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Old 08-25-2013, 10:42 PM   #1
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Dexter 8/25/13 "Make Your Own Kind Of Music"

With all this talk about a Breaking Bad spin-off sit-com with Saul, I can't help but think Dexter should get a sit-com spin-off of its own. "The Deb & Hannah Show." Two hot roomies. Who want to kill each other.

Literally.

Things do seem to be coming together, in the sense that fissile material comes together in the core of a nuclear bomb. I sense a body count coming on...
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:58 PM   #2
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Well, so much for my other "obvious" theory. I suppose this one makes the most sense from a "how to turn Dexter and Vogel against each other" point-of-view. But I am still curious about Oliver/Daniel's connection to Yates. Unless of course all psychopaths have the inherent ability to hack into their therapists' computers.

And I guess he wasn't upset with Yates' death so much as he was upset about Vogel connecting with Dexter and Deb in a new way after that. That is why he stopped his killings to get closer to Dexter. He might have seen Vogel eating dinner with Dexter, Hannah, and Zach, and that pushed him over the edge to reveal himself once again.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:17 AM   #3
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Well, so much for my other "obvious" theory. I suppose this one makes the most sense from a "how to turn Dexter and Vogel against each other" point-of-view. But I am still curious about Oliver/Daniel's connection to Yates. Unless of course all psychopaths have the inherent ability to hack into their therapists' computers.

And I guess he wasn't upset with Yates' death so much as he was upset about Vogel connecting with Dexter and Deb in a new way after that. That is why he stopped his killings to get closer to Dexter. He might have seen Vogel eating dinner with Dexter, Hannah, and Zach, and that pushed him over the edge to reveal himself once again.
Why does Oliver/Daniel need to have a connection to Yates, other than using him to trick Dexter and Vogel into thinking that Yates was the brain surgeon. Doing so just gave Oliver/Daniel more time to see what kind of adversary Dexter would be so that he can deal with him. I think Oliver/Daniel wants to kill his mother because she "sent him away" and knows that Dexter will interfere with his revenge. The only reason I think Vogel is still alive is because Oliver/Daniel needs her to provide a distraction/conflict for Dexter and Vogel's delusions of having a family again with her psychopath son just aid Oliver/Daniel in accomplishing this.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:44 AM   #4
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Other than the chuckle at Deb being surprised she was eating dinner prepared by Hannah there was no big surprises this week.

The boyfriend is the killer: yep, that sounds about right.
Killer is in contact with Vogel: also sounds about right.
Killer is actually her son: Didn't see that coming but we had no clues previously, but also sounds about right.

So this episode was just a reveal of what had been hinted at the last few weeks. While good, I'd have preferred they didn't drag it out over the whole episode but had got to Vogel and son at the 20 minute mark and showed us what happened next.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:52 AM   #5
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I agree that it was about the best that could be expected given what had already occurred. Of course, they wrote themselves into a corner with the whole Dexter and Vogel thinking Yates was the brain surgeon thing, so they could not mention it this episode, otherwise it would make them look even dumber than they already do.

I was annoyed that Dexter did not explain to Deb about Oliver. I get that she kept saying she did not want to know too much of Dexter's activities, but just telling her to stay away from Oliver was not a strong enough warning. Dexter could have just told Deb, he is Vogel's son, he is the brain surgeon, and he killed Cassie and Zach. Then Deb would be forewarned as much as possible to protect herself.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:23 AM   #6
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Also, you've got $500k, you can't put Hannah up in an out-of-town hotel for a few days? She HAS to stay at Deb's place to be "safe"?? Sure.
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:08 AM   #7
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:44 AM   #8
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Well, so much for my other "obvious" theory. I suppose this one makes the most sense from a "how to turn Dexter and Vogel against each other" point-of-view. But I am still curious about Oliver/Daniel's connection to Yates. Unless of course all psychopaths have the inherent ability to hack into their therapists' computers.
Oliver has no connection to Yates. It was purely coincidence that Dexter started going through her book, vetting her patients, and found one that had a scar from brain surgery. Oliver is cutting his victims skulls open for an entirely different reason and probably did not even know about Yates' surgery.

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Also, you've got $500k, you can't put Hannah up in an out-of-town hotel for a few days? She HAS to stay at Deb's place to be "safe"?? Sure.
Yes, that was beyond far fetched. But I guess if the point was to have Dexter be able to see Hannah on a regular basis without raising suspicions by him driving to some other town every day, then Dexter needed her somewhere close and somewhere that wouldn't be odd if he visited regularly.

But I agree that it was stupid. They've been apart for months. They could handle being apart for another few days while Dexter ties up all his loose ends.
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Old 08-26-2013, 10:38 AM   #9
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Why does Oliver/Daniel need to have a connection to Yates, other than using him to trick Dexter and Vogel into thinking that Yates was the brain surgeon.
I just found it odd that both of them had hacked into Vogel's computer. Last week I thought that having the Brain Surgeon be someone else was how they were going to explain Yates having access to Vogel's files. But if Yates had no connection to the Brain Surgeon, then we're not only back to Yates being able to hack into Vogel's computer, but Daniel being able to as well. Hence my comment about the seeming inherent ability of psychopaths to hack into their therapists' computers. (Although I guess technically Daniel wasn't a patient.)
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Old 08-26-2013, 11:24 AM   #10
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After seeing more of Vogels son I was thinking it would have been cool if they set this seasons big bad up to be a Dexter clone in town to take care of Deb. Someone that is as capable as Dexter (maybe more so), who finds out about his past time and turns attention towards him. Vogels first try at the code, not just her son who happens to be crazy and kills innocent people to get her attention.

