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Old 09-24-2015, 04:50 PM   #1
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TV shows on Blu-ray...what's happening?

I don't know if it's just coincidence, but lately I'm having bad luck. Agents of SHIELD Season 2 and Agent Carter Season 1 are both Amazon-exclusive, with much less discounting than usual. And iZombie isn't being released on Blu at all!

WHY ARE THESE EVIL MEDIA CONGLOMERATES DESTROYING MY LIFE?

(I'd insert a joke about 1st-world problems, but I just watched the evening news, and even by 1st-world standards this doesn't register.)

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Old 09-24-2015, 04:55 PM   #2
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I wonder if the streaming deals they are signing with Netflix and such require them to not sell disc versions for a set period of time. Maybe TV shows on disc just don't sell well anymore and it isn't worth making them in the first place.

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Old 09-24-2015, 05:01 PM   #3
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A lot of titles are going the "Amazon On Demand" route. One disadvantage is, every show I have seen so far that does this releases only "bare bones" discs - no extra features like audio commentaries or deleted scenes.

At least they're being released. Fox recently announced that there will be no new DVD (or Blu-Ray) season sets of The Simpsons released, in part because you can watch every episode on FXX or SimpsonsWorld.com. In fact, some of the producers and writers have said that the SimpsonsWorld episodes will probably have an option for audio commentaries.

Between video on demand and rights fees for things like music (which killed plans to release Seasons 2 and later of Murphy Brown), there just isn't a market for Blu-Rays any more.

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Old 09-24-2015, 09:09 PM   #4
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Between video on demand and rights fees for things like music (which killed plans to release Seasons 2 and later of Murphy Brown), there just isn't a market for Blu-Rays any more.
But don't current shows ("current" likely meaning in the last 10 years if not more) usually have that already in the contracts?

(OK, one counter example I can think of already - "Cold Case". I know I have AT LEAST a season or two on my dead OLED S3 drive I hope to try to revive some day [along with reviving an OLED S3], largely because of these Cold Case eps that won't be released unmodified!)

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Old 09-25-2015, 08:43 AM   #5
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I would imagine it's cheaper to stream than it is to make DVD/BD. And since more and more people have access to streaming it becomes much more profitable to just release it that way. But three things I hate about this trend...

1) There's too much exclusivity, which means that you have to subscribe to multiple streaming services, which can get pricey

2) The lack of commentary and other special features....part of the fun of these discs is learning more about the shows

3) The inevitability of commercials. I'm sure this is coming at some point, just like cable never had commercials and then they did.

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Old 09-25-2015, 08:46 AM   #6
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Plus blu-ray is easier and higher-quality.

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Plus blu-ray is easier and higher-quality.
Is Blu-ray higher quality than 1080P streaming? I'm assuming most TV shows aren't going to come with DTS 7.1 sound, so I doubt there would be much better quality. I'm not sure it's really much easier either. Certainly it's less convenient. Of course if you don't have a good internet connection, then the quality is indeed better.

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Is Blu-ray higher quality than 1080P streaming? I'm assuming most TV shows aren't going to come with DTS 7.1 sound, so I doubt there would be much better quality. I'm not sure it's really much easier either. Certainly it's less convenient. Of course if you don't have a good internet connection, then the quality is indeed better.
Blu-Ray's average bitrate is 20MB/sec. Streaming is anywhere from 3-8MB/sec depending on the service.

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Blu-Ray's average bitrate is 20MB/sec. Streaming is anywhere from 3-8MB/sec depending on the service.
Ahhhh, ok. I have never noticed the difference really on my 55" TV, but I would imagine if you have a keen eye for it, you'd notice.

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Try watching at 120".

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I would imagine it's cheaper to stream than it is to make DVD/BD. And since more and more people have access to streaming it becomes much more profitable to just release it that way. But three things I hate about this trend...

1) There's too much exclusivity, which means that you have to subscribe to multiple streaming services, which can get pricey

2) The lack of commentary and other special features....part of the fun of these discs is learning more about the shows

3) The inevitability of commercials. I'm sure this is coming at some point, just like cable never had commercials and then they did.
4) You live in an area where all the high speed ISPs have data caps

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Try watching at 120".
I do.

Oh. You mean the screen size, not distance.

My 73" is working and looking fine but Iw as just thinking that I'll prolly need a bigger one in a few years and I wondered if they still make them. (No I haven't searched.) Costco no longer has the 80" Sharp Aquos I was lusting after in the store. They have yech! Vizio now.

Oh, wait! There's still a 90" Sharp AQUOS for $6K!

http://www.costco.com/51-inch-tvs-and-above.html

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Is Blu-ray higher quality than 1080P streaming?
(I admit I basically don't buy TV show DVDs or BluRays.. I'd buy all of the Trek shows if they were the de facto $20/season standard price, and uncut [i.e. no jazzed up special effects unless they were turn-offable].. and will likely eventually buy the full Twilight Zone set, largely for the one season of hour long episodes, most of which I have never seen... and yes, I know they're collectively thought of as the worst episodes.. it's still "new to you" as NBC used to say about reruns..)

But even with all of that.. at least once you've finally loaded the Bluray, starting up each individual episode is likely faster.. and unless you have a SERIOUSLY scratched one, you're likely to see FAR more streaming glitches.

(I too agree about the extras -- and gave up on netflix DVDs years ago mostly because the majority were rental versions with no extras.. I still use Redbox via free codes I got from the Viggle app, but most of those are rental versions too.)

So I'm starting to fall into the streaming crowd (I'm including Comcast On Demand, e.g. for HBO shows, though that's technically not streaming).

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Well, most TV shows are starting to go to a MOD (manufacture on demand) model, which to me basically meant I stopped buying those show's sets. MOD versions are OK, but that's it, it's just the episodes burned to a DVD and that's it.

At that point it's just easier to download the show off a torrent site.

Though some TV series are experimenting with Blu-Rays (NCIS just released a Blu-Ray version of the last season, but that's it).

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Fox recently announced that there will be no new DVD (or Blu-Ray) season sets of The Simpsons released, in part because you can watch every episode on FXX or SimpsonsWorld.com. In fact, some of the producers and writers have said that the SimpsonsWorld episodes will probably have an option for audio commentaries.

Between video on demand and rights fees for things like music (which killed plans to release Seasons 2 and later of Murphy Brown), there just isn't a market for Blu-Rays any more.
Wow that sucks. I'd love to get a complete set of Simpsons Blu-Rays once the series is completed. Maybe it'll still happen, just not individual season sets.

Anyway, I don't do TV series on Blu-Ray much anymore. I understand why they're disappearing.

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