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Old 10-11-2013, 12:40 PM   #1
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The Big Bang Theory Oct 11, 2013 "The Raiders Minimization"

Seems Amy stirred things up quite a bit inside and outside of the show. So far I think she has a point. Sheldon should just take her right to "Last Crusade".

For me the best line of the night was "Oh my God, you still go left!"
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:50 PM   #2
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For me the best line of the night was "Oh my God, you still go left!"
True, but you could see that one from a mile away.
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:52 PM   #3
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True, but you could see that one from a mile away.
What about the right?
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:27 PM   #4
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Unless it's been written about before, they totally stole the idea that Indiana Jones was inconsequential in RotLA from David Wong's excellent book "This Book is Full of Spiders." In it, the lead character laments the fact that his girlfriend, also named Amy, has a penchant for ruining movies, and cites the exact same anecdote as an example.

The book is a sequel to "John Dies at the End", which is even better. It's a sci-fi/horror/comedy that just works on every level.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:09 PM   #5
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I found it a little hard to believe that none of these characters realized that. The ending is practically the definition of deus ex machina and I thought that when I first saw the movie in the theater as a kid, back when we didn't even know for sure it was going to turn out to be a classic.

At first I found it a bit hard to believe Amy hadn't seen it, but then I have to remind myself that these kids are half my age.
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Are there discussions of this on the web, because I have some thoughts on why he is consequential, and want to see if they have been followed through?

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Old 10-11-2013, 08:54 PM   #7
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Well, feel free to post your thoughts here. I'll admit it had never dawned on me before until I read it in that book, which is why it stuck with me and I immediately remembered it when BBT used it.

My main rebuttal would be that without Indy mucking things up, and being physically present during the unboxing of the Ark, it might have been done somewhere where even after it obliterated the onlooking Nazis, it would have still remained in Germany's hands.

The other moving-ruining anecdote that Wong cites in his book is that in Star Wars they wouldn't have referred to the ship as an "X-wing" because their alphabet was different and they wouldn't have known that the ship resembled an English-alphabet "X". I was very amused by that one as well.
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Old 10-12-2013, 12:15 AM   #8
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Well, feel free to post your thoughts here. I'll admit it had never dawned on me before until I read it in that book, which is why it stuck with me and I immediately remembered it when BBT used it.

My main rebuttal would be that without Indy mucking things up, and being physically present during the unboxing of the Ark, it might have been done somewhere where even after it obliterated the onlooking Nazis, it would have still remained in Germany's hands.

The other moving-ruining anecdote that Wong cites in his book is that in Star Wars they wouldn't have referred to the ship as an "X-wing" because their alphabet was different and they wouldn't have known that the ship resembled an English-alphabet "X". I was very amused by that one as well.

Is that why those funky sideways ones are called B-wings?
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The other moving-ruining anecdote that Wong cites in his book is that in Star Wars they wouldn't have referred to the ship as an "X-wing" because their alphabet was different and they wouldn't have known that the ship resembled an English-alphabet "X". I was very amused by that one as well.
They probably also wouldn't've said "wing" since the word in their language isn't "wing". Presumably, whatever they were calling it was also being translated, along with everything, else for the benefit of the audience. There, fixed that one.
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They probably also wouldn't've said "wing" since the word in their language isn't "wing". Presumably, whatever they were calling it was also being translated, along with everything, else for the benefit of the audience. There, fixed that one.
If their alphabet doesn't have any symbol that looks like anything like an X, naming the vehicle based on the shape the wings make makes no sense whatever the translation of 'wing' is.
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If their alphabet doesn't have any symbol that looks like anything like an X, naming the vehicle based on the shape the wings make makes no sense whatever the translation of 'wing' is.
The name is "X wing" in English. It could be anything in another language. Why assume each utterance is translated individually? We casually translate "s'il vous plait" as "please" when it actually means "if is pleases you." Idioms are fun.
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My main rebuttal would be that without Indy mucking things up, and being physically present during the unboxing of the Ark, it might have been done somewhere where even after it obliterated the onlooking Nazis, it would have still remained in Germany's hands.
I had heard the "Indy is irrelevant to the story" argument before and my first response was the same as Howard's, "The Nazis were digging in the wrong spot" and I got countered in the same way.