Only 3 episodes left and it finally starts getting tense.
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Old 08-26-2013, 11:37 AM   #11
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I have been watching both Breaking Bad and Dexter as they come up on their season finales, and I have to say with 3 episodes left I don't feel the tension or the urgency on Dexter. I hope they come to a worthy conclusion, and don't give us and ending like The Dark Knight Rises. Sure...it made sense, but was somewhat unsatisfying way to end what had been a very cool story.

I have always assumed Dexter has to get caught or killed for the story to end, because he won't be able to control the dark passenger. But it feels like they want a happy ending.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:38 PM   #12
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Why didn't Hannah go and get her money before she was supposed to leave the first time?
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:47 PM   #13
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Why didn't Hannah go and get her money before she was supposed to leave the first time?
Because that would have been too easy. They needed her to go there when the federal marshall would catch Dexter there, so that they could add some extra drama to the plot.
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Old 08-27-2013, 06:43 AM   #14
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I'm a bit torn over whether I might weep if Kenny Johnson winds up getting blown up again!
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Old 08-27-2013, 07:16 AM   #15
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Wow was this one of the ****tiest episodes ever - characters acting stupid, "surprising" plot twists that aren't. These final episodes better really bring it because the last few have been as entertaining as a CPA seminar.
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Old 08-27-2013, 07:32 AM   #16
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Is there anyone who didn't think that Vogel had her son in the house when Dexter paid a visit? While he can be hiding in the house , I was wondering where he hid his car. Does Vogel's house have a garage?
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:56 AM   #17
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With all this talk about a Breaking Bad spin-off sit-com with Saul, I can't help but think Dexter should get a sit-com spin-off of its own. "The Deb & Hannah Show." Two hot roomies. Who want to kill each other.
One hot, one most defintiely not (IMHO)
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:01 AM   #18
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Seeing Kenny Johnson was the only good thing about this ep. The series is going out with a wimper. It could still play out in any of a number of different endings but the ride getting there has been drawn out and boring. Yeah they are setting up a happy ending, I would be disappointed to see it end that way. Maybe this season ends similar to season 4.
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Is there anyone who didn't think that Vogel had her son in the house when Dexter paid a visit?..
Yeah, that was painfully obvious.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:25 AM   #20
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Why didn't Hannah go and get her money before she was supposed to leave the first time?
I was thinking that too. Lazy writing.
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I'm a bit torn over whether I might weep if Kenny Johnson winds up getting blown up again!
Lemansky was my favorite.. It was so shocking and sad when he died.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:40 AM   #21
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I forget....did Hanah already get her new I.Ds/passports from Dexter or is that what they are waiting on?

Why not send her down first while you deal with everything else?
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Seeing Kenny Johnson was the only good thing about this ep. The series is going out with a wimper. It could still play out in any of a number of different endings but the ride getting there has been drawn out and boring. Yeah they are setting up a happy ending, I would be disappointed to see it end that way. Maybe this season ends similar to season 4.

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Old 08-28-2013, 10:20 AM   #23
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Agree with John on Dexter not giving Deb the whole story on sonny boy. That just didn't play right for me. It's too late now for just telling Deb enough to get her interested in doing the opposite.

Also LMAO that Dexter was the only one who didn't know sonny boy was in the house.

It's definitely heating up, but so many flaws (as have already been noted here). Even with some not-so-great seasons in the can, I'm sad that it is ending. I will be really pissed if they kill Dexter off or have him caught, though, so I'm holding out hope that it will go the other way.
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I do have to say that I loved that scene where the Marshall is talking to Harrison!
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Wouldn't Oliver/Daniel have a British accent since he spent his formative years in England?
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Wouldn't Oliver/Daniel have a British accent since he spent his formative years in England?
Don't watch much American television, do you?


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Don't watch much American television, do you?

Yes (and I'm usually surprised everytime I hear them speak in their native tongue), but those are professional actors. Is Oliver/Daniel an actor?
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Wouldn't Oliver/Daniel have a British accent since he spent his formative years in England?
Well I think I remember her saying he was about 10 when he "died" so who knows where he went after that.
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Is there anyone who didn't think that Vogel had her son in the house when Dexter paid a visit?
I had a 30% suspicion that he would be cutting Deb's or Hannah's skull open as Dexter raced to Vogul's house.

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Why didn't Hannah go and get her money before she was supposed to leave the first time?
Did he know the marshall was onto her at that point? I thought she was going to flee the country and access her husband's vast fortunes before anyone knew what had happened. As soon as the marshall started investigating her, too much chance that the assets would be frozen and/or someone would sting her when she picked up the money.
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