73
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I assume Breaking Bad will be eligible again next year, at least for season 5B. I was pulling for Jonathan Banks last night.

Too many "In Memoriams" last night. The kid from Glee gets "equal death billing" to James ***** Gandolfini? Seriously?
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:11 AM   #74
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Didn't see the show, but there's also the people who were not included. Jack Klugman for example.
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:50 AM   #75
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Didn't see the show, but there's also the people who were not included. Jack Klugman for example.
And Larry Hagman!
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And Charles Durning.
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Old 09-23-2013, 07:27 AM   #77
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The still did a montage that included the three listed above; however, one could (should) argue all three were more impactful on TV than Monteith.
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Old 09-23-2013, 07:37 AM   #78
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The still did a montage that included the three listed above; however, one could (should) argue all three were more impactful on TV than Monteith.
Agree, but they have to get Gen Y (or whatever they call self absorbed teens and 20 somethings these days). Think any of them have heard of Jack Klugman or Charles Durning? Of course I never heard of Monteith until they said which character he played on Glee, which I've seen a couple of times.

All in all, I think the Emmys were more boring than usual, and that says something. I'm not an awards show person, but wife was watching and I was doing other things, so it was on. Usually I only watch the Oscars.

I was really glad for MF, and I'm glad broadcast TV can still win something. Was hoping GoT would win best drama, but I knew better. That show is too "out there" to actually win.


To me the best moment was the woman who won supporting actress for Nurse Jackie. I don't think she had ANY idea she was going to win

While I like The Newsroom a WHOLE LOT better than Breaking Bad and a couple of others, Jeff Daniels did not deserve best actor. In fact, I thought he wasn't even as good as last year, and was terrible playing a love interest.

Oh, and the one true robbery was best actress because the best actress this season wasn't even nominated. Tatiana Maslany for Orphan Black. In fact, I think Keri Russell in The Americans was better than any of the ones nominated too.

Oh, and did we need the "song in the middle of the show" or whatever it was called? I went and prepared my lunch for today while that was on.
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:11 AM   #79
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I really didn't like the way they interspersed the eulogies throughout the show. I thought the people who spoke said really nice things. But with the way the show played out reminded me of the Jerry Lewis Telethon, where they would alternate between something fun and entertaining then have some part to pull at your heart strings.
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:59 AM   #80
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Happy to see a win for Breaking Bad. I know most people don't seem to like Anna Gunn or Skyler. But a win for the show is a win for the show.
I wonder if this the first time that someone won an award for a show that is broadcasting AT THE SAME time as the Award Show.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:09 AM   #81
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I wonder if this the first time that someone won an award for a show that is broadcasting AT THE SAME time as the Award Show.
I wondered that too. When Anna Gunn made her acceptance speech I half expected her to say something along the lines of the fans of the show not watching her speech because they were all watching Granite State.

Considering the Sopranos and Mad Men were also Sunday night shows, it probably wasn't the first time it happened.
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I wonder if this the first time that someone won an award for a show that is broadcasting AT THE SAME time as the Award Show.
doubt it. There's been shows on Sunday nights since when, 1947?
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:53 AM   #83
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I missed the start of the show, but since they aired it twice on the West Coast, I just kept watching until they got to the part where I cam in.

Which made the joke at the beginning of the show about how the show was running 24 minutes over twice as funny.
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doubt it. There's been shows on Sunday nights since when, 1947?
Ah, but notice when the Emmys are broadcast. Right before the start of the traditional television season. I would guess that for many many many years there were no competing new shows on the night of the Emmys. Along with that, I would guess that a lot of the cable shows purposefully programmed around the Emmys as well.

So I'm guessing it hasn't happened that often.
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It seems to me that there is something fundamentally wrong when they have all this filler throughout the show, and yet they are rushing the winners off the stage and not even giving them time to finish their acceptance speeches.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:24 AM   #86
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It seems to me that there is something fundamentally wrong when they have all this filler throughout the show, and yet they are rushing the winners off the stage and not even giving them time to finish their acceptance speeches.
I totally agree.

There were a lot of winners I would have enjoyed hearing more from - it seemed like the music rushed them off after less than a minute.

But we had songs that had nothing to do with Emmy night taking up time.

And I would have loved to have heard more from Bob Newhart.

And those tributes were nice, but they really brought the mood down.

And no Jack Klugman???? Oscar (named after one of my favorite TV characters of all time) and I were VERY disappointed...
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Vince Gill said that these Emmy's cover the 2012 Breaking Bad, which was less memorable, so there is still hope for next year (for the actors).
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It seems to me that there is something fundamentally wrong when they have all this filler throughout the show, and yet they are rushing the winners off the stage and not even giving them time to finish their acceptance speeches.
Yes I noticed that too. They did not give them much time at all. I usually don't watch these award shows (but recorded since I now have 6 tuners, yeah Roamio) so was that normal ?

Was it just me or did they zoom in way too much on the pictures for Memoriams ? The top of everyone's heads were cut off.
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Random thoughts:

* Boring broadcast. I love NPH, but he did not knock me out this year. I liked the intro, very cool having past hosts. But I miss the rapier wit of year's past.

* Waaay too much song, dance, and song & dance. What is this, the Tony's? Luckily we watched the entire night from the DVR, so we could ziiiip thru it.

* Also love Sir Elton, but that had zero appeal, and no reason to be. Yeah, I know the Liberace connection, but come on. No reason for this.

* Merrit Wever! Yes! Love her character, love her.

* Yay for Veep! And it's winners.

* Bobby Cannavale? Not the most deserving of that group.

* Jeff Daniels? Again, far more deserving actors.

* While I love Modern Family, it seems more like a safe bet for the Emmy's, versus other shows that were, IMHO, funnier, more deserving, and certainly more innovative. Same with Jim Parsons. Try Louis, for example.

* Breaking Bad was a good call in a tough category. Mad Men was also deserving.
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Vince Gill said that these Emmy's cover the 2012 Breaking Bad, which was less memorable, so there is still hope for next year (for the actors).
I'd say Bryan Cranston is a lock next year. He should win the Emmy for that phone call scene alone.
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