I went to a similar argument as yours as that Indy was God's chosen means in order to have the Ark moved to it's new hiding place.
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BTW, I'm shocked that no one has commented on how well Penny cleaned up at the end of the episode.
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BTW, I'm shocked that no one has commented on how well Penny cleaned up at the end of the episode.
I'm shocked no one has posted a screen grab.
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I had heard the "Indy is irrelevant to the story" argument before and my first response was the same as Howard's, "The Nazis were digging in the wrong spot" and I got countered in the same way.

I went to a similar argument as yours as that Indy was God's chosen means in order to have the Ark moved to it's new hiding place.
Area 51 was the new "chosen" place? I wouldn't argue that it's not better than with the Nazis, but I don't know I'd go with it being the best place.
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Yeah, as soon as I saw that outfit I knew:




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Area 51 was the new "chosen" place? I wouldn't argue that it's not better than with the Nazis, but I don't know I'd go with it being the best place.
Raiders didn't specify which government warehouse it was stored in, which contained thousands of identical non-descript crates and I'm sure the paperwork was lost in the government bureaucracy.
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Raiders didn't specify which government warehouse it was stored in, which contained thousands of identical non-descript crates and I'm sure the paperwork was lost in the government bureaucracy.
Except for the fact that the ark was in the Area 51 warehouse in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I'm fine if we want to pretend that movie never existed though.
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Except for the fact that the ark was in the Area 51 warehouse in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I'm fine if we want to pretend that movie never existed though.
Exactly. And that location seems to indicate weapons more than historical research.
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I know it's supposed to be sexy and all, but that look for Penny just doesn't work for me. It just makes her look cheap and skanky.
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I know it's supposed to be sexy and all, but that look for Penny just doesn't work for me. It just makes her look cheap and skanky.
But sober.
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I know it's supposed to be sexy and all, but that look for Penny just doesn't work for me. It just makes her look cheap and skanky.
Yeah, and I don't know if it was just me, but "they" looked really fake. They didn't move or bounce around at all. It's like she has some superficial enhancement just for that shot. They also looked a lot bigger than we've seen in the past. I definitely think there was some "tv magic" going on there to "enhance" the effect.
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Yeah, as soon as I saw that outfit I knew:

She can trap me any day!

So my buddy'd (then at the time soon to be) wife's cousin works as an Executive Producer for BBT and I believe directs or is head writer for every other episode. Anyway, I really wanted to ask my friened to call me in a favor and see if we could see if Kaley Cuoco would be my +1. I never asked him and it would have been a huge longshot (especially clearing it with the bride) but man... just to think of the possibility...
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Old 10-13-2013, 03:18 AM   #25
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I know it's supposed to be sexy and all, but that look for Penny just doesn't work for me. It just makes her look cheap and skanky.
You say that like something is wrong with 'cheap and skanky' !

Actually, I didn't think she looked that good either. I liked her better in her jammies and sleepy eyes so many years ago.
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Except for the fact that the ark was in the Area 51 warehouse in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I'm fine if we want to pretend that movie never existed though.
So's Sheldon.
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Penny was SUPPOSED to look cheap and skanky in that scene!
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Leonard needs to learn to romance a little better, he saw her and went right for his zipper.
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What was the thing that was being used like a centerpiece on Raj's kitchen table?

I am in my mid 40s and Little House and Indiana Jones were a part of my childhood. I do not think they would be favorite's of these character's as they are from a different generation.
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I know it's supposed to be sexy and all, but that look for Penny just doesn't work for me. It just makes her look cheap and skanky.
Overthinking it!
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