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Old 07-22-2013, 04:18 PM   #91
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I really enjoyed this season. I consider it one of the best dramas I've seen in a while. I'm only sorry I binged watched it. It's going to be a long wait until season 2.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:26 PM   #92
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Following them on Twitter. You get some cute things and funny dialogue. @OITNB
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:27 PM   #93
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When I heard Laura Prepon was in it, I was hoping for some Hot Donna nudity, but so far no good.
Isn't she topless right at the start of episode one?
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:59 PM   #94
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Isn't she topless right at the start of episode one?
Possibly. If so, I missed it. I don't think she has been since then.
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Old 07-23-2013, 02:55 PM   #95
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Isn't she topless right at the start of episode one?
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Possibly. If so, I missed it. I don't think she has been since then.
I don't think she is even in episode 1 is she?
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:07 PM   #96
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sup scott? how u doin man?

love this show imo - definitely a fun watch
I'm good, dude.. how you been?

I have 4 episodes left to watch (been out of town, so i'm waiting until I'm home to watch with the wife). Love this show.
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:15 PM   #97
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I don't think she is even in episode 1 is she?
Here is a (cropped) picture from the 16sec mark of S01E01:
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:28 PM   #98
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:53 PM   #99
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I also feel that it's such a shame this is not getting that much buzz, many people will not watch it because they simply haven't heard of it or ignored it.
Netflix says that Orange Is the New Black had better first-week ratings than any of their previous originals.
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:42 PM   #100
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My thoughts -

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I think Larry was a dick for revealing all those 'stories' on the radio. They should have had a rule - what happens in prison, stays in prison.
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I think they must have had some sort of implicit agreement like that, but Larry is so needy for attention and "success" (i.e. "Nachus") when he was put on the spot on the radio show, he *really* wanted to make a name for himself, so he told all these "disconnected" stories (in the sense that they were just stories to him, not real people). So yeah, he was a dick about it, but he had a lot of pressure on him to disclose at least some of them on the radio without really thinking about the consequences.

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Old 07-23-2013, 09:03 PM   #101
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I really liked this monologue from Piper. I'm putting it in spoiler tags to appease the spoiler nazis, but really, it's not a spoiler.

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I just got to this part. I have to admit, that is pretty much how I feel! Her monologue stated my beliefs in a nice, concise way!
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:11 AM   #102
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Watched the first two last night and enjoyed them - ep 2 better than the first. Looking forward to binge-watching over the next few days!
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:33 AM   #103
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I just got to this part. I have to admit, that is pretty much how I feel! Her monologue stated my beliefs in a nice, concise way!
I have to admit, I expect no less from the entertainment industry.
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Old 07-24-2013, 12:21 PM   #104
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I'm good, dude.. how you been?

I have 4 episodes left to watch (been out of town, so i'm waiting until I'm home to watch with the wife). Love this show.
i'm insane doing a major house remodel...i need to win a poker tourney to pay for it all lol....


u will love last 4 eps, especially the finale.
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:16 AM   #105
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Wow, what an ending.
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:39 AM   #106
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A review of the book from 2010 is in Slate. The reviewer isn't kind to the the real Piper mostly for not being regretful over what happened to her.



http://www.slate.com/articles/double...in_prison.html
If I were going to look at the show as something I'd take meaning away from, I'd criticize the show for the same reason. No remorse from anyone for their crimes. So far I've only seen one character admit that what she did was wrong.
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:45 AM   #107
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Piper's crime was like 10 years before her prison stay, wasn't it. She has probably already made peace with the fact that she was young and dumb back then. She had turned her life around by the time she went to prison. She knows it was wrong, but why rehash something she can't change. She turned herself in. She knows she did the crime and now she's doing the time.

Also, showing remorse might make them look weak to the other prisoners (or they may think it would make them look weak.) In a place where you cannot show weakness or you will be taken advantage of, maybe they hide their remorse and put on a bad-ass image.

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Some of the others don't see what they did as wrong. That is their way of life.

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Crazy meth mouth girl knows that anytime you are disrespected, you have to end that person. She believes she is doing God's work.

Tastee did her time and left. She realized she couldn't make it on the outside, so she did something else to come back.

