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Old 10-27-2014, 02:24 PM   #1
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Anyone loaded TiVo app on FireTV?

Just wondering if anyone has tried loading the TiVo app on a FireTV to see if it will allow streaming to a TV. I assume even if it loads you'll get an error about HDMI out not being supported but if anyone has one it might be worth a try.

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Old 10-27-2014, 11:31 PM   #2
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I was wondering if this will be a problem with the upcoming Nexus Player device

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Old 10-28-2014, 03:31 PM   #3
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I ordered a FireTV stick but it wont be here until 12/10. If someone doesn't try before then I'll give it a go and report back if it works or not.

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Well I got my FireTV stick and side loaded the TiVo app but it doesn't work. There is no way to navigate the app. Maybe someone with a full size FireTV and a mouse connected could make it work? IDK, but with the regular remote you can't tell what's highlighted. You can randomly move and click, but without some indication of what's selected you're taking shots in the dark. I could never seem to land on the little gear icon to even attempt to setup streaming.

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I found a game controller on Amazon that has a mouse mode. I'm going to try that and see if it works for controlling the TiVo app.

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Old 12-04-2014, 10:53 AM   #6
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Dan,

Ever feel like you are talking to yourself? Actually, I am very interested to see if this works.

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I pot to these threads, even when no one respinds, because it serves as an archive for future users who might need the info.

Should have that controller today, we'll see if it works.

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Old 12-06-2014, 10:36 AM   #8
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Sideloaded to FireTV

I've sideloaded the Tivo android app to my FireTv. Between the FireTV's controller and a Lenovo Multimedia Remote Keyboard N5902 I am able to crudely navigate the App.

I can only get the app to start shows on my Tivo as if I'm using the Tivo remote. I haven't been able to get it to play shows through the FireTV.

For other things I really like the FireTv. It's my favorite streaming box for now.

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It works! With the controller set to mouse mode I can navigate the app and actually stream to the Fire TV stick. So this is essentially a $20 Mini. This is going to come in super handy when I'm on business trips.

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Woah. Could you clarify your steps? I have never sideloaded anything ever, but would to have this capability.

1: Sideload Tivo app (version? Link to instructions?) to Fire TV stick
2: Purchase controller (Amazon link?)
3: Connect controller to Fire TV (is this another side-load? or something it can handle natively?)
4: Enjoy tivo goodness!

Thanks! Excited to try this out.

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Which controller did you use ?

http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-53-0008...=1418150011026

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Ok steps...

First off you need to get a copy of the tablet APK file. I used BlueStacks to download it then grabbed it from there to my PC.

Next you need to setup you Fire TV for side loading by going to Settings and enabling ADB debugging.

Next use this app to side load the APK on the Fire TV stick...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2736774

To launch the app you have to go to the manage apps section in settings and launch it. Although apparently there is a custom UI you can also side load that makes it more accessible.

I used this controller...
http://www.amazon.com/Playpad-Androi.../dp/B0092ZEINO

It pairs just like the Amazon one, but has a switch to chage to mouse mode which brings up the cursor you need to navigate the TiVo app.

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Awesome! Thanks Dan.

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I will try this. Was able to load both the Xfinity TV Go and Tivo App onto the Fire TV Stick. I only tried the phone APK for Tivo, but I'll try the tablet version once I figure out how to get the APK to sideload.

I don't mind paying $15 for a controller, but I'd prefer to just use my iPad or Android Phone as the mouse controller so I don't have to carry around a bulky controller when I travel. Going to check out this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2793823, and possibly use a VNC viewer to control.

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I wonder if you could use this - it has a keyboard and a touchpad...

http://www.rakuten.com/prod/bluetoot...FaZDMgodgCsAiQ




I still believe this is exactly the direction TiVo is going to move for their Roku / Fire TV approach - just a simple update to the mobile app replacing touch navigation with controller navigation.

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I don't mind paying $15 for a controller, but I'd prefer to just use my iPad or Android Phone as the mouse controller so I don't have to carry around a bulky controller when I travel. Going to check out this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2793823, and possibly use a VNC viewer to control.
If you figure out a way to do that let me know. I side loaded the Fire TV control app onto my Fire HD (for some reason it's not in the store) but it doesn't allow mouse type functionality. It only has swipe gestures that emulate pressing the D-pad on the remote.

