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Old 09-21-2013, 10:26 AM   #61
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They needed the captain to be gay to have a trove of comic premises for Andy Samberg to mine, and not that he's prancing around in drag or leathers, but that the goof thinks he might be.

I'll bet they vowed to maker this gay character have some dignity.
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Yes. A new phenomenon. Never happened before.*

"Gay" characters have been in sitcoms for decades. Now they just identify them.
Billy Crystal just said when he was the gay guy on Soap in the 1970s ABC sent him to be on every talk show possible on the "Billy Crystal is not really gay" tour. Even though everybody knew that Tony Randall wasn't guy the pressure groups tried to boycott "Sidney," because Sidney was gay, again, not openly.

There was the gay cop on The Shield, and as far as I watched it, other than some perp saying they knew him from the clubs, he was treated fairly well.
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:42 AM   #62
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I forgot to snag this one so will schedule the re-airing on Thurs. For some reason, the ads didn't grab me. Thanks to the poster who mentioned the re-airing. The worst thing about 'networks' is that they seldom re-air episodes unless it's rerun season.

I did watch 'Dads' (mostly for the cast) and I didn't think it was that awful (for a sitcom) and am still hanging in with that one.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:35 AM   #63
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That's Lieutenant Dangle, not Andre Braugher. While they haven't (yet) had him parading around in hot pants, the fact that they had to mention he was gay was completely unnecessary. I'm no homophobe, but it seems like every other show on TV has to have at least one gay person in the cast. It's worked great on some shows (Will and Grace and Modern Family), but I think the entire premise is being overdone. It seems like Hollywood is trying to convince us that gays are becoming a majority. It's like they feel that in order for a sitcom to actually be funny they have to throw a gay person into the mix.
Are you sure you watched the show?

The fact that he was gay was absolutely essential to the entire character. That's the reason that a decorated veteran is merely a captain in an out of the way precinct. That's where his drive to make the precinct great comes from. Etc. In fact it's far more characterization that you typically get from a sitcom.

In a past generation it might have been his race that held his career back, but now it's that he's gay. It's not just added in there to meet some kind of checkbox on diversity.
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Old 09-21-2013, 02:38 PM   #64
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Detectives Santiago and Diaz are yummy. That is all.

P.S. I'm a Andre Braugher fan.
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Old 09-21-2013, 09:56 PM   #65
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It's being aired again on Thursday night, after the X Factor.
I checked my Tivo guide, to find E01, and on mine it shows 'Glee' after 'The X Factor' this coming Thursday. Is my guide wrong? All I can find coming up are E02 and E03. Hoping to find the pilot to watch first.
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:54 AM   #66
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I checked my Tivo guide, to find E01, and on mine it shows 'Glee' after 'The X Factor' this coming Thursday. Is my guide wrong? All I can find coming up are E02 and E03. Hoping to find the pilot to watch first.
Check the date on the post you are replying to. The Thursday they are likely referring to is Thursday 9/19.

Looks like the pilot is available for viewing online: http://www.fox.com/brooklyn-nine-nin...19715729/pilot
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:14 AM   #67
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They needed the captain to be gay to have a trove of comic premises for Andy Samberg to mine, and not that he's prancing around in drag or leathers, but that the goof thinks he might be.

I'll bet they vowed to maker this gay character have some dignity.

Billy Crystal just said when he was the gay guy on Soap in the 1970s ABC sent him to be on every talk show possible on the "Billy Crystal is not really gay" tour. Even though everybody knew that Tony Randall wasn't guy the pressure groups tried to boycott "Sidney," because Sidney was gay, again, not openly.

There was the gay cop on The Shield, and as far as I watched it, other than some perp saying they knew him from the clubs, he was treated fairly well.
It was a drama but Michael Cudlitz did a fantastic job as a gay cop on Southland.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:08 AM   #68
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Check the date on the post you are replying to. The Thursday they are likely referring to is Thursday 9/19.

Looks like the pilot is available for viewing online: http://www.fox.com/brooklyn-nine-nin...19715729/pilot
D'oh! Thanks
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:51 AM   #69
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I almost took a pass on this because of Andy Samberg and the pilot was a little lackluster.

Andre Braugher will keep me coming back for at least a few episodes though.
This. Love Andre Braugher
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Old 09-23-2013, 02:50 PM   #70
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I like Samberg and I quite enjoyed it (I am a Parks and Rec fan). It was far from perfect but it was just the pilot. Shows change a lot in their first few eps and that often decides their fate.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:51 PM   #71
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Finally got around to watching this today, so I could catch tomorrow's episode. After watching this, I'm not going to bother. I can't tell if this was supposed to be a comedy or drama, but it failed at both. It wasn't funny nor was it dramatic.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:41 PM   #72
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Finally got around to watching this today, so I could catch tomorrow's episode. After watching this, I'm not going to bother. I can't tell if this was supposed to be a comedy or drama, but it failed at both. It wasn't funny nor was it dramatic.
It made me LOL 2 or 3 times so it's either a comedy or Under The Dome.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:30 AM   #73
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The main thing that will keep me watching for now is that Matt Schur is involved and Parks and Rec is amazeballs and P&R took a while to find its footing.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:42 AM   #74
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Check the date on the post you are replying to. The Thursday they are likely referring to is Thursday 9/19.

Looks like the pilot is available for viewing online: http://www.fox.com/brooklyn-nine-nin...19715729/pilot
I got to the first commercial break on my Kindle Fire and it wouldn't play after that. But I think I get the vibe of the show from that.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:44 AM   #75
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The main thing that will keep me watching for now is that Matt Schur is involved and Parks and Rec is amazeballs and P&R took a while to find its footing.
"amazeballs"?
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Old 09-25-2013, 06:06 AM   #76
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For those who gave up, the second episode (last night) was already a LOT better than the first. IMO.
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Old 09-25-2013, 06:38 AM   #77
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For those who gave up, the second episode (last night) was already a LOT better than the first. IMO.
Actually, I liked the first one better.
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Old 09-25-2013, 06:58 AM   #78
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Actually, I liked the first one better.
I too thought it was a step in the wrong direction.
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I'll split the difference and thought that they were about equal. I'm still liking the show, and I think it will get better when we start to know more about the characters.
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:12 AM   #80
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For those who gave up, the second episode (last night) was already a LOT better than the first. IMO.
I agree.
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Old 09-25-2013, 10:06 AM   #81
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http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=509266

This thread is for the PILOT. Above link to Season One Thread.

And for the record, I was in the mixed feelings camp after the first episode. But I liked the 2nd ep, and will continue to watch.
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