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Old 09-09-2013, 04:09 PM   #181
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This Simpsons episode originally aired in April, but it was repeated last night

Crystal Blue Persuasion


Milhouse had the cupcake later in the episode, too.
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betts4, I think that graphic doesn't understand the power of some of those weapons at 20 meters.
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betts4, I think that graphic doesn't understand the power of some of those weapons at 20 meters.
Well, I didn't create it, just passing it on as an interesting POV. I thought they were dead on - and it looks from that like there was an angle to the shots. :shrug: I may rewatch it tonight.
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:21 PM   #184
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That why I said "That Graphic" and not "you".
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:27 PM   #185
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That why I said "That Graphic" and not "you".
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:34 PM   #186
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betts4, I think that graphic doesn't understand the power of some of those weapons at 20 meters.
The engine is in the exact part of the truck they were standing behind...

(Doesn't help Walt, of course, but IIRC the bullet holes were all seat level and higher, and he did eventually go down to the floor...)
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:34 PM   #187
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What is yet to be revealed is that Jesse is a recent graduate of Todd's best pistol marksman in the world school and will get Walt's revolver and take out Jack's entire crew with 5 shots! LOL

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Well, I didn't create it, just passing it on as an interesting POV. I thought they were dead on - and it looks from that like there was an angle to the shots. :shrug: I may rewatch it tonight.
The guys in the truck had dead aim on two stationary targets. Targets dead. The end....
(at the absolute LEAST one target(Gomez) dead...)
Sedan guys are completely irrelevant...

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Old 09-09-2013, 04:36 PM   #188
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Re-watched the last 20 minutes.

For a moment I detected that Walt expressed concerned about the welfare of his FAMILY --as opposed to HIS family -- after talking to Saul. The way he touched his abdomen, he seemed in pain. I began to think that he might not be a selfish reprobate. However, when he saw the picture of money in a barrel, he raced to it without taking time to ensure the safety of his family. Nothing to Skylar about getting the baby and Jr. to a secure location -- just protecting the money which has no value if they are dead. However, he did seem to care about Hank, Jesse, and Gomez when he called off the Aryans or maybe not. Great writing to leave us unsure about Walt's motives.

Amazing now Walt could race through the streets and highway without a bit of notice from law enforcement. A citizen might have dialed 911 to report a maniacal driver.
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Saw this on FB - it sort of explains why no bullets hit.

"Fire without maneuver is indecisive. Maneuver without fire is fatal"

The AB should've flanked.

Great graphic though, thanks!
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:41 PM   #190
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For the end of the show I still say Jesse has to survive since it's a show about Walt and Jesse (to the last ep at least) and I suspect that Jesse somehow is going to come out ahead. I think it's going to end with something to do with Jack's gang and/or the Czech's, which is somehow disappointing to me, because they are basically new and somewhat undeveloped groups of characters.
I think that Lydia saying, "You really need to fix the potency and color to what our customers expect" is a foreshadowing that she can call in some big sized Czechs.

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I can't see Marie writing "Heisenberg" on the wall. I don't think she's the trasher. My vote is the Nazi gang, though I would think they'd do a lot more damage.
Like there is a shortage of punk kid vandals in the White's neighborhood?

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Why do we think it was anything more than vandals that trashed the house and wrote the name? I'm sure it was all over the news at some point and Heisenberg is a legend of sorts. It could have even been those kids that were skating in the empty pool.
Yep. What's a bit off is when neighbor Carol sees Walt you'd think she'd have been told to call the cops immediately on sight.

This makes me think the community thinks Walt is dead.

"Gomie" said on Talking Bad that he's the only character that hasn't broken bad. Also Walt Jr.

Why, why, why wouldn't Hank haven't called for his team to back them up? I was expecting a helicopter to be tracking Walt and to land right there.

WALT RAN A RED LIGHT! The ABQ cops could have got him!

What about poor Huel? I think this is the first time he got lines to say?
If he's a bodyguard.....I think any assassin that could run could smoke him.
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:48 PM   #191
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Found this on the youtubes.. (no spoilers)

How lives at WW's house?



THE BREAKING BAD HOUSE- Who really LIVES there?
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Yep. What's a bit off is when neighbor Carol sees Walt you'd think she'd have been told to call the cops immediately on sight.
Well, we really don't know what she did after seeing him. She may have run inside and called from a safe spot in her bathroom.
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:54 PM   #193
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Why, why, why wouldn't Hank haven't called for his team to back them up? I was expecting a helicopter to be tracking Walt and to land right there.
Why, why, why don't you understand Hank has been recently operating completely off book, gone rogue, however you like to put it. Agency support is not an option. At least not until the point he found the location of a literal truck load of cash, which would now go a long way towards him being at least somewhat forgiven for his recent transgressions.
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Old 09-09-2013, 05:08 PM   #194
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The engine is in the exact part of the truck they were standing behind...

(Doesn't help Walt, of course, but IIRC the bullet holes were all seat level and higher, and he did eventually go down to the floor...)
And if you watch the early part of the firefight, the back door was untouched for a long itme.
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Old 09-09-2013, 05:24 PM   #195
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And if you watch the early part of the firefight, the back door was untouched for a long itme.
All that may well be accurate but the question of WHY the Aryan's shot at the car when the one person they didn't want to kill was in it. The whole scenario was farcical.
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Old 09-09-2013, 06:16 PM   #196
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Old 09-09-2013, 06:17 PM   #197
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I believe that was a typo, and they meant to write "Walt".
I'd say they just followed Walt.
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I'd say they just followed Walt.
That's what I thought. When someone is driving out in the middle of nowhere, you can hang back a long ways and still be following them. I don't think they needed to do any high-tech tracking.
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Old 09-09-2013, 07:26 PM   #199
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...Yep. What's a bit off is when neighbor Carol sees Walt you'd think she'd have been told to call the cops immediately on sight.