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Old 07-25-2013, 08:43 AM   #108
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She didn't turn herself in, that was one of the main points.
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:48 AM   #109
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She didn't turn herself in, that was one of the main points.
Not for the crime, but for the time. She surrendered herself at the prison.
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:54 AM   #110
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It's not like she really had a choice. Wouldn't they have come after her and/or issued an arrest warrant if she didn't show up?
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It's not like she really had a choice. Wouldn't they have come after her and/or issued an arrest warrant if she didn't show up?
Correct. She did not have a choice. But my point is, she is 10 years removed from committing the crime, and has changed her ways. She did not continue with a life of crime or go on the run.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:04 AM   #112
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As for Tastee -
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I felt sorry for her. She got totally lost in a system that should have been watching out for her. Placed in some transitional housing and a job at a library would have been a good new start.

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Old 07-25-2013, 12:19 PM   #113
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Only three episodes in and liking it a lot more than expected.
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Old 07-28-2013, 02:35 AM   #114
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Rewatching the final 3. I missed some stuff first time around.
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Old 07-28-2013, 10:03 AM   #115
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I finally started last night. I watched the first 3 eps. I have to say that, had I not heard great things, I might not have gone past ep 01. I thought the first episode was bad in the strangest way - just off kilter and luggish. But 02 was better and 03 was better than 02, so I'm sticking with it.

Technically speaking - I don't know if it was the Netflix app or just something different with my Premiere since the last update, but I went out of the room for just a few minutes after E01 ended and when I came back in to continue on I had a black screen. I couldn't do anything except turn the TV off and then back on and get back into Netflix all over again. But it didn't happen the next two times so it must just toss you out if you don't do anything for a few minutes (I was probably gone 5 minutes).
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:43 AM   #116
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I finished watching last night. I really enjoyed this!

Regarding Healey:

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I don't think Healey's character changed over the course of the series; I think it was just slowly revealed. Neither do I think he had an "anti-lesbian agenda," particularly. Rather, he was a spurned unrequited-lover. He fixates on people who do not love him. We are shown this with his mail-order bride. She obviously is not with him out of love, and he knows this. When Piper enters the prison, he fixates on her, too. He puts her up on a pedestal and sees her as someone else he can save. She is smarter and gentler and more vulnerable than the other prisoners. She needs him. He'll protect her. The more she integrates into the prison, the more she finds her footing, the less she needs him, and so the more hostile he becomes toward her. The tipping point, for him, is reading Larry's article in the Times. She actually has someone waiting for her on the outside who loves her enough to feel like he is imprisoned with her; "One sentence, two prisoners." It's a blow to his heart. It marks the first time he's mean to her - he shows her the article but tosses it in the trash and spills coffee on it; he's a lover spurned. Piper's growing connection with Vauss is yet another blow to his heart. It's not the lesbian aspect of the relationship that so hurts him; it's the fact that Piper has found strength in a relationship with a lover who is not him. The fact that it's a lesbian relationship is just an excuse he uses to mask his jealousy. Piper coming to him to request his permission to marry Larry is almost more than he can take. There's pretty much nothing more hurtful she could have done to him. He bitterly tells her no, and then later when he sees the showdown with Pennsatucky he turns a blind eye because if he can't have Piper, then nobody can.

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Old 07-29-2013, 08:07 AM   #117
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I finished watching last night. I really enjoyed this!

Regarding Healey:

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The tipping point, for him, is reading Larry's article in the Times. She actually has someone waiting for her on the outside who loves her enough to feel like he is imprisoned with her; "One sentence, two prisoners." It's a blow to his heart.
Perfect analysis. I hadn't caught that as the tipping point, but now reading it, it makes sense.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:54 AM   #118
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I enjoyed it, but the season had a lot of ups and downs. I felt the first 4 episodes set up a promise that wasn't fully delivered. Still, certainly glad I watched it.
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Finished this the other night. I really enjoyed it. When they cut at the end of the last episode I was so ready to watch another to see what happened.

And in mentioning the characters and actors I gotta say that I really like Natasha Lyonne in this.
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:40 PM   #120
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I just ran through the episodes in the last week or so. Great show.

Checking most of the actresses IMDB info, most of them haven't been in many television productions which makes their acting even better to me .
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