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I still believe this is exactly the direction TiVo is going to move for their Roku / Fire TV approach - just a simple update to the mobile app replacing touch navigation with controller navigation.
It kinda works now. Each of the controls can be selected via the remote but there isn't an obvious highlight so you can't tell which control has focus. Plus the tablet UI is not all that intuitive with a remote even if there was some sort of highlight. I think the UI needs to be a bit more like the real TiVo.

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It kinda works now. Each of the controls can be selected via the remote but there isn't an obvious highlight so you can't tell which control has focus. Plus the tablet UI is not all that intuitive with a remote even if there was some sort of highlight. I think the UI needs to be a bit more like the real TiVo.
I do wonder how the touchpad would work.. It should be easier and quicker to navigate the menus with a touchpad vs your joystick. Add to that the keyboard and this could be a very useful option.

Can you use this on a hotel network or will you have to add one of the mobile routers to the mix?

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It has it's own UI, unlike a Chromecast, so it should work in a hotel. I believe it has a browser so you should be able to get past any log-in screens the hotel requires.

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I am going to take a huge swag and predict a Roku / Fire app announcement at CES this year! Is that too optimistic?

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Considering it took 2+ years to release the Android app I think that might be a bit optimistic. Although HAXE does have cross platform support, so maybe they can just port the Mini's code over to other platforms easily? IDK. The TiVo software has a lot more then the HAXE UI, so that could be more complex then it sounds.

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Well, my thought is that the streaming app will be based on the Android app.... They couldn't deliver until that was done. Now that the android app has been completed and deployed it is just a simple port of the codeset.

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If you figure out a way to do that let me know. I side loaded the Fire TV control app onto my Fire HD (for some reason it's not in the store) but it doesn't allow mouse type functionality. It only has swipe gestures that emulate pressing the D-pad on the remote.
Looks like it's possible with an app called Wukong. The reviews even mention it working specifically for the Fire Tv Stick, as well as for the Xfinity app as well. I'll update it my experiences once I try it tonight.

BTW, Slingplayer released a Free app for FireTV, for those who also have a Slingbox.

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It works! With the controller set to mouse mode I can navigate the app and actually stream to the Fire TV stick. So this is essentially a $20 Mini. This is going to come in super handy when I'm on business trips.

TiVo on Fire TV stick
A wireless mini! That also doesn't require a 4-6 tuner TiVo. This is a new option for a household that has the two tuner TiVo's and wants to add another TV inexpensively, being as the minis don't work with two tuner units.

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A wireless mini! That also doesn't require a 4-6 tuner TiVo. This is a new option for a household that has the two tuner TiVo's and wants to add another TV inexpensively, being as the minis don't work with two tuner units.
Sort of. They would still need to buy a Stream if wanting to use with 2 or 4 tuner boxes, since this is running the tablet Tivo App, which in turn needs H.264 format video.

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Looks like it's possible with an app called Wukong. The reviews even mention it working specifically for the Fire Tv Stick, as well as for the Xfinity app as well. I'll update it my experiences once I try it tonight.

BTW, Slingplayer released a Free app for FireTV, for those who also have a Slingbox.
I can confirm that the app "Wukong" app works great. A little weird using the mouse, but I can imagine it's similar using a controller.

I tried the Xfinity TV Go and the Tivo (phone) app. Need to figure out how to get the Tablet version.

You can download here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...lient.en&hl=en

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If it's allowed, can someone post a link to the tablet version of the Tivo App? I only have an Android phone, so it runs a different version. I'd like to have one similar to the one in the video posted above by Dan.

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I got it by installing BlueStacks, an Android VM for PC, then downloading the apk from that. I'm not sure if it's legal to post the apk here or not so I don't want to do that.

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Well, my thought is that the streaming app will be based on the Android app.... They couldn't deliver until that was done. Now that the android app has been completed and deployed it is just a simple port of the codeset.
A better way to do it would be to use DLNA CVP-2. Then they could stream to any DLNA capable device and present the UI remotely via HTML5 if the device supported it, or as a simple list of shows if it used an older DLNA spec. The HDHomeRun supports protected DLNA so we know that CableLabs is OK with the technology. (in fact most cable boxes will be required to use it soon, so TiVo may have to do it anyway for the MSO partners)

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Ok steps...

First off you need to get a copy of the tablet APK file. I used BlueStacks to download it then grabbed it from there to my PC.
All I see are these two:



I should be grabbing the one that says "TiVo Tablet (Obsolete)" ??

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