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Old Today, 01:11 PM   #1
Chuck_IV
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Moving back to Cable TV. New Setup...

So I am destined to be moving over to Charter TV(from which I already get internet and phone) here in CT, due to large cost savings($125/mo for a least a year with their triple play). I currently have Directv and their costs have just gotten too high for me.

With Directv I currently have 3 HD DVR's and a Genie(4 TVs) which gives me multi-room viewing as well as 11 tuners to record with, that are viewable on all TVs. I know Charter's current DVR are pretty bad and they don't have multi-room viewing either, so I suspect I will be frustrated with them very quickly.

So enter Tivo Roamio. I was going to start with a Roamio Plus first and then add pieces along the way, eventually getting to this...

Roamio Plus on main TV
Roamio Standard on Living Room TV
2 Minis, one in each bedroom.

In thinking of costs, I doubt I will go lifetime on either of the Roamios, so over all, I think this setup would be a little cheaper(minus upfront costs) vs the current costs of 4 Charter DVRs per month...

4 Charter DVR's @ $6.99/mo each = $27.96/mo
DVR Base fee = $10.00/mo
Total = $37.00/mo

Roamio Plus = $14.99/mo
Roamio (Standard) = $12.99/mo
2 Minis = $ 0.00/mo
2 CableCARDS @ $2/mo each = $ 4.00/mo
Total = $31.98/mo

I "think" I am calculating this right, but I am not sure if using a cable card requires me to still have the base "DVR" $10/mo service.

My other questions are...

Should I get the initial Tivo Roamio Plus before or after the Charter TV install, since after may allow me to go to the office and choose my CableCARD and TA vs having an installer show up with a particular brand(I hear Cisco ones may only allow for 4 of the 6 tuners to work)?

Also, I have never been a Tivo subscriber before(I did use the old Tivo Directv receivers back in the day) so would this change any of the costs with Tivo?

Thanks

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Old Today, 01:18 PM   #2
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You definitely want to have the Tivo before the cable installation. The Tivo is considered a customer supplied box so you will save the box fee.

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Old Today, 01:44 PM   #3
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Should I get the initial Tivo Roamio Plus before or after the Charter TV install, since after may allow me to go to the office and choose my CableCARD and TA vs having an installer show up with a particular brand(I hear Cisco ones may only allow for 4 of the 6 tuners to work)?
You don't get to choose your CableCard and Tuning Adapter. The brand of the CC and TA has to be matched to the cable company's headend equipment in your area. And just to put your mind at ease, I have the Cisco CableCard and TA. They have no problem with handling 6 tuners of my Roamio Plus.

Having said that, whether you do a self-install or have the tech do the install is up to you. I prefer to self-install, because generally, the techs are clueless about CableCards and Tuning Adapters and it pains me to see them looking like a dear in headlights.


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Old Today, 02:09 PM   #4
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You didn't mention how you plan to network the tivo's, but if you are using moca you need to factor another $50 for the moca adapter for the basic unit. Not needed if you go ethernet.

And since you had 11 tuners before, you may want to consider another plus for your second box instead of the basic depending on the price difference when you buy. It won't need the $50 adapter if you go moca and you gain the additional storage and 2 more tuners. May be worth considering if the price difference is $150 or so between the plus and basic when you buy. The service cost is the same.

If you are set on getting a basic, they have a great deal on refurbs going on through the summer sale, only $50. And the sale has lifetime discounted to $350 too. That's only a 2 year breakeven compared to the monthly fee.

Good luck.

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Old Today, 02:46 PM   #5
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You definitely want to have the Tivo before the cable installation. The Tivo is considered a customer supplied box so you will save the box fee.
Personal preference here... I prefer to pay rent on the cable company's set top box so that I have that in the house while getting the Tivo working. Its nice to have something to keep my wife happy while I'm on the phone with the cable card center for hours. That way I don't have to respond to, "why did you have to get this Tivo thing and not just go with the cable company's DVR like everyone else???".

So I had signed up for cable TV and had them come install it and get it all working. Then I ordered the Tivo gear and self installed after cable was already working in the house. But again, personal preference!

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Old Today, 04:02 PM   #6
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Just moved to Comcast this w/e at home and Verizon at my office with TIVO.

I got all my equipment in advance and had it all set up, updated, and ready to go when the installers came to both locations.

Everything worked out fine.

At home I moved from a very similar DTV set up as you. 2 HD-DVRs, 1 Genie, 2 extenders. I only went with 1 Roamio Pro and 4 extenders. I did go lifetime as I am in a 2 year contract with Comcast for $115 month (internet included and its for every channel they have). I am thrilled with Tivo so far. We are struggling with the channel #s and getting out of our old habits but 1 box on each TV for all the playback options we need is super nice.

Our only complaints would be loss of certain channels (Beinsport not in HD(arrggghh), FS2 etc) but that is a Comcast issue not a Tivo issue.

I highly recommend getting the equipment first and have it there for install. Be sure to update it first (each box will need updating). Also keep your DTV service going until you are all installed and running. Keeps the wife happy. I would not recommend getting their DVR at all. If you want a box of theirs just get a FREE HD box only. That will allow you to have a "fall back" with them if you ever need it.

Also beware DTV is really screwing me over on the disconnect. My 2 ancient HD DVRs are mine that I bought a long time ago. The Genie and extenders you are forced to rent. They insist the old DVRs are theirs and making me send them back. If I don't I will have to pay them $500 per box. Its BS they are mine I bought them. I also know for a fact that they aren't theirs as every time I had a problem they refused to help me with them unless I bought a service plan through them since I wasn't leasing those boxes! Of course they charged me $6 per month for each "connection". One thing is for sure I don't miss the $46 a month screw you over connection fee from DTV.

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