This makes me think the community thinks Walt is dead....
Which is what I hypothesized after EP 9....and I'm sticking to that theory.
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It's funny I was just listening to the Breaking Bad podcast and I didn't realize until now that Huell was played by comedian Lavell Crawford from shows like Last Comic Standing.
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That's what I thought. When someone is driving out in the middle of nowhere, you can hang back a long ways and still be following them. I don't think they needed to do any high-tech tracking.
I looked for hints that they were following and didn't see any. It was also quite a long time after he got out there. So if that's the case it was more bad directing
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I looked for hints that they were following and didn't see any. It was also quite a long time after he got out there. So if that's the case it was more bad directing
They could have been tracking him, but I don't think they had the technology available to do it. The Skymall device didn't allow live tracking, and as far as we know, Hank and Gomie haven't gotten the DEA involved. Not sure how they could have done that on their own, but maybe they did.

Either way, they found him.

If we're talking about implausibilities, I am not sure that the Walt we know would have blindly accepted Jesse's explanation that he found the money by using the GPS tracking history from Walt's rented van. Has Jesse ever been known to be capable of doing anything like that? Not to Walt. Could Jesse, or pretty much anyone, have been able to do that without involving law enforcement? I don't think so. You either need to have an insider at the rental company, or a warrant.
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If we're talking about implausibilities, I am not sure that the Walt we know would have blindly accepted Jesse's explanation that he found the money by using the GPS tracking history from Walt's rented van. Has Jesse ever been known to be capable of doing anything like that? Not to Walt. Could Jesse, or pretty much anyone, have been able to do that without involving law enforcement? I don't think so. You either need to have an insider at the rental company, or a warrant.
What sold the story was the photo of the barrel. Once Walt saw that, it didn't really matter how plausible the story was on close examination...one way or another, Jesse found the money.
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What sold the story was the photo of the barrel. Once Walt saw that, it didn't really matter how plausible the story was on close examination...one way or another, Jesse found the money.
Definitely - the photo sold it. But once again, this is Jesse Pinkman, who Walt thinks is a complete idiot. And it was just a picture of one barrel of money. I can see Huell falling for something like that when the cops pull it on him. Harder to see Walt fall for it when Jesse, who to Walt is dumber than dumb, finds the money through some complicated detective work, allegedly all on his own.
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Definitely - the photo sold it. But once again, this is Jesse Pinkman, who Walt thinks is a complete idiot. And it was just a picture of one barrel of money. I can see Huell falling for something like that when the cops pull it on him. Harder to see Walt fall for it when Jesse, who to Walt is dumber than dumb, finds the money through some complicated detective work, allegedly all on his own.
And yet he indisputably found it. (Or so it seemed.) It wasn't A, then B, then C, then D. It was D. Since A, B, and C lead to D, and we know we're at D, then it doesn't really matter what the odds of A, B, and C are, since, well, D.

That was the brilliance of the plan. Hank learned something he really had no business knowing (that Walt had buried the money out in the desert in Home Depot barrels), and built a chain leading to that knowledge that would force Walt to the actual location.
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I find that, the more I am excited about the episode I just watched, and want to share that excitement ... then I come here and start reading the posts. Some are just as excited as I am and share great observations, but then I become increasingly disappointed to read through all of the critical comments about the storyline and suggestions for "better" story ideas. Ugh!! I used to be able to get through all of that, but it is getting less and less pleasurable to want to add my two bits with the overanalyzing and awful second guessing going on.

Sorry gang, but I want to keep the excitement alive, so I'll just add a tiny observation or two:

When Saul appeared at the car wash and said "Better Call Saul!" to Flynn, and Walter popped in with the baby, it was the last moment of the whole family being together in one scene (Walt, Skyler, Walt Jr. and Molly), though they had no idea in the moment.

Then when Hank called Marie after arresting Walt/Heisenberg, they shared a final sweet moment with "I love you" back & forth and a breath of relief before Hank's doomed "It'll be a while before I see you" (paraphrasing) ... as the Aryans were descending upon them.

Jesse could hardly believe his eyes as he witnessed the takedown of the infallible Mr. White (now "Walt" to him as his full betrayal was unquestionably revealed to Heisenberg), followed quickly by the demons from Hell being unleashed immediately thereafter. What a sickening feeling for Jesse, who could have had his new identity and been safely starting a new life in Alaska, only to be facing his worst nightmare in the desert.

My advice to us true fans of excellence in storytelling: Don't second-guess. Just sit back and enjoy the thrill of the ride. It will all be over before we know it. Let's marvel as the masterpiece unfolds before our eyes.
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LOL, I googled them too and found "Strike Back" but I to have no idea what it has to do with Breaking bad.
They usually kill about 47 bad guys in every Strike Back episode but never get shot themselves.
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They could have been tracking him, but I don't think they had the technology available to do it. The Skymall device didn't allow live tracking, and as far as we know, Hank and Gomie haven't gotten the DEA involved. Not sure how they could have done that on their own, but maybe they did.

Either way, they found him.

If we're talking about implausibilities, I am not sure that the Walt we know would have blindly accepted Jesse's explanation that he found the money by using the GPS tracking history from Walt's rented van. Has Jesse ever been known to be capable of doing anything like that? Not to Walt. Could Jesse, or pretty much anyone, have been able to do that without involving law enforcement? I don't think so. You either need to have an insider at the rental company, or a warrant.
I'm not sure I buy that Walt wouldn't have thought to check that the rental van had GPS in the first place.

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